True American .....

Heath said:
I see now that no matter what I post, you will criticize me even if I am right and have the hard hitting facts. With or without an online link or suggested book reading.

Why should we listen to u when u call us liberalism which it is full of lies coming from u? It shows you how much u know nothing about us.
 
Heath said:
Society is not getting better unless we return back to Biblical values that made this country so great.

This country never had 'Biblical values', that's just a fallacy you've created on your own.

Heath said:
I was raised in the real world too. I know that the world isn't perfect but there are ways to improve, A nation either improves or does not by obeying what God had to say and teach.

Then you truly understand nothing about society or about religion.

Heath said:
I do not promote anything negative. I sign conservative petitions and go to rallies, and talk to another activists and I am very Pro-Conservative.

Conservatives are negative about everything by nature. I seek to liberate. You seek to control. I seek to better society, you seek to destroy it.

Heath said:
You are for Abortion, Homosexuality, Anti-Bible etc. How is that positive ?

I support gay rights. I support a woman's right to do whatever she wants with her body. I support a person's right to practice a religion other than Christianity if he or she so chooses.

I am not "for abortion". I do not think abortion is the right way to deal with an unexpected pregnancy, but I'm not so foolish as to say that just because I would never myself have an abortion that no one else can have one either.

I am not "for homosexuality". I think that what goes on in a private room between two consenting adults is no business of the state or a local religious leader. Would you like it if you had a girlfriend and I told all of your friends that you were having hot sex with her every night? Would you like it if I started preaching to you about heterosexuality being immoral?

I am not "Anti-Bible". I do believe in the value of Scripture, I simply choose to use a different holy book than you do. I am not opposed to those who choose to use the Bible, only those like you who wholly misinterpret the text in order to justify grave evil and deviation from God's laws.

These are all silly labels you have created for me in order to comfort yourself. You've never felt God in your life before... And as long as you think that you're doing the right thing, you never will. I pity you, I really do.

Heath said:
I see now that no matter what I post, you will criticize me even if I am right and have the hard hitting facts. With or without an online link or suggested book reading.

Facts? You haven't presented any facts, only your own testimony which would not be considered valid by any reasonably intelligent individual. You must cite sources, credible people and sources that agree with you. If you can't do that, then all you've presented here is heresay.

You can't find a source that supports your view, so you react by trying to defend yourself. You play the idea that there is a massive conspiracy out to change things to make your life harder, to make you miserable.

You are mentally ill, Heath. You really need to see a shrink, ASAP.
 
Heath said:
You are for Abortion, Homosexuality, Anti-Bible etc. How is that positive ?

How is Teresh for all of this, Heath? I don't see anything in her/his posts anywhere that would say otherwise?

May I say to all the others that it is the trademark of those who are right-wing to diminish and question the "patriotism" of those who disagree with them and they are not to be taken seriously.

This, Heath, is called, "The First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America," which you just pissed on.
 
Teresh said:
This country never had 'Biblical values', that's just a fallacy you've created on your own.



Then you truly understand nothing about society or about religion.



Conservatives are negative about everything by nature. I seek to liberate. You seek to control. I seek to better society, you seek to destroy it.



I support gay rights. I support a woman's right to do whatever she wants with her body. I support a person's right to practice a religion other than Christianity if he or she so chooses.

I am not "for abortion". I do not think abortion is the right way to deal with an unexpected pregnancy, but I'm not so foolish as to say that just because I would never myself have an abortion that no one else can have one either.

I am not "for homosexuality". I think that what goes on in a private room between two consenting adults is no business of the state or a local religious leader. Would you like it if you had a girlfriend and I told all of your friends that you were having hot sex with her every night? Would you like it if I started preaching to you about heterosexuality being immoral?

I am not "Anti-Bible". I do believe in the value of Scripture, I simply choose to use a different holy book than you do. I am not opposed to those who choose to use the Bible, only those like you who wholly misinterpret the text in order to justify grave evil and deviation from God's laws.

These are all silly labels you have created for me in order to comfort yourself. You've never felt God in your life before... And as long as you think that you're doing the right thing, you never will. I pity you, I really do.



Facts? You haven't presented any facts, only your own testimony which would not be considered valid by any reasonably intelligent individual. You must cite sources, credible people and sources that agree with you. If you can't do that, then all you've presented here is heresay.

You can't find a source that supports your view, so you react by trying to defend yourself. You play the idea that there is a massive conspiracy out to change things to make your life harder, to make you miserable.

You are mentally ill, Heath. You really need to see a shrink, ASAP.

You can think all you want, even if I pointed you to credible sources. You will still deny it. Politically correct people really are mentally ill people. I am not mentally ill. That's you. I have already showed you many different credible sources in various posts in different threads and you just kept discrediting God when in fact, I am showing you what God has to say on each subject. I can bet you that if I were to discuss the topic of abortion then you would still deny God whenever I show you certain Scriptures and you.... I mean just about everything you do, you deny it. Classical denial, man !!!! That's you. Not me. Not God. That is you and the devil which is really sad.
 
