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lol, so much for having an intelligent discussion. It is you who needs to do some growing up.


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The point that 2hot4you has brought up several times in this thread is about 'respect'...and using common courtesy as well. The insight she beholds is well beyong her years and a very mature one at that. That's to be commended as well as it is to admire the sort of trait she upholds which any member here in AD can follow and use--in doing so, it would bring in less and less unneccessary drama (bashing, insulting, etc.,) and flame-wars....





~RR
 
If you don't believe what Jesus said about Himself in His own book, the Bible, then what would convince you to believe other books written about Jesus by third parties who are only humans? If you can't trust the Bible, how can you trust extra-biblical sources?
I do not mean other books written by other humans. I mean other sacred writings, (not counting the Torah) that mention Jesus as a Good Man and a Savoiur. Oh, and the Bible was not written by Jesus.....It was written by His disciples, if I recall correctly. The discplies were not Gods.....they were just plain HUMANS! Also the books of the Bible were picked out by a community of faliable HUMANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I also think that you don't realize that Jesus was saying that if you accept the theory of One God, that you cannot get to That God, except through Him.He did not say anything about Other Gods, or other parts of the puzzle. I do not believe in the Judo- Christian God..........but I do believe in a Higher Being that isn't nessarily the Judeo-Christian God. I mean I wonder if the Name really means anything. Hyper Christians claim that you cannot reach the Father except through being a strict Christian......but what if you are a Good person, and do good works, and are a Christian in everything but Name? Remmy the part in The Last Battle where Emeth meets Aslan and says that he wishes he'd followed Aslan instead of Tash, and Aslan says "But you have! That which is Good cannot be attribuated and done in Tash's Name, just as a man who does a Bad thing, cannot claim it as having been done in My Name!"
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...and there are constant arguments over what the heck God wants. Do you not think that God would have made it clear to EVERYONE what exactly it is that He wants us to do? Yet, we have all these arguments over dancing, headcoverings, race, speaking in tongues, and stuff like that. Do you not think that if what was in the Bible was completely obvious, with no real way to disoprove it there'd be only one way of following God, and there wouldn't be atheists and dissenters out there.

The reason people don't agree about God is the fault of people, not God. People have their own biases and agendas, and they try to fit God's viewpoint into their's. People let their own prejudices, experiences, and feelings shape their interpretations of the Bible. That's the problem. God spoke clearly thru His Word but our human hearts and minds cloud and twist our reception of His Word.
Agreed...........but the interpretrers and translators etc were failable humans.....they weren't divine prophets....they had their OWN biases.......Unless you know the orgional language that the Bible was written in very fluently, then you cannot claim that today's translations are What God Wants.
 
I do not mean other books written by other humans. I mean other sacred writings, (not counting the Torah) that mention Jesus as a Good Man and a Savoiur.
Huh? What "other sacred writings" are written by non-humans? :confused:


Oh, and the Bible was not written by Jesus.....It was written by His disciples, if I recall correctly.
They wrote down words that Jesus spoke to them.


...He did not say anything about Other Gods...
Why should He?


I wonder if the Name really means anything.
Jesus thought so.

Matthew 6
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Matthew 10
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Matthew 18
5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Matthew 19
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Matthew 23
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.


Hyper Christians claim that you cannot reach the Father except through being a strict Christian.....
I don't know what a "hyper" Christian is, and I don't know what a "strict" Christian is, but I know what Jesus said.

Jesus said that no one can enter Heaven without accepting Him as personal Savior.


...but what if you are a Good person, and do good works, and are a Christian in everything but Name?

Romans 3
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Ephesians 2
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.


Remmy the part in The Last Battle where Emeth meets Aslan and says that he wishes he'd followed Aslan instead of Tash, and Aslan says "But you have! That which is Good cannot be attribuated and done in Tash's Name, just as a man who does a Bad thing, cannot claim it as having been done in My Name!"
Remmy, that's not the Bible. It's a good series of books but it's not the Bible.

......Unless you know the orgional language that the Bible was written in very fluently, then you cannot claim that today's translations are What God Wants.
Biblical scholars who did know the original languages made the best translations. Not all translations qualify, and some aren't translations but paraphrases. Also, extra-biblical books don't count as Scripture.
 
Reba, ask yourself these questions: Why were these books chosen? Who really wrote them? What about all the contradictions?
 
