Under the Word of God

[Maria]

Isaiah 14: 13-15

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Lucifer said "I will" 5 times before he was kicked out of Heaven. Lucifer's name was changed to Satan.
Can you explain how and where did Satan's "pride" came from to make him rebel against God ? I knew that God created Lucifer, a very beautiful and highly intelligent angel. Lucifer was a musican/choir himself to praise God above His throne.

I find myself in this :-o when a sin entered God's Heaven - so much the same when Satan subtled Eve to eat the fruit from the tree before Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Eden of the Garden. Before Adam and Eve were kicked out, Eden of the Garden was sooo beautiful with serene, peaceful, harmony, joyful and all...just like in Heaven.

I am tryin' to understand why Satan refused to acknowledge that God created him. I couldn't figure it out why. Was it God's purpose to cause this to happen before He created this earth to test mankind for their faith ?

 

[Askjo]

Isaiah 14: 13-15

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Lucifer said "I will" 5 times before he was kicked out of Heaven. Lucifer's name was changed to Satan.
Can you explain how and where did Satan's "pride" came from to make him rebel against God ? I knew that God created Lucifer, a very beautiful and highly intelligent angel. Lucifer was a musican/choir himself to praise God above His throne.

I find myself in this :-o when a sin entered God's Heaven - so much the same when Satan subtled Eve to eat the fruit from the tree before Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Eden of the Garden. Before Adam and Eve were kicked out, Eden of the Garden was sooo beautiful with serene, peaceful, harmony, joyful and all...just like in Heaven.

I am tryin' to understand why Satan refused to acknowledge that God created him. I couldn't figure it out why. Was it God's purpose to cause this to happen before He created this earth to test mankind for their faith ?

Ezekiel 28:12-17

Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Lucifer's pride came from his freewill. Lucifer acknowledges that God created him (verse 13). How would the fall of the Satan test the faith of mankind?

 

[Maria]

Ezekiel 28:12-17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

That's what I thought at first when it came to pride, because of his beauty that God created him, not like other angels. God made him a special angel. And, secondly...his wisdom, because of his brightness. There were 2 things that caused him fall.

I am soo grateful that I knew Jesus will NEVER fail at the end. He always wins at the end. At the end, Satan will and confessed that Jesus is LORD !

How would the fall of the Satan test the faith of mankind?

I believe that God gave people 2 choices. Obey Him or lose everlastin' life.

Thanks for sharin' the scriptures.

 

[Nusentinsaino]

My point is that everyone of you including myself are under the Word of God. Without the Word of God, we would not be here. With the Word of God, Jesus came here and died on the cross then rose again for you. That's why we are under the Word of God. The earth is the Lord's. That means that we are God's own. That is why we are under the Word of God. Can you imagine if anyone rejects Jesus then He will send him/her to hell because they are God's AND if anyone accept Jesus as personal Savior then He will welcome them to a beautiful home namely Heaven because they are God's? What do you think of yourself when you are under the Word of God?

If "everyone" and the world is under the word of God, then explain to me why there are multiple different kinds of Religions. I know that christianity is a huge majority in the world but there are also Buddish, Hinduism, Jewish, Islamics, etc. That can prove that God is a hoax. Just because it was written in the Bible makes it offical. :roll:

 

[Reba]

If "everyone" and the world is under the word of God, then explain to me why there are multiple different kinds of Religions.

Because man is in rebellion against God, and "religions" are manmade.

 

[Askjo]

If "everyone" and the world is under the word of God, then explain to me why there are multiple different kinds of Religions. I know that christianity is a huge majority in the world but there are also Buddish, Hinduism, Jewish, Islamics, etc. That can prove that God is a hoax. Just because it was written in the Bible makes it offical. :roll:

Well, you know the story of Abel and Cain. They had their own worship. Abel had a right worship that God approved and Cain had a wrong worship that Gos rejected. Religion came from Cain's religious lineage. Buddish, Hinduism, Islamics, etc., came from the lineage of Cain's false religion.

No, God is not a hoax.

 

[LinuxGold]

About many religions --

Devil's number one weapon: Deception and doubt of God's authority.

Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

God warns us that everyone is a liar, and that "it is written" (Bible) that they will be justified in their sayings, anything that conflicts with what is written, which is, Bible.

