This is a frightening situation in my area

Jiro said:
because they wasted 12 minutes, the escapees were gone for many days.
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I know you are smarter than this response indicates.

Were they in hot pursuit with speeds exceeding 100 mph?

No.
 
Glenn said:
What is 12 minutes going to matter? The escapees were gone for many days.
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Without the delays, they might have all been caught that same night instead of days later.
 
Glenn said:
I know you are smarter than this response indicates.

Were they in hot pursuit with speeds exceeding 100 mph?

No.
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Every 12 minutes wasted expands the perimeter of the search area by another mile in every direction. That's a lot of area to cover.
 
Reba said:
Without the delays, they might have all been caught that same night instead of days later.
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The delay was created by the police not looking for them instead of sitting at a gate waiting to get into a locked facility. They obviously already knew the patients were missing or they would not have been sitting outside the facility.
 
Reba said:
Every 12 minutes wasted expands the perimeter of the search area by another mile in every direction. That's a lot of area to cover.
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So why did the police waste that 12 minutes they could have spent searching the immediate area?
 
jillio said:
The delay was created by the police not looking for them instead of sitting at a gate waiting to get into a locked facility. They obviously already knew the patients were missing or they would not have been sitting outside the facility.
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At least they put their new stop watch to the test and were happy with it.
 
jillio said:
The delay was created by the police not looking for them instead of sitting at a gate waiting to get into a locked facility. They obviously already knew the patients were missing or they would not have been sitting outside the facility.
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At that point, they didn't even know who they were looking for. They had no descriptions to follow. How can they search for someone that they can't identify?
 
Reba said:
At that point, they didn't even know who they were looking for. They had no descriptions to follow. How can they search for someone that they can't identify?
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Descriptions of missing people are generally given to dispatchers, who then relay that information to the officers. No need for an officer to actually come to a facility to get a description.
 
jillio said:
So why did the police waste that 12 minutes they could have spent searching the immediate area?
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They had no information for the search. They hadn't even been told that the guys actually escaped from that area, rather than be missing by not returning from another area. The police needed a starting point for the search. They weren't even allowed to search the complex at that time to ensure the guys weren't just hiding.
 
jillio said:
Descriptions of missing people are generally given to dispatchers, who then relay that information to the officers. No need for an officer to actually come to a facility to get a description.
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Except the staff DID NOT give descriptions to the dispatchers. That's why the police had to get the descriptions for themselves.
 
Reba said:
They had no information for the search. They hadn't even been told that the guys actually escaped from that area, rather than be missing by not returning from another area. The police needed a starting point for the search. They weren't even allowed to search the complex at that time to ensure the guys weren't just hiding.
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If it was suspected that he was still in the facility or on the grounds, the police would not have been there at all. Their starting point was outside the grounds, not inside.:roll: The local police are not responsible for what is inside the facility. That is handled by staff. If they are hiding inside the facility, staff would handle it, not the police.

And, isn't your whole point of concern that these patients were outside the facility? If they were still inside, what is there to worry about?
 
Looks like some people will create something to worry about just to have the opportunity to worry.
 
Ah well. If these cops got information that someone escaped the facility and kept it to themselves, not allowing the public to know about it, there is no law being broken, and not a darn thing a citizen could do about it, even if one got attacked. *shrug*
 
It would be several minutes before anyone came out to talk with Hardy. And when they did, staff members struggled to provide basic descriptions of the teens and offered no specifics as to why they were being housed at Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health...

Hardy was called to the Midland Parkway center about 6:30 p.m. to check out a report of four young men running away from the facility. Once he got there, he had to wait 12 minutes before anyone came out to meet him.

When he finally met with a staff member, she provided "very vague" information. Staff could not provide a specific location where the four scaled the center's 6-foot wooden fence or a solid time frame for the incident. Hardy was told they ran off while en route to the gym.

Staff also had difficulty providing clothing descriptions for three of the missing youths and had to call over to the nursing station to get height and weight measurements for the teens. Staff did not tell Hardy the teens posed a threat to the community.

At one point, he specifically asked why they had been sent to the center from Washington. "Are they criminal or mental?"

"A little of both," a staff member replied. "They're juveniles sent here because of psychiatric issues and they may have come here because they committed a crime."

The only mention of violence came when a staff member told Hardy one youth had attacked a center worker, police said....
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(From previous post)
 
In the words of the famous bard, "All's well that ends well." Living your life in fear of what might be around the next corner, or what could possibly happen, or what might have happened only limits what you experience from life.
 
Reba said:
See post #317.
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See post #318. Despite all the mistakes you claim to have happened, and all the incompetence you claim by staff, this incident never deserved the sort of attention the media, and some individuals,chose to give it.

And now, it is over.
 
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