There is no contradictions in the Bible. On the other thread about them. They quote different scriptures with comparison and think its contradictions which is not. When we point out the meaning of the acriptures, what's their reaction? Upset and angry and saying, "man, them christians don't get it", the truth is, is the other way around. In some christians, and even me, I will still not look down on you or them, but show love. Jesus, during the night looked over Jerusalem, weep, bec there will be many will be blind where there is many other religions will put a stumbling block to prevent to know the truth, the more victory of Christ, the harder Satan blinding people. Bec Satan comes to steal, destroy and kill, but Jesus comes to give life and full life. We worship one God. Sin steal our good and the law has nothing good about you, so Jesus took the law to Himself and paid our sin debt in full. That's call GRACE. How sweet for living in forgiving state. There is none compare.
 
*off-topic*

Likewise, the very 'words' that came out of the officier's mouth and yours...it may exhibited the freedom of speech, although, at the same time, both of you 'respected' one another--meaning not resorting to 'violence' such as hitting upon one another, then obviously chaos would have been everywhere if that had happened. That's one view of 'respect'...another view of 'respect' is to respect the ideals/opinions of others even if you or anyone else don't believe/agree with it...that's where Alldeaf.com stands on. In turn, they are to respect your own opinions/thoughts likewise. We all can do this without resorting to name-calling, cussing one out, etc., no matter what the topic (and opinions/thoughts of others) is...like I've stated before, it's much easier to refrain from posting if harsh comments is the only thing that will be posted, in other words, skip it (the thread). ;)

Also, whatever the situation you were involved with yesterday, just hope all's well and ok now. ;)




~RR
RR, you are exactly right that Police and I did not lead into any physical fight nor somethings.. there is nothing serious case, They stopped by my place for someone broke in my car to steal my value tools.

and i dont know how to explain it differently so he can understand what I mean. Its ok to disagree and its ok to talk about your disagreements but why go into a religious thread and then start saying 'Fuck Christians'.
2hot4you, I honest with you, I was understood what you mean, but you did not read my post #3 and #11


Somebody comes into the Religious forums and posts what they feel about Christ and that this video explains how they feel. Instead of discussing why people feel the way they do about the video, somebody comes along saying Fuck the christians. It turns into a christian bashing and takes away from the point of the person who posted it.

If you do not believe in god and have nothing to contribute, why post in that thread? If you want to make your argument about why you dont believe and think that christians are full of crap, then make a thread about it and discuss it instead of trashing threads where other people say they believe in god..
2hot4you, Yes, Sorry I believe that christians are full of crap and even confusion/ corruption..

I am not here to offensive , believe that christians are offically schizophrenics, they need help and send them to the specified psychological place.


lol, so much for having an intelligent discussion. It is you who needs to do some growing up.

Yes I like to having an logical intelligace conversation also. However christians suddenly jump the wrong conclusion with their judgments which I had bad taste, that where they got problem...




THEREFOR, My reason I have the right to bash them by words something came out of my mouth through heart and mind, because christians always judge others, tell them go hell where you will be, as repeat quotes.. I tired of christian are craps. I tell you I dont believe in hell fire neither in heaven mansion PERIOD..


anyway,

BTW, You are teengirl, why you are in this thread "warning video rated R", I believe you can't read "rated R".. do you know what rated "R" meaning to you? if you acknoweldged, then shouldn't come here. Unless you ask your parent s permission that you access this rated R.. that why I am LOST interest to having discuss topic with teens/ underages..

Your sn should change 2hot4you to 2HOT4TEEN.
 
2hot4you, I honest with you, I was understood what you mean, but you did not read my post #3 and #11


2hot4you, Yes, Sorry I believe that christians are full of crap and even confusion/ corruption..

I am not here to offensive , believe that christians are offically schizophrenics, they need help and send them to the specified psychological place.

Yes I like to having an logical intelligace conversation also. However christians suddenly jump the wrong conclusion with their judgments which I had bad taste, that where they got problem...

THEREFOR, My reason I have the right to bash them by words something came out of my mouth through heart and mind, because christians always judge others, tell them go hell where you will be, as repeat quotes.. I tired of christian are craps. I tell you I dont believe in hell fire neither in heaven mansion PERIOD..


anyway,

BTW, You are teengirl, why you are in this thread "warning video rated R", I believe you can't read "rated R".. do you know what rated "R" meaning to you? if you acknoweldged, then shouldn't come here. Unless you ask your parent s permission that you access this rated R.. that why I am LOST interest to having discuss topic with teens/ underages..

Your sn should change 2hot4you to 2HOT4TEEN.

