This is a frightening situation in my area

[Beowulf]

So the crime of the century is over. The bloodthirsty gang members are back in custody and thank goodness all we have are hearsay to work with.

 

[Bottesini]

So the crime of the century is over. The bloodthirsty gang members are back in custody and thank goodness all we have are hearsay to work with.

What??
Nevermind saw the above article

 

[Glenn]

So the crime of the century is over. The bloodthirsty gang members are back in custody and thank goodness all we have are hearsay to work with.

Awesome.

 

[Reba]

So the crime of the century is over. The bloodthirsty gang members are back in custody and thank goodness all we have are hearsay to work with.

Let's hope there are no more escape incidences to deal with.

What hearsay do you mean? That they escaped? That the woman was beaten? That the staff doesn't cooperate with the police? Those weren't incidences of hearsay.

 

[jillio]

I'm pretty sure the taxpayers in the south are not paying for it: D.C. is. The facilities in the south make a lot of money from the D.C. taxpayers, is how it really breaks down.

You are correct.

 

[jillio]

So the crime of the century is over. The bloodthirsty gang members are back in custody and thank goodness all we have are hearsay to work with.

Basically, hearsay was all there was to work with to begin with. But I can rest easy knowing that these bloodthirsty gang member maniacs are no longer on the loose.

 

[Reba]

Basically, hearsay was all there was to work with to begin with. But I can rest easy knowing that these bloodthirsty gang member maniacs are no longer on the loose.

Since it didn't happen in your neighborhood you could always rest easy.

 

[jillio]

Since it didn't happen in your neighborhood you could always rest easy.

I would have been resting easy had it been in my neighborhood. I don't fall into a panic over rumor and overly excitable reactions.

 

[Banjo]

I would have been resting easy had it been in my neighborhood. I don't fall into a panic over rumor and overly excitable reactions.

Same here.

 

[Reba]

I would have been resting easy had it been in my neighborhood. I don't fall into a panic over rumor and overly excitable reactions.

I don't know that anyone fell into a panic here.

What rumor? You don't believe these things happened? You don't believe that four guys escaped from the center? You don't believe that the woman was beat up by a previous escapee? You don't believe that the staff didn't cooperate with the police?

 

[Glenn]

I would have been resting easy had it been in my neighborhood. I don't fall into a panic over rumor and overly excitable reactions.

Same. I don't see this incidence as a major threat in the scheme of things I encounter on a daily basis.

 

[jillio]

I don't know that anyone fell into a panic here.

What rumor? You don't believe these things happened? You don't believe that four guys escaped from the center? You don't believe that the woman was beat up by a previous escapee? You don't believe that the staff didn't cooperate with the police?

Scroll backthrough the thread. You'll see plenty of rumor and convoluted conclusions.

The woman that was beaten up had virtually nothing to do with the case of the man that was still missing and the topic of the OP. That is convoluted logic that connects that incident with this incident.

No, I don't believe that the staff did not co-operate with the police in every way that they are mandated to.

 

[Reba]

Scroll backthrough the thread. You'll see plenty of rumor and convoluted conclusions.

The woman that was beaten up had virtually nothing to do with the case of the man that was still missing and the topic of the OP. That is convoluted logic that connects that incident with this incident.

It went to the point that was made that the residents at the center were not a danger to any of the outside residents. The number of police calls, and that violent incident show that there is a reason to be concerned about the residents there.

No, I don't believe that the staff did not co-operate with the police in every way that they are mandated to.

The transcript of the police recording shows the time line of slow response by the staff. The police report shows that the staff didn't give full cooperation, and seemed unaware of what was going on with their charges.

Are you saying that the staff was mandated to make the police wait 12 minutes at the gate as they were responding to the center's call?

 

[jillio]

It went to the point that was made that the residents at the center were not a danger to any of the outside residents. The number of police calls, and that violent incident show that there is a reason to be concerned about the residents there.


The transcript of the police recording shows the time line of slow response by the staff. The police report shows that the staff didn't give full cooperation, and seemed unaware of what was going on with their charges.

Are you saying that the staff was mandated to make the police wait 12 minutes at the gate as they were responding to the center's call?

In this case, there was no danger to residents.

What exactly would the police being inside the gate have accomplished? The patient was already outside the gate.

And the time line and the transcript show that the facility fulfilled what they are mandated by law to do.

Continuing to replay all of these what ifs and what fors is simply a residual result to the unnecessary panic that I saw to begin with. It's over. No one was murdered, no one was injured, no one was sexually assaulted. Let it go. Probability played out. All of these unlikely events that create such fear and panic did not happen, nor were they likely to.

 

[Glenn]

It went to the point that was made that the residents at the center were not a danger to any of the outside residents. The number of police calls, and that violent incident show that there is a reason to be concerned about the residents there.


The transcript of the police recording shows the time line of slow response by the staff. The police report shows that the staff didn't give full cooperation, and seemed unaware of what was going on with their charges.

Are you saying that the staff was mandated to make the police wait 12 minutes at the gate as they were responding to the center's call?

What is 12 minutes going to matter? The escapees were gone for many days.

 

[Jiro]

What is 12 minutes going to matter? The escapees were gone for many days.

because they wasted 12 minutes, the escapees were gone for many days.

 

[jillio]

because they wasted 12 minutes, the escapees were gone for many days.

That was 12 minutes waiting to get into the gates of a secure facility AFTER the escapees were already gone. Didn't matter one bit. The escapees were outside the gates, and that is where law enforcement needed to be looking for them, not inside the facility.

But nothing like beating a dead horse.

 

[Reba]

In this case, there was no danger to residents.

How do you know? Did you know what those guys would do? How did anyone know until they were apprehended.

What exactly would the police being inside the gate have accomplished? The patient was already outside the gate.

They could have started searching sooner. They were already delayed by the staff being slow to call them. Then, they keep them hanging out before they can even get a vague description of who was missing. Maybe they could have caught them sooner if they hadn't been delayed.

Of course, if it had been the police who delayed showing up for a call by the center, everyone would blame the police for whatever happened.

And the time line and the transcript show that the facility fulfilled what they are mandated by law to do.

The law mandates them to drag their feet and hold up the search? Interesting law.

Continuing to replay all of these what ifs and what fors is simply a residual result to the unnecessary panic that I saw to begin with. It's over. No one was murdered, no one was injured, no one was sexually assaulted.

This time. Certainly not because of anything the staff did. I should say, despite what the staff did (or didn't do).

Let it go. Probability played out. All of these unlikely events that create such fear and panic did not happen, nor were they likely to.

Until the next escape happens.

 

[Beowulf]

That was 12 minutes waiting to get into the gates of a secure facility AFTER the escapees were already gone. Didn't matter one bit. The escapees were outside the gates, and that is where law enforcement needed to be looking for them, not inside the facility.

But nothing like beating a dead horse.

Maybe they wanted to check under the beds.

 

[Reba]

That was 12 minutes waiting to get into the gates of a secure facility AFTER the escapees were already gone. Didn't matter one bit. The escapees were outside the gates, and that is where law enforcement needed to be looking for them, not inside the facility....

Obviously you don't know much about search procedures. A lot can happen in 12 minutes during a police call. At the very least, the guys could have run at least one mile during that time.