Romans 3:4
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

God's warning about multi religions including professors, religion leaders and such that doesn't believe in the authority of the Bible:

Deuteronomy 11:16
Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them;

Jesus forewarned us about various Churches:

Matthew 24:11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Something like Waco, Jones and et el:

Matthew 24:5
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Luke 21:8
And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Hence, I conclude my post with these verses:

Ephesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

1 Corinthians 3:18
Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

James 1:26
If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

My final advice is this, which helped me superbly in my own faith:

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

 

[Nusentinsaino]

Well, you know the story of Abel and Cain. They had their own worship. Abel had a right worship that God approved and Cain had a wrong worship that Gos rejected. Religion came from Cain's religious lineage. Buddish, Hinduism, Islamics, etc., came from the lineage of Cain's false religion.

No, God is not a hoax.

I respect what you believe Askjo. So you're saying that the other religions (i.e. Buddish, Hinduism, Jewish etc.) are false? Thats kind of selfish of you, Saying that God is the only true religion. Those geniuses who wrote the bible succeeded into brainwashing the people to believe in one god, and only him, and thats an example of how egotistically they were.

There is no historical proof that all of the other religion came from lineage of the so called, "Cain"... that story is just from the bible if I am correct. You act like that the Bible are historically acurate and happened 2000 some years ago, Well Askjo you do not have the knowledge of the truth, You do not really know if it actually happened. Just because it was written in the bible does not mean it was true.

 

[Beowulf]

I believe in God. That is simple.

HiBluE01

Exactly.
I do not buy this...

 

[Crazymanw00t]

I respect what you believe Askjo. So you're saying that the other religions (i.e. Buddish, Hinduism, Jewish etc.) are false? Thats kind of selfish of you, Saying that God is the only true religion. Those geniuses who wrote the bible succeeded into brainwashing the people to believe in one god, and only him, and thats an example of how egotistically they were.

There is no historical proof that all of the other religion came from lineage of the so called, "Cain"... that story is just from the bible if I am correct. You act like that the Bible are historically acurate and happened 2000 some years ago, Well Askjo you do not have the knowledge of the truth, You do not really know if it actually happened. Just because it was written in the bible does not mean it was true.

Did you read whole things in the Bible? It seems obviously that you haven't read the Bible with your comments.

In fact yes all other than Christian is false religion. It is all about the Justification.

 

[Askjo]

In fact yes all other than Christian is false religion.

Amen !!! God bless your heart!

 

[Maria]

Did you read whole things in the Bible?

I have. Twice... from Genesis to Revelation. KJV, of course ~

 

[Maria]

Exactly.
I do not buy this...

The bible is your SOUL'S FOOD to grow and to get to know God.
And, for your FLESH, you are eatin' what you are buyin' from the store.

 

[Crazymanw00t]

I have. Twice... from Genesis to Revelation. KJV, of course ~

I was asking to other person. Yeah Keep it up re-reading the bible. Every time you re-read and you will discover new meanings from the bible. It is god's work.

 

[Askjo]

The bible is your SOUL'S FOOD to grow and to get to know God.
And, for your FLESH, you are eatin' what you are buyin' from the store.

Amen!

 

[Askjo]

I have. Twice... from Genesis to Revelation. KJV, of course ~

You win and beat me.

 

[Maria]

You win and beat me.

How far have you read ? I am curious.

 

[Askjo]

There is no historical proof that all of the other religion came from lineage of the so called, "Cain"...

Go to study the Bible.

the Bible are historically acurate

Correct.

Askjo you do not have the knowledge of the truth, You do not really know if it actually happened. Just because it was written in the bible does not mean it was true.

Polycarp was a disciple of the Apostle John, one of Jesus' disciples because Polycarp was not in the Bible, but he was found in some historical different books. The Apostle John sent his letter to him according to the Scripture. Polycarp was bishop of the church of Smyrna. I found the evidence because the Bible is ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

Revelations 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Polycarp's church was ONE of 7 churches. That is very OBVIOUS evidence!

Revelations 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

 

[Askjo]

How far have you read ? I am curious.

I read it once per yr.

 

[Maria]

I read it once per yr.

From Genesis to Revelation... all the way through ?

I find this bible fascinatin'. It's the BEST book I ever read than other books. And, the bible is very USEFUL book to read for many good reasons. It transforms a person to be a better person through the Word of God Himself. He is the Potter and we are the "clay" He forms. The bible is a miracle ! The word "magic" is NOT a proper word to call the bible. The word "miracle" is a proper suit.