You are telling me that you could not have a discussion solely based on my age? You say christians pass judgement when you are doing exactly the same thing. why criticize it if you cannot even follow the rule yourself. And you apparently missed my point entirely. I never said you could not believe in the things you do. I respect you for stating your opinion no matter what they are. I just dont understand point of going trashing everyones threads if they say they like something and you disagree with it. if you disagree with it, then start a thread about why christians are so bad instead of trashing those that believe different than you. by you doing that you are taking away their freedom of speech. does freedom of speech only apply to you.

i forgot we are only allowed to speak if we believe in the same thing you do. and if you are concerned for my age, why dont you grow up just a little. you are being outwitted by a 14 year old.
 
Exactly...But what everyone don't realize is that "Freedom of Speech" also has limits. That's not just here, but anywhere to where it causes problems, disrespect, even causing death.



You are telling me that you could not have a discussion solely based on my age? You say christians pass judgement when you are doing exactly the same thing. why criticize it if you cannot even follow the rule yourself. And you apparently missed my point entirely. I never said you could not believe in the things you do. I respect you for stating your opinion no matter what they are. I just dont understand point of going trashing everyones threads if they say they like something and you disagree with it. if you disagree with it, then start a thread about why christians are so bad instead of trashing those that believe different than you. by you doing that you are taking away their freedom of speech. does freedom of speech only apply to you.

i forgot we are only allowed to speak if we believe in the same thing you do. and if you are concerned for my age, why dont you grow up just a little. you are being outwitted by a 14 year old.
 
2hot4you's quote: You are telling me that you could not have a discussion solely based on my age?

Yeah, I have not to having a discuss about any topic with teens in events..

2hot4you's quote: You say christians pass judgement when you are doing exactly the same thing.

What? excuse me, Are you saying that I am pass judgement on christians? If I did, can you prove me that I am one of them judgement on peoples?

Like before thats exactly why I said, I don't know what heck are you talking about it, therefore you are really bark, bark, bark the wrong tree!


2hot4you's quote: why criticize it if you cannot even follow the rule yourself. And you apparently missed my point entirely.

What did I critize on christian ? I missed your point of what? ::SCRATCH HEAD:: what are you talking about???

2hot4you's quote: I never said you could not believe in the things you do. I respect you for stating your opinion no matter what they are. I just dont understand point of going trashing everyones threads if they say they like something and you disagree with it. if you disagree with it, then start a thread about why christians are so bad instead of trashing those that believe different than you.


I dont have problem with their disagree with me or other .. I NEVER have any upset someone who don't agree with my quote on and on.. I just try to make my point on their some quotes what I agree to disagree and speak it out.. I never ask christian must believe the belief what I believed in.. I encourage them to give some respect someone who have different belief than them. they harashly judgement people who follow their belief that are not same with christians belief.. Yeah, sorry, again I believe that christians are full of craps peroid..


2hot4you's quote: by you doing that you are taking away their freedom of speech. does freedom of speech only apply to you.

I did not take away their freedom of speech, again what are you talking about?

2hot4you's quote: i forgot we are only allowed to speak if we believe in the same thing you do. and if you are concerned for my age, why dont you grow up just a little. you are being outwitted by a 14 year old.


Whoa, you are telling me, I need just a litte grow up!? I noticed the way you tell somebody, " need to grow up!" that your post somewhere in forums.

I never have problem with teens, Because I have my sweet twelve years old son will be-soon-teen in next year. One thing I never allow my son access any rated "R" , "xXx" on internet without permission /or with permission. Even I forbid my son can talk to older randoms on internet anytime, especially My son can talk one of members by my family like uncleor grandparent on internet.. I feel that way you disrespect your own parent that whatever you access rated "R" or "xXx" on internet in their house... that is disgust and disrespect me big time..

I never thought that I expect or want someone believe in same thing I do like that.. I knew somebody and I would be different eachothers on our percpestive of view. I have to learning how to be respect their belief what they believe in.


Therefore, I dont know what are you talking about that and even you actually bark, bark the wrong tree that once again and forever..

You need to go to find somewhere forums for teens where you throwing fit into yourself with same group of age.. Good Luck...
 
2hot4you's quote: You are telling me that you could not have a discussion solely based on my age?

Yeah, I have not to having a discuss about any topic with teens in events..

2hot4you's quote: You say christians pass judgement when you are doing exactly the same thing.

What? excuse me, Are you saying that I am pass judgement on christians? If I did, can you prove me that I am one of them judgement on peoples?

Like before thats exactly why I said, I don't know what heck are you talking about it, therefore you are really bark, bark, bark the wrong tree!


