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Army Examines Units Treating Injured Soldiers
A high-ranking general said Monday that the Army wanted to learn more about shortcomings at its Warrior Transition Units, which treat soldiers with physical injuries and severe psychological trauma and have come under criticism from service members and their families.

On a visit to a unit at Fort Carson, Colo., Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli, vice chief of staff of the Army, said that most soldiers in the units had had positive experiences, but that problems would be examined.

The general’s remarks came in response to a New York Times article published last month in which more than a dozen soldiers and health care professionals at Fort Carson described a raft of serious problems in the unit.

“This is definitely uncharted ground,” General Chiarelli said at a news conference. “And W.T.U.’s are really, really new units, and we learn every day. I think you all know the article that was in The Times pointed to some things we want to make sure we are looking at not only here in this W.T.U., but all our W.T.U.’s.”

Soldiers interviewed by The Times described waiting for months to be medically processed out of the Army. Others told of being treated with prescription drugs in lieu of therapy, and described drug addiction in the unit, including heroin abuse. Some said noncommissioned officers dealt with troubled soldiers too harshly.

Army officials have since defended the Warrior Transition program, pointing out that more than 80 percent of soldiers who pass through the units have reported being satisfied with their care. That number is even higher at Fort Carson, Army officials noted, and some soldiers at Monday’s news conference spoke positively about their experience there.

“We are going to try our darnedest to get better than that, but I don’t think we’ll ever get up to 100 percent because of the complexity of the cases we are talking about here,” General Chiarelli said, adding that similar articles could have been written about other transition units around the country.

Over the past week, the Army has moved swiftly to address assertions that transition units — particularly at Fort Carson— have troubles. Brig. Gen. Gary Cheek, head of the Warrior Transition Command, traveled to Fort Carson last week to meet with soldiers, family members and staff members from the unit and returned to the post on Monday.

In particular, Army officials said they were taking a closer look at how to speed the process by which soldiers can leave the transition units and enter the Veterans Affairs health care system, as well as how prescription medication is managed.

Colorado’s senators, Michael Bennet and Mark Udall, both Democrats, have also traveled to Fort Carson recently. Mr. Bennet was there last week, and Mr. Udall joined General Chiarelli on Monday.

Mr. Udall said he planned to ask the Army’s inspector general, who is compiling a report on the Warrior Transition program, to take a fresh look at Fort Carson’s unit and determine whether prescription medicine was given too readily to soldiers.

if most of soldiers who went thru this Warrior Transition Units (WTU) have had positive experience... does this mean Obamacare for civilians is worth it after all? :hmm:

big question!
 
I would think that Obamacare doesn't touch this since Military usually enter the Veterans Affairs health care system.

Yes?
 
The two programs are totally unrelated, so no such conclusion can be made.

the concept is very similar and both goal are same - to nurse them back to health so that they are fit and able to contribute something to society
 
the concept is very similar and both goal are same - to nurse them back to health so that they are fit and able to contribute something to society
Sorry, I don't see any connection.

Obamacare will be a forced healthcare management program. The goal is to take control of the resources and funding of heal care. Where have you read that the Obamacare goal is to "nurse them back to health so that they are fit and able to contribute something to society"? I thought the plan would include people who specifically can't contribute to society, such as permanent disabilities and terminal diseases? Also, isn't it supposed to include health screening and preventive care? That's not "nursing back to health." As far as I know, there is also no requirement to "earn" coverage from Obamacare.

WTU's goal is to take care of those who have served their country. The warriors have earned that support. WTU's are part of the compensation "package" to which military people are entitled as a result of their service.
 
the concept is very similar and both goal are same - to nurse them back to health so that they are fit and able to contribute something to society

I would have to disagree with you there Jiro. The concept is not similiar.

Even veterans, and those in active duty, in my family says it's not the same concept.

WTU's COMPLETELY different set up. It is there, the soldiers deserve it, they contributed to society by doing their duty. They risked their lives for us and country, even when they don't like it, because the Military takes care of their own.

I come from a family with a history of Navy and Army behind it, the military, like it or hate it, really do take care of their own, and they do it knowing they send men and women out to fight.

'Non sibi sed patriae' <------One of the most favorite things I see my little big brother say often.

and 'Hooah!' <-----other little big brother says. (Gonna have to ask him about that spelling.)
 
