U.S. Declares Public Health Emer.: Swine Flu

[Jiro]

Oh, please. People have done same for years in face of any kind of threat, either perceived or real. Might I remind you of the irrational response to Y2K?

whoa... such a sudden contradiction to your previous post. I thought you said we cannot think for ourselves and make our own decisions???

 

[Jiro]

I thought you said that what he stated wasn't credible. Don't give Americans much credit for being able to think for themselves and make their own decisions, do you? Nice one, Jiro. Yeah, we are all a bunch of non-thinking atomatons that just blindly follow anything that someone says.:roll: Personally, I can't believe that you are attempting to turn a statement made about advise to his own family into a political agenda. Puh-leeze.

1. please point out where in my post did I say that his statement isn't credible.
2. a political agenda??? and what that might be?
3. You are really getting irrational in here... It is very obvious that you are attempting to hide your own skin by distorting other post
4. I think it's time you to give it up and realize that Biden made a gaffe (unintentionally)

 

[jillio]

1. please point out where in my post did I say that his statement isn't credible.
2. a political agenda??? and what that might be?
3. You are really getting irrational in here... It is very obvious that you are attempting to hide your own skin by distorting other post
4. I think it's time you to give it up and realize that Biden made a gaffe (unintentionally)

Hide my skin? What in the world are you talking about? If you don't believe his statement is credible, what in the world are you complaining about? And there is absolutely no reason for me to admit that Biden made a gaffe when I don't believe he did. He spoke for himself and his family in his response to the direct question regarding such. He in no way implied that he was speaking for anyone else or in an official capacity. If there is any distortion going on here, it is by those who can't see that Biden was speaking for what he would do in regard to his own family and nothing more. Your attempt to twist it into something more is what is irrational.

 

[jillio]

whoa... such a sudden contradiction to your previous post. I thought you said we cannot think for ourselves and make our own decisions???

That is not a contradiction. There are those that make the decision to act irrationally on a small amount of information, and there are those that do not choose to act irrationally based on a small amount of information. They are still making their own decisions either way. And are perfectly entitled to do so.

 

[Jiro]

Hide my skin? What in the world are you talking about? If you don't believe his statement is credible, what in the world are you complaining about? And there is absolutely no reason for me to admit that Biden made a gaffe when I don't believe he did. He spoke for himself and his family in his response to the direct question regarding such. He in no way implied that he was speaking for anyone else or in an official capacity. If there is any distortion going on here, it is by those who can't see that Biden was speaking for what he would do in regard to his own family and nothing more. Your attempt to twist it into something more is what is irrational.

oh boy..... Reba... a long-time career Navy reporter (or journalist) with years of experience in public relation/public events.... has tried to explain to you and I too.... and I'm sorry that you're not able to see such an obvious thing.

it's ok. agree to disagree.

 

[jillio]

oh boy..... Reba... a long-time career Navy reporter (or journalist) with years of experience in public relation/public events.... has tried to explain to you and I too.... and I'm sorry that you're not able to see such an obvious thing.

it's ok. agree to disagree.

What exactly does Reba being in the Navy or being a reporter have to do with the fact that I see the statement in a different way? Are you suggesting that your reading comprehension, and Reba's reading comprehension, is superior to mine simply because I have a different perspective? You need to watch yourself, Jiro.

And stand on your own two feet. Stop hiding behind someone else's skirts.

Now, back on topic. Level 5 pandemic warning. Swine flu. How to avoid contracting the virus.

 

[Reba]

Safety is relative. And the virus that is currently spreading adds to that risk. Obviously Biden gives the American public credit for having a bit of common sense and not adding meaning to his words that were not intended. The question was not what he would advise all Americans to do, but what he would advise his own family to do. You are attempting to fulfil a political agenda based on a single personal decision regarding how he would advise his own family to avoid contracting a virus. And if you think Biden's statement is going to have more of an impact on air travel that the concern that is already out there regarding contracting the virus, then you certainly don't give the majority of Americans credit for being able to form a logical thought.

Biden is not responsible for the drop in air travel. The virus is. He did not personally go to Mexico and release the virus in America. Get real.

Even the liberal press corps at the White House press conference didn't buy that--they actually laughed out loud at the press secretary's spin!

Are you saying that Biden has no authority when he speaks? Which is worse, a VP who mongers fear of flying, or a VP no one pays attention to?

If Biden's words were so benign, why has the White House been so frantic to spin those words? Why do they say, "he didn't mean to say that"? Could it be they are the ones with a political agenda?