2hot4you's quote: why criticize it if you cannot even follow the rule yourself. And you apparently missed my point entirely.

What did I critize on christian ? I missed your point of what? ::SCRATCH HEAD:: what are you talking about???

2hot4you's quote: I never said you could not believe in the things you do. I respect you for stating your opinion no matter what they are. I just dont understand point of going trashing everyones threads if they say they like something and you disagree with it. if you disagree with it, then start a thread about why christians are so bad instead of trashing those that believe different than you.


I dont have problem with their disagree with me or other .. I NEVER have any upset someone who don't agree with my quote on and on.. I just try to make my point on their some quotes what I agree to disagree and speak it out.. I never ask christian must believe the belief what I believed in.. I encourage them to give some respect someone who have different belief than them. they harashly judgement people who follow their belief that are not same with christians belief.. Yeah, sorry, again I believe that christians are full of craps peroid..


2hot4you's quote: by you doing that you are taking away their freedom of speech. does freedom of speech only apply to you.

I did not take away their freedom of speech, again what are you talking about?

2hot4you's quote: i forgot we are only allowed to speak if we believe in the same thing you do. and if you are concerned for my age, why dont you grow up just a little. you are being outwitted by a 14 year old.


Whoa, you are telling me, I need just a litte grow up!? I noticed the way you tell somebody, " need to grow up!" that your post somewhere in forums.

I never have problem with teens, Because I have my sweet twelve years old son will be-soon-teen in next year. One thing I never allow my son access any rated "R" , "xXx" on internet without permission /or with permission. Even I forbid my son can talk to older randoms on internet anytime, especially My son can talk one of members by my family like uncleor grandparent on internet.. I feel that way you disrespect your own parent that whatever you access rated "R" or "xXx" on internet in their house... that is disgust and disrespect me big time..

I never thought that I expect or want someone believe in same thing I do like that.. I knew somebody and I would be different eachothers on our percpestive of view. I have to learning how to be respect their belief what they believe in.


Therefore, I dont know what are you talking about that and even you actually bark, bark the wrong tree that once again and forever..

You need to go to find somewhere forums for teens where you throwing fit into yourself with same group of age.. Good Luck...

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2hot4you's quote: You are telling me that you could not have a discussion solely based on my age?

Yeah, I have not to having a discuss about any topic with teens in events..

2hot4you's quote: You say christians pass judgement when you are doing exactly the same thing.

What? excuse me, Are you saying that I am pass judgement on christians? If I did, can you prove me that I am one of them judgement on peoples?

Like before thats exactly why I said, I don't know what heck are you talking about it, therefore you are really bark, bark, bark the wrong tree!


2hot4you's quote: why criticize it if you cannot even follow the rule yourself. And you apparently missed my point entirely.

What did I critize on christian ? I missed your point of what? ::SCRATCH HEAD:: what are you talking about???

2hot4you's quote: I never said you could not believe in the things you do. I respect you for stating your opinion no matter what they are. I just dont understand point of going trashing everyones threads if they say they like something and you disagree with it. if you disagree with it, then start a thread about why christians are so bad instead of trashing those that believe different than you.


I dont have problem with their disagree with me or other .. I NEVER have any upset someone who don't agree with my quote on and on.. I just try to make my point on their some quotes what I agree to disagree and speak it out.. I never ask christian must believe the belief what I believed in.. I encourage them to give some respect someone who have different belief than them. they harashly judgement people who follow their belief that are not same with christians belief.. Yeah, sorry, again I believe that christians are full of craps peroid..


2hot4you's quote: by you doing that you are taking away their freedom of speech. does freedom of speech only apply to you.

I did not take away their freedom of speech, again what are you talking about?

2hot4you's quote: i forgot we are only allowed to speak if we believe in the same thing you do. and if you are concerned for my age, why dont you grow up just a little. you are being outwitted by a 14 year old.


Whoa, you are telling me, I need just a litte grow up!? I noticed the way you tell somebody, " need to grow up!" that your post somewhere in forums.

I never have problem with teens, Because I have my sweet twelve years old son will be-soon-teen in next year. One thing I never allow my son access any rated "R" , "xXx" on internet without permission /or with permission. Even I forbid my son can talk to older randoms on internet anytime, especially My son can talk one of members by my family like uncleor grandparent on internet.. I feel that way you disrespect your own parent that whatever you access rated "R" or "xXx" on internet in their house... that is disgust and disrespect me big time..

