U.S. Border Agents ordered to prison !!!!

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From the Desk of:
Steve Elliott, President
Grassfire.org


1/17/2007

HEATH,

Border Agents Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos have been ordered
by Judge Kathleen Cardone to surrender to the United States
Marshal by 3 pm (EST) today!

Both agents had filed a motion with the court to remain free
on bond while they appeal their case. With this ruling, the
agents must begin serving their sentences beginning today!

To read the story, and Grassfire's news release click here:

DailyBulletin.com - Agents to report to prison today

Read Grassfire's release:

www.Grassfire.net

I am outraged by this devastating ruling, and want our team
to know that this issue is not over!

This decision to send these men to prison--where they will
likely be placed among the drug dealers and gang members they
put in prison themselves will no doubt send a terrible message
to every law enforcement official in the nation, that our
justice department, our government no longer has your back!

Just two weeks ago, National Guardsmen were fired upon on
the border. But because they cannot engage, they had to retreat!

This is utter madness.

Yesterday, Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX) delivered your petitions directly
to the White House in a twelfth-hour effort to keep these men
from going to prison. The White House did not respond. Why hasn't
the President commented on this case? I want to know!

As mentioned earlier, this issue is far from over.

Grassfire is committed to working to free these men who swore
to protect us. Ron De Jong and I will be presenting your
petitions and meeting with members of the media today, and we
will challenge the President and our Justice System... In short,
we will be bold for these men, and I need you to do the same!

I am personally appealing to each member of our Grassfire team
to stand in the gap for agents Compean and Ramos. Continue
telling their story to friends and rallying much needed
grassroots support.

But it can't end there. Continue pressuring the White House--
demanding they pardon these men!

Here is the White House number: 202/456-1111

Together we must be bold for these dedicated family men who
stood for us. Now we must stand for them until this terrible
wrong is made right!

Thanks for taking immediate action with me.

Steve Elliott
President
Grassfire.org Alliance

P.S: Please forward this message to ALL your friends and family.
Urge them to sign our petition and call the White House, today!

++ Sign our Petition:

GrassFire.org - Real Impact Online.
 
They wouldn't care about to address this issue.

Remember, life is cruel. ;)
 
Well Pacman, You can sign the petition and have their backs because they will have your backs when the chips are down. You never know that one last petitioner set these honest hard working policemen free and reverse the political tide of America in the right direction. There is still time before 3 p.m. E.S.T. to try and do something about it.
 
Compean and Ramos were sentenced in October to 12 and 11 years, respectively, in federal prison for the non-fatal shooting of a Mexican drug smuggler. Both men said they believed the smuggler was carrying a weapon during a foot chase along the Texas-Mexico border on Feb. 17, 2005.
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I would reserve my opinion until the investigation is over. Remember innocent until proven guilty applies to all parties involved here. And just because someone is smuggling drugs doesn't earn them the right to be shot at. While I hope that our border police are innocent we also want to ensure there is no vigilante justice occurring. Remember there are good and bad in all. Just because you are a cop doesn't automatically make you an innocent law abiding good honest person. If they are innocent I believe they will prevail - God willing.
 
Sounds like they're going to serve time for their crimes. What's the problem? Special rights for law enforcement? They knew the law and need to serve as an example that even the Law isn't exempt from itself.

Justice is blind.
 
doh said:
Sounds like they're going to serve time for their crimes. What's the problem? Special rights for law enforcement? They knew the law and need to serve as an example that even the Law isn't exempt from itself.

Justice is blind.
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you might want to reserve your judgement until the investigation is over. You assume they committed a crime and that is not yet proven. If the smuggler did pull a gun on them then they have the right to protect themselves by shooting at him and that is not a crime. Dont' be to quick to judge is my point in this. Don't judge guilt or innocence until a proper investigation has been conducted and the facts have been revealed.
 
I think the whole situation should have been dealt with administratively within the department, and not made a criminal matter. It's a sad day when the testimony of one illegal alien drug runner (who was given immunity from prosecution) is taken over the testimony of two border patrolmen.

What will result? More border patrolmen will hesitate to go after illegal aliens because they know their department won't support them, and that the criminals get better protection than they do.

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I am personally in favor of shooting drug smugglers on sight.
 
rockdrummer said:
you might want to reserve your judgement until the investigation is over. You assume they committed a crime and that is not yet proven. If the smuggler did pull a gun on them then they have the right to protect themselves by shooting at him and that is not a crime. Dont' be to quick to judge is my point in this. Don't judge guilt or innocence until a proper investigation has been conducted and the facts have been revealed.
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Claiming that someone is carrying a weapon doesn't give a cop license to shoot someone. Was there a weapon found with the suspect? The article didn't say. If the smuggler had a gun then the LEOs had a right to defend theirselves. I can't imagine that a detail such as a gun being found in the vicinity of the smuggler wouldn't be reported.