"Get real?" Is that "phrase of the day"?

If air travel is safe, why does Biden advise his family to not fly?

Are the majority of Americans are more logical than Biden? Are they the same ones who elected Biden?

 

[jillio]

Even the liberal press corps at the White House press conference didn't buy that--they actually laughed out loud at the press secretary's spin!

Are you saying that Biden has no authority when he speaks? Which is worse, a VP who mongers fear of flying, or a VP no one pays attention to?

If Biden's words were so benign, why has the White House been so frantic to spin those words? Why do they say, "he didn't mean to say that"? Could it be they are the ones with a political agenda?

"Get real?" Is that "phrase of the day"?

If air travel is safe, why does Biden advise his family to not fly?

Are the majority of Americans are more logical than Biden? Are they the same ones who elected Biden?

Where exactly did I say that Biden had no authority when he speaks? I said that people should have enough sense when a question is asked from a personal perspective, and answered as such, that he is speaking for no one other than himself, and is not attempting to make an authoritative statement for the whole population.

And no, the ones who attempt to derail a thread to criticise a statement made from a personal perspective are the ones with the political agenda. OMG, Biden would advise his family not to fly until the virus is contained. Look at all the damage he has done to this country! The reaction to his statement is more irrational than some people's reaction to the real threat of a level 5 pandemic threat.

 

[Reba]

Not if you have the ability to listen and comprehend. The question was what he would advise his family. He answered as to what he would do in regard to his own family. Had he said that he would advise them to go about their daily lives with no concern or need to take precautions, he would have been criticised for not having enough concern for his own family so how can he have concern for other Americans. Some people simply use anything to promote their own anti-Democratic agenda.

His answer showed that he has no confidence in the airlines or subways, and that he obviously didn't get Obama's memo on swine flu comments. Or did he get the memo and ignore it.

If Biden doesn't want his words used against him he should think before he speaks.

If it's an anti-Democrat agenda, why is it the Democrat administration that's been apologizing for and "explaining" Biden's words all day?

 

[Jiro]

What exactly does Reba being in the Navy or being a reporter have to do with the fact that I see the statement in a different way? Are you suggesting that your reading comprehension, and Reba's reading comprehension, is superior to mine simply because I have a different perspective? You need to watch yourself, Jiro.

And stand on your own two feet. Stop hiding behind someone else's skirts.

so you really had to resort to such snide remarks? what's the matter? kitchen got too hot for you? to answer your question - no this has NOTHING to do with reading comprehension. People can read the headline alright but the majority cannot really be counted on to think rationally and logically. That's why White House has speech writer and press secretary dedicated to "wording" the situation that can cause any kind of impact on public reaction. Looks like Biden should have let them do the talking

Now, back on topic. Level 5 pandemic warning. Swine flu. How to avoid contracting the virus.

huh? are you confusing this thread with another thread called Q&A Swine Flu? This thread is about US issuing the public health emergency.... in other word - a press conference. we're on topic.

 

[Reba]

That is not a contradiction. There are those that make the decision to act irrationally on a small amount of information, and there are those that do not choose to act irrationally based on a small amount of information. They are still making their own decisions either way. And are perfectly entitled to do so.

Which one is Biden? Rational or irrational?

 

[Babyblue]

Why does you said in cap word? It sounds like shout at me or someone.

No. I am not shouting at you or anyone. Just making a point on what I think..



Eating pork or even handing raw meat will not give you the Swine Flu. It is not even the case, in the country that they are slaughtering the pigs!! I am just empathizing the fact that it gives "them" the excuse to do so. Since the majority of them in that particular country are against eating Pork.

 

[jillio]

His answer showed that he has no confidence in the airlines or subways, and that he obviously didn't get Obama's memo on swine flu comments. Or did he get the memo and ignore it.

If Biden doesn't want his words used against him he should think before he speaks.

If it's an anti-Democrat agenda, why is it the Democrat administration that's been apologizing for and "explaining" Biden's words all day?

Where in the world does a recommendation for avoiding contracting a virus show no confidence in airlines and subways? Now you are really attempting to insert meaning. And poorly at that. His statements show nothing of the kind.

I suppose you did get the memo?

