U.S. soldier sentenced to life in Iraqi killings

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U.S. soldier sentenced to life in Iraqi killings

Army medic accused of killing one of four detainees in 2007


VILSECK, Germany - A U.S. Army medic convicted of murder for his role in the execution-style slayings of four bound and blindfolded Iraqi detainees was sentenced Friday to life in prison with the possibility of parole.

A military court handed down the sentence Friday night after nearly five hours of testimony. Sgt. Joseph Leahy, 28, will also have his rank reduced to private, his pay forfeited and be dishonorably discharged.

Leahy was found guilty on charges of murder and conspiracy to commit murder by the nine-person jury who had heard testimony about the killings at the court-martial at the Army’s Rose Barracks Courthouse since Wednesday.

Leahy was one of six soldiers accused of involvement in the slaying of the prisoners sometime between March 10 and April 16, 2007.

All the soldiers were with the 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade of the 1st Infantry Division in Iraq, which is now part of the Germany-based 172nd Infantry Brigade.

Leahy was acquitted of murder in a separate incident involving the death of another Iraqi in January 2007.

Earlier, Leahy, wearing his dress uniform, sat impassively as the verdicts were handed down by the foreman of the jury, which was made up of officers and enlisted personnel.

Leahy had pleaded not guilty to charges of premeditated murder, conspiracy to commit premeditated murder and obstruction of justice in the deaths of a total of four Iraqi prisoners, who were dumped in a Baghdad canal in 2007 after they were killed.

Leahy, of Lockport, Illinois, confessed to military investigators that he shot one of the prisoners point-blank in the back of the head with a 9mm pistol.

"The detainee I shot fell back on me," he said in a videotape of the January 2008 interrogation played at his court-martial.

His lawyer, Frank Spinner, argued that Leahy went along with the killings because he was dazed from a lack of sleep and numb from being in a war zone for months.

Col. Charles Hoge, a doctor and director of psychology and neuroscience at the Army's Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, testified Thursday that Leahy was unable to reason properly because of that.

"The tragedy resulted not so much by design but rather the working of fear, danger and madness attendant on many combat operations," Spinner said in his closing arguments.

Slain in retribution for attacks

The Iraqi prisoners were taken to the U.S. unit's operating base in Baghdad for questioning and processing though there wasn't enough evidence to hold them for attacking the unit.

Later that night, patrol members took the Iraqis to a remote area and shot them in retribution for attacks against the unit, according to testimony.

Leahy, Master Sgt. John Hatley, 40, and Sgt. 1st Class Joseph Mayo, 27, are accused of pulling the trigger, the jury was told.

"The defense can't just stand there and throw their arms up and say 'We were protecting ourselves from future harm,'" Army Capt. Derrick Grace, the lead prosecutor, said, adding that the killings were the result of a breakdown of discipline and moral responsibility.

"The accused made a conscious choice to go down the road to kill the detainees," he said, adding that Leahy, and others in his squad chose to be "judge, jury and executioner all at once."

All of the accused were with the 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade of the 1st Infantry Division in Iraq, which is now part of the Germany-based 172nd Infantry Brigade.

Three soldiers are scheduled for later courts-martial. Sgt. Charles Quigley, 28, of Providence, R.I., faces one charge of conspiracy to commit premeditated murder. Mayo and Hatley are charged with premeditated murder, conspiracy to commit premeditated murder and obstruction of justice.

Soldier sentenced to life in Iraqi killings - Conflict in Iraq- msnbc.com




 
Here's an idea..

Why not say something positive of USA??

That'll sure shock me alot if you did that..
 
Here's an idea..

Why not say something positive of USA??

That'll sure shock me alot if you did that..

Same here; better yet, I think she should be let go/fired. She has bitten the hand that feeds her way too many times and she's not even an American!
 
Here's an idea..

Why not say something positive of USA??

That'll sure shock me alot if you did that..

Same here; better yet, I think she should be let go/fired. She has bitten the hand that feeds her way too many times and she's not even an American!

She hasn't said anything--just posted a news clipping and a link.
 
Same here; better yet, I think she should be let go/fired. She has bitten the hand that feeds her way too many times and she's not even an American!