I never thought that I expect or want someone believe in same thing I do like that.. I knew somebody and I would be different eachothers on our percpestive of view. I have to learning how to be respect their belief what they believe in.


Therefore, I dont know what are you talking about that and even you actually bark, bark the wrong tree that once again and forever..

You need to go to find somewhere forums for teens where you throwing fit into yourself with same group of age.. Good Luck...

my point exactly. i did not say you passed judgement on christians. i was referring to me. you are saying it is impossible for you to have an intelligent conversation with somebody based solely on their age. that is passing judgement on somebody.

about freedom of speech, someone posted the movie. you came in and said 'Fuck Christians' and go on this big tantrum about how bad christians are. you call that being respectful of others. only you are allowed to think a certain way. if somebody thinks differently than you, you go into their thread and start with the fuck this and fuck that and name calling. you do not see anything wrong with that? if you dont then there isnt much anyone can do to get you to show some respect to other people.

Id chat more but I think i have a barney chat room to go participate in. You should join me, you may actually learn something from us 'kids'.
 
Hi 2hot4you,

I am not here to seek against you nor turn you down for any reason.. I acknoweldge that you are very intelligace, friendly and pre-mature in some way. I always tell teens on aim or whatever, I am lost interest to talk with teens. But they said, they want to have friend with me, I tell them, I am not interest to have new friend with any teens period.. then they left me alone.. I prefer talk someone who is 18 years old up.. sorry!



2hot4you's quote: my point exactly. i did not say you passed judgement on christians. i was referring to me. you are saying it is impossible for you to have an intelligent conversation with somebody based solely on their age. that is passing judgement on somebody.


Yes, I like to have the logical intelligace conversation with someone without jump on me in their wrong conclusion. Nevertheless they are still jump on them in their wrong consclusion. I feel like that someone quickly jump in gun and shoot me without sit down and talk consersavtion. christains acts alike muslims's way... Like couple of which one who have chance to grab one gun off the table and kill in marriage relationship without discuss issues....



2hot4you's quote: about freedom of speech, someone posted the movie. you came in and said 'Fuck Christians' and go on this big tantrum about how bad christians are. you call that being respectful of others. only you are allowed to think a certain way. if somebody thinks differently than you, you go into their thread and start with the fuck this and fuck that and name calling. you do not see anything wrong with that? if you dont then there isnt much anyone can do to get you to show some respect to other people.


I really feel that way you have lack of understanding my point perscptive on this..

For example, you work with childern in classroom, one happen that day, some guys picked on one person. little child had lose his good temper, he started to curse on some guys, saying leave person alone and give him some respect for who he is. he trying protect person from someguys pick on and judge on..

mmmm......

My point is, what if I posted the movie about white put black slave in chain from head to feet, then white beated him with heavy weapons. white racist come in and saying 'fuck N!#@ers' and nasty about how bad Blacks are...on and on.. I am not agree that way white ruthless created white jesus, they beated white man while he was in chain instead of black man was suffered by hands white wickes. they wanted me look at white beated white jesus and erase the memories off head about my slaverys history.. my slavery is still MOST POWERFUL important history in my entirely life!


2hot4you's quote: Id chat more but I think i have a barney chat room to go participate in. You should join me, you may actually learn something from us 'kids'.

Thats beautiful perfect that barney chatroom where you are fit in.. that chatroom is matched your age of groups... :)
 
You are telling me that you could not have a discussion solely based on my age? You say christians pass judgement when you are doing exactly the same thing. why criticize it if you cannot even follow the rule yourself. And you apparently missed my point entirely. I never said you could not believe in the things you do. I respect you for stating your opinion no matter what they are. I just dont understand point of going trashing everyones threads if they say they like something and you disagree with it. if you disagree with it, then start a thread about why christians are so bad instead of trashing those that believe different than you. by you doing that you are taking away their freedom of speech. does freedom of speech only apply to you.

i forgot we are only allowed to speak if we believe in the same thing you do. and if you are concerned for my age, why dont you grow up just a little. you are being outwitted by a 14 year old.



YOure 14? Geesh. well said.
 
Mod Note:


Ok, let's step back a little bit...thread's veering off-topic--

Please 'respect' one another, if that's not possible, then it's best not to post at all.

Also, no matter the 'age' of any member here in AD...giving consideration and respect is the 'thing' to do, once again, if a member has a problem with that, it would be adivsed not to post in the open Forum, but either to consult one of the moderators or don't reply at all.

Obviously, a member who is young here is very well matured and please give in consideration for that. Thank you!!



~RR
 
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