 

[Babyblue]

so you really had to resort to such snide remarks? what's the matter? kitchen got too hot for you? to answer your question - no this has NOTHING to do with reading comprehension. People can read the headline alright but the majority cannot really be counted on to think rationally and logically. That's why White House has speech writer and press secretary dedicated to "wording" the situation that can cause any kind of impact on public reaction. Looks like Biden should have let them do the talking


huh? are you confusing this thread with another thread called Q&A Swine Flu? This thread is about US issuing the public health emergency.... in other word - a press conference. we're on topic.

In bold prints... It is being discussed in several threads. Plenty of people on AD have been discussing various things about the "Swine Flu" on various levels in the threads posted in AD...

Pick and choose which thread you prefer to post in!!!

 

[jillio]

Which one is Biden? Rational or irrational?

I've already stated who I believe the irrational ones to be.

 

[jillio]

so you really had to resort to such snide remarks? what's the matter? kitchen got too hot for you? to answer your question - no this has NOTHING to do with reading comprehension. People can read the headline alright but the majority cannot really be counted on to think rationally and logically. That's why White House has speech writer and press secretary dedicated to "wording" the situation that can cause any kind of impact on public reaction. Looks like Biden should have let them do the talking


huh? are you confusing this thread with another thread called Q&A Swine Flu? This thread is about US issuing the public health emergency.... in other word - a press conference. we're on topic.

In response to your snide remarks, Jiro. Perhaps you should not resort to that yourself if you don't want to be responded to in kind.

Way to go. You have just stated that the majority of the American public can not be trusted to think rationally and logically. Where does that attitude of superiority come from? Keep digging that hole.

Exactly. Level 5 pandemic threat in response to the swine flu. Discuss it.

 

[Babyblue]

I've already stated who I believe the irrational ones to be.

It really does not matter. On who says what. We obviously have to allow it to take it course.


Back in the 1900s we did not have the Air travel, and the Cruises like we do today. They were unable to contain it then. What makes people think we can contain it now?

The only thing we can really rely and hope on, is the medical technology we have at the moment.

We think it is bad now. This is just the beginning. Think about the incubation period. How many people may be infected, and not even know it until a week later. When they first get sick, or before they even show symptoms.. They are spreading it.

I am not relying on the political views. I am relying on the CDC, Health Dept, and the WHO. No other!! They do not need political approval, to announce any cases.

 

[Reba]

Where exactly did I say that Biden had no authority when he speaks? I said that people should have enough sense when a question is asked from a personal perspective, and answered as such, that he is speaking for no one other than himself, and is not attempting to make an authoritative statement for the whole population.

If Biden's answer wasn't important, why was it asked? (Not asked by a conservative, btw.) People want to know if they are getting truthful information about the situation. If Biden doesn't believe the planes and subways are safe, people want to know why. They feel entitled to access the same straight information about the flu that Biden has.

And no, the ones who attempt to derail a thread to criticise a statement made from a personal perspective are the ones with the political agenda.

Not at all. It goes to credibility. If we can't trust what the President and his administration say about the flu danger, then we need to hold them accountable for the truth.

OMG, Biden would advise his family not to fly until the virus is contained. Look at all the damage he has done to this country! The reaction to his statement is more irrational than some people's reaction to the real threat of a level 5 pandemic threat.

That's right, try to deflect Biden's boo boo by mocking others.

If you really want a laugh, watch the press secretary's performance from this afternoon--it was a hoot.

 

[jillio]

It really does not matter. On who says what. We obviously have to allow it to take it course.


Back in the 1900s we did not have the Air travel, and the Cruises like we do today. They were unable to contain it then. What makes people think we can contain it now?

The only thing we can really rely and hope on, is the medical technology we have at the moment.

We think it is bad now. This is just the beginning. Think about the incubation period. How many people may be infected, and not even know it until a week later. When they first get sick, or before they even show symptoms.. They are spreading it.

.

I am not relying on the political views. I am relying on the CDC, Health Dept, and the WHO. No other!! They do not need political approval, to announce any cases.

Exactly. Which is why I said that you are wise to rely on accurate sources for information. This is a health related issue, and people need to be relying on the health care experts for their information

 

[Babyblue]

In response to your snide remarks, Jiro. Perhaps you should not resort to that yourself if you don't want to be responded to in kind.

Way to go. You have just stated that the majority of the American public can not be trusted to think rationally and logically. Where does that attitude of superiority come from? Keep digging that hole.

Exactly. Level 5 pandemic threat in response to the swine flu. Discuss it.

THANK YOU!!

and who raised it to that level..... Not Obama!! Not Biden!!

but the WHO!!