No offense, but it is reaching a bit far to make that statement Tousi. I'm a natural born citizen, yet I don't keep up with much of the things Liebling posts.

You could say that, I'm an American who is not even American if that blanket statement applies.

Liebling could just exhibit journalistic personality, where keeping up with the current events and letting others know her findings is apart of her curriculum vitae. What if she works as a journalist?
 
No offense, but it is reaching a bit far to make that statement Tousi. I'm a natural born citizen, yet I don't keep up with much of the things Liebling posts.

You could say that, I'm an American who is not even American if that blanket statement applies.

Liebling could just exhibit journalistic personality, where keeping up with the current events and letting others know her findings is apart of her curriculum vitae. What if she works as a journalist?
Tousi is referring to the long list of threads that Liebling has posted that show Americans, especially American military, doing bad things or being against the war. We never see her post any postive threads about American servicemen. We never see her post any negative threads about the military of other countries.

The irony to which Tousi refers is that Liebling works full time for the American military, and yet she never overlooks an opportunity to bash them.

It isn't current events that she's posting--it's look-how-awful-American-soldiers-are posting. If we followed only her threads we would think that all American soldiers are either blood-thirsty criminals or anti-war activists.
 
So, other than being offended that a German (OMG) posted the article...what is your reaction to the good doctor's murder conviction?
 
Tousi is referring to the long list of threads that Liebling has posted that show Americans, especially American military, doing bad things or being against the war. We never see her post any postive threads about American servicemen. We never see her post any negative threads about the military of other countries.

The irony to which Tousi refers is that Liebling works full time for the American military, and yet she never overlooks an opportunity to bash them.

It isn't current events that she's posting--it's look-how-awful-American-soldiers-are posting. If we followed only her threads we would think that all American soldiers are either blood-thirsty criminals or anti-war activists.

You also have to remember that Americans don't get news from Germany and therefore we do not know what our military members are doing abroad. It's also nice to see that those that are breaking the laws abroad are being punished accordingly.

Liebling knows that there are good military members as well as bad

If they are breaking laws abroad--that's an embarrassment for all Americans--which you should know Reba.
 
One would have hoped after the horrible way Vietnam era veterans were treated, that people learned the lesson.
 
One would have hoped after the horrible way Vietnam era veterans were treated, that people learned the lesson.

What does Viet Nam have to do with this now? Trying to tie it together?

Not going to work sweetie! :)
 
She posted a news link--not an opinion. Big difference. :cool2:
Except this wasn't the first time, or the second time. Can you counter with any pro-American-soldier threads that she posted? And I don't mean pro-anti-war protester soldiers.
 
One would have hoped after the horrible way Vietnam era veterans were treated, that people learned the lesson.

What exactly does that have to do with a military medic charged and convicted of murder in regard to detainees? I believe the military personel responsible for such atrocitiesin Viet Nam were also tried for such. Or have you forgotten incidents such as Mei Lai? Those military personel guilty of such atrocities should be exposed as any other criminal is exposed.
 
What does Viet Nam have to do with this now? Trying to tie it together?

Not going to work sweetie! :)
Sadly, people haven't learned from the previous generation's mistakes.

And I'm not your sweetie.
 
I'm quite aware of the list of Guantánamo/Bush Admin./Iraqi situation threads that she's posted.. And notice one thing, probably 5/6 of them ended up getting locked, without reaching common ground in anywhere, nor anything.

I would not be surprised that this one concludes in the same manner.

IMO; this is just a guess. She continually posts because others band and bash her whole views on the broad situation in general, as ways to "redeem" her previously mentioned opinions, similar to delayed evidence for a court proceeding. Take it with a grain of salt.
 
Sadly, people haven't learned from the previous generation's mistakes.

And I'm not your sweetie.


Evidently, they haven't. You'd think the atrocities of Viet Nam would have taught the current military personel not to repeat such. Obviously not.
 
The difference between the military from previous generations to the current generation is that we are now holding them more accountable for their actions than previously before.
 
Except this wasn't the first time, or the second time. Can you counter with any pro-American-soldier threads that she posted? And I don't mean pro-anti-war protester soldiers.

Oh, so the one's that served and see the error of the war aren't entitled to their opinions. Damned protestors!
 
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