Vt. Court Eyes Value of Love Of Man's Best Friend

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Woman Quits Job To Pursue Animal Rights Cause

MONTPELIER, Vt. -- Vermont's highest court is being asked to decide what a dog's love is worth.

The state Supreme Court on Thursday began hearing a case that started in July 2003, when Denis and Sarah Scheele, who were visiting relatives, let their mixed-breed dog wander into Lewis Dustin's yard and he fatally shot it.

Now the Scheeles, of Annapolis, Md., are asking the court to carve out a new legal doctrine that a dog's owners can sue for emotional distress and loss of companionship, just like parents can when they lose children.

"It's so important for people to really recognize the relationship between the families and their companion animals," said Sarah Scheele, 58, who attended Thursday's court hearing.

The Scheeles' attorney argued that a family dog is worth more than a piece of property, saying dogs "love you back."

Under the current law, losing a dog is "treated the same way as the loss of an end table," David Putter said after the hearing.

"That's not what the relationship between humans and dogs is anymore. They're a member of the family and when they're lost you can't just go out to the local store and buy a new one. That doesn't fix it."

Dustin's lawyer, David Blythe, questioned how the court could draw a distinction between a dog and other personal property.

"Can you effectively create a special rule just for dogs? Why not cats? Why not horses?" Blythe said.

The court isn't expected to make a ruling before spring.

Blythe has said Dustin never intended to kill the Scheeles' dog, Shadow, and "has always regretted that it happened." He said Dustin fired an air pellet rifle at the dog in hopes of scaring it off the lawn of his home in Northfield, a community of about 6,000 residents just south of Montpelier in the heart of the state's Green Mountains.

The shot Dustin fired penetrated the dog's chest and severed an aorta, and the dog died on the way to a veterinarian's office.

Dustin, 76, has said he was aiming at the dog's rear end. He did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment Wednesday.

He pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of animal cruelty and was given a year probation. He also was ordered to perform 100 hours of community service and pay $4,000 in restitution to the Scheeles.

But the Scheeles weren't done. Sarah Scheele gave up her work as a meeting planner and has devoted her time since the dog's death to advocating for animal welfare and caring for the six special-needs dogs -- most of them abused in the past -- the couple has adopted in recent years. Denis Scheele, 50, continues to work as a plumber.

The Scheeles filed a civil suit against Dustin, pressing their claim that Shadow was more than a piece of property and that they could not be compensated just with reimbursement of what they paid to adopt him from an animal shelter, the veterinary bill that resulted from the shooting and the cost of his cremation.

Historically, laws across the country have limited sharply the ability of plaintiffs to collect damages for emotional loss. A parent can sue for emotional damage from the loss of a child, but a grandparent cannot for the loss of a grandchild under Vermont law, Blythe said.

"If the court carved out this exception in the common law, it would put pet owners in a position that grandparents are not in terms of recovering emotional-distress damages," Blythe said.

The court earlier this year ruled against a plaintiff seeking to collect for emotional distress when a cat's death resulted from a veterinarian's medication error.

One of the Scheeles' lawyers, Heidi Groff, said this case is different because Dustin acted with intent and malice when he shot Shadow.

"All previous (Vermont) cases that have presented this issue have involved negligence," Groff said, "and we have something that we think is a great deal more serious than that."

The Scheeles are particularly devoted pet owners. They feed their dogs human food, brush the dogs' teeth and dress them in raincoats when it's wet outside.

On a Web site devoted to Shadow's memory, they wrote, "Every day without you running and playing and cuddling with us is more difficult than the day before. The loss of your presence in our every moment is unbelievably painful. Not a moment passes that you are not in our thoughts, our hearts and our prayers."

Vt. Court Eyes Value Of Love Of Man's Best Friend - Family News Story - WJXT Jacksonville
 
Morons.

That's why you have CONTROLLED and CONTAINED pets at ALL times. I hope this doesn't set a bad precedent for those that are just trying to get rid of feral animals.
 
Morons.

That's why you have CONTROLLED and CONTAINED pets at ALL times. I hope this doesn't set a bad precedent for those that are just trying to get rid of feral animals.

This is an example of a controlled, contained pet that got killed.

A friend of mine was in a car accident. A drunk driver hit him heads-on at 65mph, my friend was doing 65mph as well.

His hearing dog died in my friends arm.

He's still grieving.

Nice of you going out of your way to call my friend a moron.
 
This is an example of a controlled, contained pet that got killed.

A friend of mine was in a car accident. A drunk driver hit him heads-on at 65mph, my friend was doing 65mph as well.

His hearing dog died in my friends arm.

He's still grieving.

Nice of you going out of your way to call my friend a moron.

Did you read the article? The owners did not have control over their animal. It wandered onto someones property and got shot at as indicated below.

The state Supreme Court on Thursday began hearing a case that started in July 2003, when Denis and Sarah Scheele, who were visiting relatives, let their mixed-breed dog wander into Lewis Dustin's yard and he fatally shot it.

Your friend''s story is not even close to as this article.
 
Did you read the article? The owners did not have control over their animal. It wandered onto someones property and got shot at as indicated below.



Your friend''s story is not even close to as this article.

I read that.

Still I wish the drunk driver was responsible for killing the dog.
 
Yeah... misread your post.

In case of drunk driving or kicking someone's dog randomly on the streets, which did happen to my family's dog, should be held responsible.
 
Does the law say you can shoot ANY animal that happenstances to wander into ur yard? Cats, turtles, whatever!

The couple was visiting relatives, and were with the dog, he was just "sniffing" around and wandered into the neighbor's yard....that gives the man a right to "shoot" the dog? It just happened 1 time....not repeatedly!