Sorry, I don't see any connection.

Obamacare will be a forced healthcare management program. The goal is to take control of the resources and funding of heal care. Where have you read that the Obamacare goal is to "nurse them back to health so that they are fit and able to contribute something to society"? I thought the plan would include people who specifically can't contribute to society, such as permanent disabilities and terminal diseases? Also, isn't it supposed to include health screening and preventive care? That's not "nursing back to health." As far as I know, there is also no requirement to "earn" coverage from Obamacare.

WTU's goal is to take care of those who have served their country. The warriors have earned that support. WTU's are part of the compensation "package" to which military people are entitled as a result of their service.

He's comparing military healthcare to socialist healthcare.

The idea behind socialist healthcare is that the quicker the workers get back on their feet, the more productive they will be. The more productive they are, the less drain they are on society and the more tax dollars would be generated.

The only difference is...

You can't guarantee a civilian a job.
 
I would have to disagree with you there Jiro. The concept is not similiar.

Even veterans, and those in active duty, in my family says it's not the same concept.

WTU's COMPLETELY different set up. It is there, the soldiers deserve it, they contributed to society by doing their duty. They risked their lives for us and country, even when they don't like it, because the Military takes care of their own.

I come from a family with a history of Navy and Army behind it, the military, like it or hate it, really do take care of their own, and they do it knowing they send men and women out to fight.

'Non sibi sed patriae' <------One of the most favorite things I see my little big brother say often.
yes - the military take care of their own but we don't take care of our own as a community?

and only military soldiers deserve this kind of service but we civilians don't? We contribute a lot to society too by paying tax, volunteering our service, and supporting our community. We have jobs and soldiers have jobs too. This entire country benefits when we all have jobs to do so don't we deserve this kind of service too?

and 'Hooah!' <-----other little big brother says. (Gonna have to ask him about that spelling.)

army is hooah
navy is hooyah
marines is hoorah (or oorah)
air force is hua
 
Sorry, I don't see any connection.
well then let me elaborate more....

Obamacare will be a forced healthcare management program. The goal is to take control of the resources and funding of heal care.
correction - the government will take control of only public-funded hospitals. As long as we have private insurances and can afford private services, we can still use private service.

Where have you read that the Obamacare goal is to "nurse them back to health so that they are fit and able to contribute something to society"? I thought the plan would include people who specifically can't contribute to society, such as permanent disabilities and terminal diseases? Also, isn't it supposed to include health screening and preventive care? That's not "nursing back to health." As far as I know, there is also no requirement to "earn" coverage from Obamacare.

the pivotal point of Obamacare is preventive medicine, elimination of pre-existing conditions, and modernization of hospital system. This enabled most Americans (especially the uninsured and the poor) to get well soon to get back to work and start contributing to the society.

WTU's goal is to take care of those who have served their country. The warriors have earned that support. WTU's are part of the compensation "package" to which military people are entitled as a result of their service.
the goal of WTU is...

Army Wounded Warriors - About - Warrior Transition Units
In 2007, the Army created 35 warrior transition units (WTUs) at Army installations to fill a gap in support personnel for wounded Soldiers. The WTUs provide critical support to wounded Soldiers— who are expected to require six months of rehabilitative care and the need for complex medical management—and their Families. The units have physicians, nurses, squad leaders, platoon sergeants, and mental health professionals. These leaders are responsible for making sure wounded Soldiers’ needs are met, their care is coordinated, and their Families are taken care of.

At the heart of the WTU system’s success is its “triad of care.” The triad is comprised of a squad leader, nurse case manager, and a primary care physician. The squad leader leads the Soldiers, and the nurse case manager coordinates their care. The primary care physician oversees care, which can be complex, given the multiple issues experienced by some Soldiers. The triad of care creates the familiar environment of a military unit and surrounds the Soldier and Family with comprehensive care and support, all focused on the wounded warrior’s sole mission—to heal. These professionals put the Soldier first, cut through red tape, and mind the details.

Since its inception in 2007, the WTU caseload has doubled from 6,000 to 12,000 in 2008. The WTU system has completely reformed how the Army cares for wounded warriors and continues to update policies and increase staff to meet the needs of Soldiers and their Families.

here's an interesting picture from that same site
wtu.jpg


*it's a pix of quote - "I am a warrior in transition. my job is to heal as I transition back to duty or continue serving the nation as a veteran in my community. this is not a status, but a mission I will succeed in this mission because I am a warrior and I am army strong."