Something doesn't add up. The two LEOs failed to convince 12 of their peers that they didn't commit a list of crimes, including lying about discharging their guns. Since they fired their guns in the comission of another crime they both have a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years (each).

Right now they're both guilty and they need to be punished in accordance with the law -- even while they appeal -- just like every other person found guilty of a crime. Or would you prefer people convicted of serial killings out of prison while they appeal their death sentence? Equality is the name of the Justice game.
 
doh said:
Right now they're both guilty and they need to be punished in accordance with the law -- even while they appeal -- just like every other person found guilty of a crime. ..
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In the United States, convicted people are often allowed to stay out of prison during their appeals. That is "in accordance with the law."
 
Eve said:
I am personally in favor of shooting drug smugglers on sight.
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So am I too. Time to stop this madness on the streets and kids dying everywhere, kids bodies dropping like flies from a drug overdose etc. The costs are staggering and a bullet costs what about 79 cents and save the American taxpayers millions of dollars. Put the wall up and shoot anybody that tries to cross the Mexican border and the American flag should mean " Don't fuck around with us !!!! We are Americans and we will kick the shit out of you !!!!! " That is what the AMERICAN FLAG SHOULD MEAN !!!!!! No womder the mexicans fly their flag and chant , Mexico, Mexico as if the USA was part of Mexico when it is not. It is really sickening and I sure will be glad when we have a Pro-American President who knows what the American flag means !!!!! :cool:
 
Reba said:
In the United States, convicted people are often allowed to stay out of prison during their appeals. That is "in accordance with the law."
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That's true when the convicts aren't a flight risk.
 
doh said:
Claiming that someone is carrying a weapon doesn't give a cop license to shoot someone. Was there a weapon found with the suspect? The article didn't say. If the smuggler had a gun then the LEOs had a right to defend theirselves. I can't imagine that a detail such as a gun being found in the vicinity of the smuggler wouldn't be reported.

Something doesn't add up. The two LEOs failed to convince 12 of their peers that they didn't commit a list of crimes, including lying about discharging their guns. Since they fired their guns in the comission of another crime they both have a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years (each).

Right now they're both guilty and they need to be punished in accordance with the law -- even while they appeal -- just like every other person found guilty of a crime. Or would you prefer people convicted of serial killings out of prison while they appeal their death sentence? Equality is the name of the Justice game.
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I agree and my bad for not reading completly. I didn't catch the bit about them being allready convicted. So then the investigation is over.
 
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From the Desk of:
Steve Elliott, President
Grassfire.org


1/18/2007

HEATH,

Last night while expressing outrage over the Ramos/Compean
case on KABC's Al Rantel Show, I was thrown a bit of a curveball.
Leading into a break, Al told me he wanted to discuss another
breaking story that was equally outrageous.

Not sure where he was going, I jumped on the Internet and
began a furious search. What I found made my blood boil.

HEATH, on Tuesday, the Mexican government sent a diplomatic
note to the United States protesting the fatal shooting of a
Mexican immigrant by a U.S. Border Patrol agent.

Click here to read the story:

Mexican Gov't Blasts Killing of Migrant | World Latest | Guardian Unlimited

In the tragic wake of the Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos saga,
this latest story is now the standard on our border. Right is
wrong, down is up and chaos rules supreme!

The fact that Mexico has the audacity to reprimand our government,
and our government suggests the possibility of a civil rights
investigation is beyond absurd!

HEATH, our nation has become a laughingstock.

Perhaps we ought to seriously consider changing the inscription
on the Statue of Liberty to "bring us your drug cartels, human
traffickers, drug pushers and violent gangs!"

Is this what we have become?

I believe the answer in all this madness is found at the grassroots
level--people like you and I fighting for what is right.

That is why I am urging EVERY member of our Grassfire team who has
already signed our "Pardon the Agents" petition to add their name
to our "Secure the Border" petition by clicking here:

GrassFire.org - Real Impact Online.

Then after adding your name, alert your friends to the madness that
has become our borders! BUT WAIT. It is no longer good enough
just to send the message. Please follow it up, talk about the
madness with your friends, and let them know the importance of
signing our petition and having a REAL voice in this issue!

Thank you for taking action with me!

Steve Elliott
President
Grassfire.org Alliance

P.S: Please forward this message to ALL your friends and family.
Urge them to sign our petition and call the White House, today!

++ Sign our Secure Our Borders Petition:

GrassFire.org - Real Impact Online.
 
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From the Desk of:
Steve Elliott, President
Grassfire.org


1/19/2007

U.S. President Open to the Idea of a Pardon for Agents!

HEATH,

The Associated Press is reporting that President Bush is
open to the possibility of a pardon for border agents,
saying "there's a process for pardons." He added that
the White House will review the case.

HEATH, although agents Compean and Ramos are serving
their sentences, this is a grassroots victory.

This was the first time the President publicly spoke on
this case, and I believe it was due to intense growing
pressure from Grassfire team members!