Gives me the impression that this man would even shoot a child or anyone who just happened to cross his yard!

The dog was a loving pet, not a vicious stray off the street. But even if it was, he had no right to shoot the dog. Just call animal control and let them take care of it.

I don't blame the couple at all!
 
I agree with souggy to a certain degree. Pets can not take care of itself. The owners are always responsible of their pet.

Pets could threaten their children if they are loose. My husband was bitten in the face by a dog when he was a toddler ... and I had dogs chasing me before the owner called them off. Pets are like toddlers, if the owner don't watch them, they will get hurt eventually. The only difference is that toddlers don't rip people's flesh off like dogs. Toddlers don't have strong, muscular jaws like dogs. And it is silly to put toddlers in the same level as dogs anyway.

BUT if people shot other people dogs while they are on the leash (on a walk) or their owner's property, then they should be in big trouble for it.
 
The problem is this...

“The right to swing my fist ends where the other man’s nose begins.” – Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

The old guy was in the wrong, but he is sorta in the right since people are allowed to shoot at feral animals I believe. However it does not give him the licence to be stupid.

On the other hand, the owners shouldn't even bother trying to sue the guy in question since they lost control of the animal. Why do they think it's okay to let their dog wander off? So both sides are not being accountable for their own actions.
 
because the man did this, killed someone beloved dog, the people in his community should shun him because he was acting out of cold-hearted and not thinking this could be someone's pet.
 
Seems to me most places have laws against discharging fire arms in residential areas. "In his yard" would seem to indicate this was a residential area.
 
Our pets should NEVER be elevated to our level when it comes to social rights. EVER. We have laws to protect animals from abuse and cruelty and that's as far as we can.

While it is healthy to have relationships with animals, just imagine how ridiculous it would be if we apply "human" to any kind of animals we form relationships with, including a damn ugly roach?
 
Our pets should NEVER be elevated to our level when it comes to social rights. EVER. We have laws to protect animals from abuse and cruelty and that's as far as we can.

While it is healthy to have relationships with animals, just imagine how ridiculous it would be if we apply "human" to any kind of animals we form relationships with, including a damn ugly roach?

This is highly cultural, and deep at the heart of the animal rights movement.

Hierarchical thinking places humans at the top of the Earth's list of species and all other creatures below with cockroaches somewhere at the bottom of disgusting. This pretty much describes our system, and it is this system which allows its adherents to subscribe to much of their cruelty as "justified."

However if you belong to a culture that believes in transmigration of souls, the line between you and a cockroach thins considerably as at some time you were one in your spiritual progress. Being cruel to something that might be your beloved Aunt Hilda puts a different light on things.

If on the other hand you belong to a culture that believes women have no souls, or even one that believes they are creations of the devil to lead men astray, then cruelty to women not only becomes easier it might be viewed as a necessity.

What if you belong to a culture that believes the sins of past transgressions are visited upon people in their current incarnation. Deaf people in those cultures are shunned and feared, for the question uppermost in hearing people's minds is "What have they done to deserve this?"

On a criminal note it is proven that lack of empathy first starts with animals and insects, then works its way up to humans. The little boy who enjoyed pulling wings off of flies might very well grow up to be a serial killer.

Scientifically we are on the verge of developing life forms, which may be animals, plants, or insects, which may be as smart as humans and able to communicate as well as we do. What do we do when they ask for equal rights? And some of them may dislike the idea the neighbor shot cousin Waldo just because his DNA wasn't tweaked and therefore he has no rights.

I personally was raised in a Native American Indian culture where all things should be respected, all things are believed to be interconnected, and all things have a right to a decent quality of life.

And if a fish feeds you, you should thank it for doing so, and if you have to kill a cockroach you should apologize to it.

Just something to think about.
 
Our pets should NEVER be elevated to our level when it comes to social rights. EVER. We have laws to protect animals from abuse and cruelty and that's as far as we can.

While it is healthy to have relationships with animals, just imagine how ridiculous it would be if we apply "human" to any kind of animals we form relationships with, including a damn ugly roach?

Actually... animal cruelty laws should be tougher, albeit not without imposing restrictions on how many animals a person can own first.

I just find this case to be baffling because the man plead guilty to animal cruelty and misdemeanor. Why further harass him to sue for emotional damage, when it's the owners' fault for not looking after their own dog? And what would it say for the juridical precedent for
say... someone accidentally hitting a cat without seeing them go under the rear tires.
 
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Most animals do not live as long as humans. Most people do replace their animals several times over their life time.

When our neighbor's dogs killed the family cat we told their owner he should take our daughter to the local animal shelter and let he pick out a replacement at his expense he gladly did so. No police or courts ever became involved and after that he kept his dogs confined in his yard.
 
I personally was raised in a Native American Indian culture where all things should be respected, all things are believed to be interconnected, and all things have a right to a decent quality of life.

And if a fish feeds you, you should thank it for doing so, and if you have to kill a cockroach you should apologize to it.

Just something to think about.

I absolutely agree with you. I am Native American (Ojibway/Cherokee) too as well. I believe that hunting deer and turkeys and other game for sport is wrong, but if it is for survival you should give thanks to the animals you've killed. I believe hunting should be only done only if it is to survive, if it will prevent you from starving to death. My dad hunts and I hate that because he has no need to hunt, he has a good job and makes a lot of money and therefore can afford food, and so has no need to hunt. He hunts for money. BTW, he is white, and he is NOT my biological dad. He's just the guy who raised me when my mother died, and before I was given up to the state. My mother is Native American and I don't know who my biological dad is, and where he is. I would ask my mom but she's dead, and grandma has no idea who he is.
 
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