Heath said:
Worry doesn't help tomorrow's troubles, but it does ruin today's happiness.
-anonymous


It is time to change from REDNECK humor to TRUE AMERICAN Humor! Only I don't see it as Humor, but the correct way to LIVE YOUR LIFE ! If you feel the same, pass this on to your True American friends. Ya'll know who ya' are...

You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: It never occurred to you to be offended by the phrase, "One nation, under God."

You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You've never protested about seeing the 10 Commandments posted in public places.

You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You still say "Christmas" instead of "Winter Festival."

You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You bow your head when someone prays.

You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You stand and place your hand over your heart when they play the National Anthem.

You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You treat Viet Nam vets with great respect, and always have.

You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You've never burned an American flag.

You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You know what you believe and you aren't afraid to say so, no matter who is listening.

You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You respect your elders and expect your kids to do the same.

You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You'd give your last dollar to a friend.

If you got this email from me, it is because I believe that you, like me, have just enough TRUE AMERICAN in you to have the same beliefs as those talked about in this email. God Bless the U S A !

Git 'er done!!!
I agree in what your saying....
 
Sweetheart said:
No way. American Flag is symbol of USA. Maybe that woman who made the flag which is Christian? But still, very silly to saying that American Flag is Christian Flag, it's not. I consider it as American Flag is symbol of USA.
All I heard that a american flag is a symbol of USA. But I'll ask
 
Heath said:
Worry doesn't help tomorrow's troubles, but it does ruin today's happiness.
-anonymous


1. You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: It never occurred to you to be offended by the phrase, "One nation, under God."

2. You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You've never protested about seeing the Ten Commandments posted in public places.

3. You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You still say "Christmas" instead of "Winter Festival."

4. You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You bow your head when someone prays.

5. You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You stand and place your hand over your heart when they play the National Anthem.

6. You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You treat Viet Nam vets with great respect, and always have.

7. You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You've never burned an American flag.

8. You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You know what you believe and you aren't afraid to say so, no matter who is listening.

9. You are a TRUE AMERICAN if: You respect your elders and expect your kids to do the same.

Some of the stuff was trite and deleted to get to the point.

1. I never have been offended.

2. I've never protested it, but I know that the posting of them was for publicity for the Hollywood movie by the same name. Remember, I was a history minor in college and I do know the truth, Heath. You're too late to pull the wool over my eyes.

3. I actually say, "Merry Christmas" and get offended by anything else. I'm one up on you, so the score is: Heath-0, pek1-1.

4. Why? I do that when I pray, why should I do it when someone else prays?

5. I stand, that's it.

6. I also call to them in parades, shouting, "Welcome Home!!" Do you do it, Heath? The Vietnam vets got the shaft by the government you so richly love and woe to the person who slams it.

7. I accidentally did with a couple cousins when we were in our early teens. Otherwise, I see nothing wrong with it, this falls under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

8. I already do.

9. I respect where respect is due. When older adults introduce themselves to me by first name, they are called by their first name. I rarely let kids call me "Mr" because I don't want them to. It has nothing to do with respect. When people of the likes of you, Heath, force me to do that or would force my kids, the buck stops with me and I will put my foot down. If you or anyone else has to force "respect" from me or my kids, you won't get it. That, my cyber-friend, is not open for debate.
 
Cassbugs said:
All I heard that a american flag is a symbol of USA. But I'll ask

Yes, it is a symbol. Heath would have you believe otherwise.
 
Heath said:
You can think all you want, even if I pointed you to credible sources. You will still deny it. Politically correct people really are mentally ill people. I am not mentally ill. That's you. I have already showed you many different credible sources in various posts in different threads and you just kept discrediting God when in fact, I am showing you what God has to say on each subject. I can bet you that if I were to discuss the topic of abortion then you would still deny God whenever I show you certain Scriptures and you.... I mean just about everything you do, you deny it. Classical denial, man !!!! That's you. Not me. Not God. That is you and the devil which is really sad.


Heath,

As a history minor, I would go by the earliest date of whatever is written and its generation. That means that if what you say is a rewrite of what was written earlier, it has no credibility. The original carries the original credibility, not rewrites, paraphrases or quotations of such by whomever author.
 
Heath said:
You can think all you want, even if I pointed you to credible sources. You will still deny it.

If you posted a credible source, I couldn't deny it. That would violate all of my values, everything I believe in.

You're set in your ways, you think nothing can ever change, which is precisely why you think I can't change, that I don't change. Wrong. I change constantly. You're just making excuses for your own ineptitude and inability to defend your own argument.