Click to read the complete story:

Bush open to idea of pardon for former U.S. Border Patrol agents who shot Mexican drug dealer - Print Version - International Herald Tribune

+ + 265,000 and Growing

During the DC press event last week, Ron De Jong and I presented
225,000 petitions--the same petitions that Rep. Poe delivered
to the White House the day before Ramos and Compean surrendered
to U.S. Marshals.

Thanks for standing with Grassfire. This is truly an issue worth
fighting for, and we are grateful for your amazing outpouring
of support!

Steve Elliott
President
Grassfire.org Alliance
 
I guess it's better than nothing but he really should have done this a long time ago, and it should have been a full pardon.

Update:

Bush Commutes Sentences for Two Former Border Patrol Agents
President Bush commutes the sentences of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, convicted of shooting a Mexican drug runner in 2005.

Monday, January 19, 2009

On his last full day in office, President Bush commuted the controversial sentences of two former Border Patrol agents convicted of shooting a Mexican drug runner in 2005.

The imprisonment of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean had sparked outcry from critics who said the men were just doing their jobs and were punished too harshly. They had been sentenced to 11- and 12-year sentences, respectively.

Their sentences will now expire on March 20 of this year.

Ramos and Compean were sentenced in connection with the shooting of Osvaldo Aldrete Davila, who was shot in the buttocks while trying to flee along the Texas border. He admitted smuggling several hundred pounds of marijuana on the day he was shot and pleaded guilty last year to drug charges related to two other smuggling attempts.

The pair's case ignited debate across the country, as a chorus of organizations and members of Congress -- many of them Republican -- argued that the men were just doing their jobs. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., was particularly outspoken on the issue, at one time describing Ramos and Compean as "unjustly convicted men who never should have been prosecuted in the first place."

Rohrabacher applauded Bush on Monday, telling FOXNews.com "his own stubbornness was overcome by better parts of his own soul."

"The order ... reaffirms our faith that the system works, if indeed the American people are willing to work at it," he said.

Nearly the entire congressional delegation from Texas and other lawmakers from both sides of the political aisle pleaded with Bush to grant them clemency. Conservatives hailed Bush's decision Monday.

"The whole thing was ridiculous from beginning to end, and two years was way too long for them to serve," said radio talk show host Laura Ingraham. "Conservatives are very happy across the country."

Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, said in a written statement that Bush had "responded to the calls for compassion that came from across the country and made the right decision in granting these two men commutations."

The White House has until noon Tuesday, when President-elect Barack Obama is to be sworn in, to grant any more clemency requests. But White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said Monday's commutations would be Bush's last acts of clemency....
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Bush Commutes Sentences for Two Former Border Patrol Agents | Political News - FOXNews.com
 
FINALLY!

(CNN) -- Two former U.S. Border Patrol agents -- whose cases became flashpoints in the controversy over border security -- were released early from prison Tuesday, one of their attorneys and a congressman said.

The agents were convicted in 2006 of shooting and wounding an unarmed illegal immigrant and then covering it up.

President George W. Bush issued commutations for both men during his final days in office last month. Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean had received 11- and 12-year prison sentences, respectively.

After the commutation, their prison sentences were set to end March 20.

Ramos was released on furlough to travel from prison in Phoenix, Arizona, to his home in El Paso, Texas, where he will serve the remaining portion of his sentence under house arrest, said his attorney, David L. Botsford of Austin, Texas.

After March 20, Ramos will be on "supervised release" -- similar to probation -- for up to three years, Botsford said.

Compean had been incarcerated in Elkton, Ohio, said U.S. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-California.

"At last, Ramos and Compean have been rightfully reunited with their families," Rohrabacher said in a statement. "This day is long overdue. I wish the Ramos and Compean families the best as they now try to pick up the pieces and begin to heal from this terrible ordeal."

...Department of Homeland Security Inspector General Richard L. Skinner, in a statement posted on the agency's Web site, confirmed that his staff wrongly told members of Congress last September that Compean had stated he "wanted to shoot a Mexican."

"At the time my staff made that statement, they believed it to be true, although we later learned it was inaccurate," Skinner said. "In fact, Mr. Compean had stated in a sworn statement that 'my intent was to kill the alien ... and I think Nacho [Ramos] was also trying to kill the alien.' "

Critics of U.S. immigration policy have been campaigning for a pardon for the two agents, arguing they were just doing their jobs.

The shooting happened February 17, 2005, on the U.S.-Mexico border southeast of El Paso, Texas.

...A commutation reduces a convict's prison term, but the conviction remains on the person's record. A pardon wipes the slate clean by erasing the record of the conviction.

A president has the sole authority to grant clemency to whomever he chooses, although a Justice Department office usually reviews applications and makes recommendations after considering such standards as a person's degree of remorse and ability to lead a responsible and productive life after release.

Those applying for a pardon through the Justice Department are required to wait at least five years after their conviction or release from confinement.
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Ex-Border Patrol agents released early from prison - CNN.com
 
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