This is great because this means a less burden for us as taxpayers because it is very costly to continue to provide medical care and other services for disabled veterans who could not recover quickly due to poor medical & support program.

Army to Establish 'Warrior Transition Units'
"When we talk about 'holistic' care," said Dr. (Col.) Elspeth Ritchie, Behavioral Health Consultant to the Army Surgeon General, "we talk about the whole person. Holistic care, as the Army doctor describes, is about not only the medical aspects of healing, but the psychological, social, and cognitive aspects in conjunction with the Soldier's career goals and aspirations."

"It's about healing the entire Soldier," Brig. Gen. Tucker said. He said whatever makes a Soldier feel better and heal faster will be considered under the program. For instance, he said that allowing WTU Soldiers to wear the patches and insignia of their original units will make some in the program feel better, and that's been authorized.

The WTU mission is to facilitate the healing and rehabilitation of Soldiers, return them to duty when possible, or to prepare them for a successful life as a veteran in their community.

"We want them to think about life after healing," Brig. Gen. Tucker said.
that is a very similar concept as Obamacare. The faster we get people to feel & heal better... the better it is for whole as a community.

As for people with permanent disability, this is no different from permanently disabled veterans. the military take care of their own. we take care of our own as well. Our current medical situation is getting progressively worse and it is becoming prohibitively expensive. If we can apply WTU for civilians... that means a significant reduction in cost we have to spend for Medicare/Medicaid/SSI/SSDI/etc. I do not want to have too many people to depend on it for life.
 
He's comparing military healthcare to socialist healthcare.
Since he mentioned "Obamacare", then that would also mean he's comparing Obamacare to socialist healthcare! :shock:
 
Since he mentioned "Obamacare", then that would also mean he's comparing Obamacare to socialist healthcare! :shock:

The Netherlands would be considered as socialist, right? Same with Japan? Germany?

People considered those as socialist healthcare, but their hospitals are not really government-ran like Canada or the UK; however the concept of mandatory health insurances is enforced in those countries.
 
Since he mentioned "Obamacare", then that would also mean he's comparing Obamacare to socialist healthcare! :shock:

then what about Medicaid and Medicare? those are not "socialist" healthcare? I hope you're not one of those people who screamed "keep your goddamn government hands off my medicare!"

point is - the countries' socialist healthcare and Obamacare are different but the objective is same.
 
then what about Medicaid and Medicare? those are not "socialist" healthcare? I hope you're not one of those people who screamed "keep your goddamn government hands off my medicare!"

point is - the countries' socialist healthcare and Obamacare are different but the objective is same.
For one thing, smarty pants, I'm not old enough yet for Medicare, and I've never been eligible for Medicaid.

Secondly, the Federal government has forced me to pay into Medicare since about 1967. When the time comes that I'm forced to convert my Tricare insurance to Medicare, I expect to get what I've earned.
 
For one thing, smarty pants, I'm not old enough yet for Medicare, and I've never been eligible for Medicaid.

Secondly, the Federal government has forced me to pay into Medicare since about 1967. When the time comes that I'm forced to convert my Tricare insurance to Medicare, I expect to get what I've earned.

it's about the argument. people are afraid of Obamacare but not medicaid/medicare?

I'm paying for Medicare as well. and now I soon gotta pay for Obamacare too. Obamacare is aimed to improve our current "government" healthcare - just like WTU's purpose to improve military's healthcare system.
 
it's about the argument. people are afraid of Obamacare but not medicaid/medicare?
People ARE afraid of Medicare. I'm afraid of Medicare. But older Americans are stuck with it. That's why they don't want the government to mess with it any worse than they have.

I'm paying for Medicare as well. and now I soon gotta pay for Obamacare too. Obamacare is aimed to improve our current "government" healthcare - just like WTU's purpose to improve military's healthcare system.
No, they're not the same . . . sigh....
 
People ARE afraid of Medicare. I'm afraid of Medicare. But older Americans are stuck with it. That's why they don't want the government to mess with it any worse than they have.


No, they're not the same . . . sigh....

they're certainly not the same thing but the concept remains the same. beside - military's medical system has been around for a very long time and it's still messy. hopefully they get it right with WTU.
 
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