Heath said:
Politically correct people really are mentally ill people. I am not mentally ill. That's you.

Who said anything about political correctness? I have no love for PC, I only care about maintaining order and the American way, which you seek to pervert. This is not a Christian nation, it never was and never will be. You are a "faction" opposed to Democracy, opposed to America, as written in the Federalist Papers. You don't realise that you are the enemy of democracy, the enemy of freedom.

Heath said:
I have already showed you many different credible sources in various posts in different threads and you just kept discrediting God when in fact, I am showing you what God has to say on each subject.

You've never ever cited any credible sources on ANY TOPIC. EVER. You're an inept at debate because you can never defend your view intelligently, the reason for this is that you are either not ingelligent or you have no debate skills.

Heath said:
I can bet you that if I were to discuss the topic of abortion then you would still deny God whenever I show you certain Scriptures and you....

I use a different holy book than you do. I don't worship God the same way you do. It doesn't matter to me what your holy book says on the subject any more than mine should matter to you.

Heath said:
I mean just about everything you do, you deny it. Classical denial, man !!!! That's you. Not me. Not God. That is you and the devil which is really sad.

I rip you apart in discussion because you are weak. You lack the strength, the knowledge, and above all, the intelligence, to defend your view. I tear you limb from limb in discussion because you invite it. I am willing to indulge your masochistic desires. I can be very cruel individual when need be.

I'm not always that way, indeed, I'm usually not, but it's the only side of me that you see here because it's the only side you want to see.
 
Teresh said:
If you posted a credible source, I couldn't deny it. That would violate all of my values, everything I believe in.

You're set in your ways, you think nothing can ever change, which is precisely why you think I can't change, that I don't change. Wrong. I change constantly. You're just making excuses for your own ineptitude and inability to defend your own argument.



Who said anything about political correctness? I have no love for PC, I only care about maintaining order and the American way, which you seek to pervert. This is not a Christian nation, it never was and never will be. You are a "faction" opposed to Democracy, opposed to America, as written in the Federalist Papers. You don't realise that you are the enemy of democracy, the enemy of freedom.



You've never ever cited any credible sources on ANY TOPIC. EVER. You're an inept at debate because you can never defend your view intelligently, the reason for this is that you are either not ingelligent or you have no debate skills.



I use a different holy book than you do. I don't worship God the same way you do. It doesn't matter to me what your holy book says on the subject any more than mine should matter to you.



I rip you apart in discussion because you are weak. You lack the strength, the knowledge, and above all, the intelligence, to defend your view. I tear you limb from limb in discussion because you invite it. I am willing to indulge your masochistic desires. I can be very cruel individual when need be.

I'm not always that way, indeed, I'm usually not, but it's the only side of me that you see here because it's the only side you want to see.

:popcorn: Popcorn for a dollar, come and watch the debate between Teresh and Heath. :popcorn:
 
pek1 said:
:popcorn: Popcorn for a dollar, come and watch the debate between Teresh and Heath. :popcorn:

Thanks, but I saw the original. The remake, well ... how many "Land Before Time" movies can a guy stand, eh?
 
ismi said:
Thanks, but I saw the original. The remake, well ... how many "Land Before Time" movies can a guy stand, eh?

I can do this forever, but I do wonder if Heath will eventually give up.
 
correction: The American flag is NOT a christian flag. It's a COUNTRY flag.
 
Jeebus H. Christ, is Heath for real?

I mean, some of the things he says are just out there.

Sometimes I wonder if he is just shitting with us. Ya know?
 
hootster said:
Jeebus H. Christ, is Heath for real?

I mean, some of the things he says are just out there.

Sometimes I wonder if he is just shitting with us. Ya know?

Sadly, Heath is for real in what he says. He's actually convinced that this country was founded upon Christian principles. He's convinced that any references to Deism and Unitarianism and the founding fathers were made up by "the evil God-hating liberals." Talking about being brainwashed huh? I've given up in arguing with him. Now I just poke fun at him.

Hey Heath. You are aware that Jesus was a liberal, aren't you?
 
It seems that Heath's threads mostly ignites arguments, disagreements, etc. IT's never gonna end! *steps away and runs away*
 
50 stars=50 states

12 red stripes=12 colonies.

anything christian about that? not really. go back to american history.

besides, state and church are completely seperated...it's never really fair to put church above the law.
 
Heath said:
You can think all you want, even if I pointed you to credible sources. You will still deny it. Politically correct people really are mentally ill people. I am not mentally ill. That's you. I have already showed you many different credible sources in various posts in different threads and you just kept discrediting God when in fact, I am showing you what God has to say on each subject. I can bet you that if I were to discuss the topic of abortion then you would still deny God whenever I show you certain Scriptures and you.... I mean just about everything you do, you deny it. Classical denial, man !!!! That's you. Not me. Not God. That is you and the devil which is really sad.
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