The horrors of Che....and Castro

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juaNFql2Oaw]YouTube - Worker, 1962, Che Guevara, Translated.[/ame]

Volunteerism as essential and required, etc, etc,
 
Why is this thread placed under General Chat? lol

Too many people make an idol out of Guevara. That's how the myth is born. Sure, the image of Guevara is common in Argentina, Uruguay, Costa Rica, and Cuba, of course. I know he was the voice of the working class. He also helped training the Tupamaros in Uruguay.

I see two big differences between Washington and Guevara. Washington did not like the death that was necessary of war while Guevara was willing to slaughter for his cause. Che often described the killings in his own writing. Ugh.
 
I've seen passages of it.

Here's Slate's:

The cult of Ernesto Che Guevara is an episode in the moral callousness of our time. Che was a totalitarian. He achieved nothing but disaster. Many of the early leaders of the Cuban Revolution favored a democratic or democratic-socialist direction for the new Cuba. But Che was a mainstay of the hardline pro-Soviet faction, and his faction won. Che presided over the Cuban Revolution's first firing squads. He founded Cuba's "labor camp" system—the system that was eventually employed to incarcerate gays, dissidents, and AIDS victims. To get himself killed, and to get a lot of other people killed, was central to Che's imagination. In the famous essay in which he issued his ringing call for "two, three, many Vietnams," he also spoke about martyrdom and managed to compose a number of chilling phrases: "Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine. This is what our soldiers must become …"— and so on. He was killed in Bolivia in 1967, leading a guerrilla movement that had failed to enlist a single Bolivian peasant. And yet he succeeded in inspiring tens of thousands of middle class Latin-Americans to exit the universities and organize guerrilla insurgencies of their own. And these insurgencies likewise accomplished nothing, except to bring about the death of hundreds of thousands, and to set back the cause of Latin-American democracy—a tragedy on the hugest scale.
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Should we love Che Guevara? - By Paul Berman - Slate Magazine
 
Jiro said:
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I think I found him
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I literally almost spit out my juice when I saw this :rofl2:
 
I have read that old article from Slate when the Motorcycle Diaries came out.

Guevara had achieved Pop icon status. Many believe him to be the hero know a little about this man. They are acquainted only with the mythic status. To many Latin Americans, Guevara is the hero that they would like to see- he refuses to bow before a corrupt government and takes matters into his own hands to bring about sort of order- ya know.

It's been a long while since I read his diaries and some of the writings from biography books of Che. I forgot most of them. According to one of the books, he was in the early 20s or so when he met blacks for the first time. He made bad remarks toward black people. He was a changed man later, and he denounced the racism. That was before he became Che. He even had a personal bodyguard, Pombo who was black. He joined Che to the Congo to fight white South African mercenaries of Apartheid. That's why Nelson bow before Che. He even criticized the US for discrimination against black people in the 60s.

When that the Motorcycle Diaries came out, many chose to not watch it. At the time of the Diaries, he was not the communist he later turned out to be. He was lefty socialite. Many people ask that to make a point that the question of whether or not a movie of Mein Kampf should be made.

Many people will continue to disregard Che's later life and chose to hold on to the vision- a rebel who stood for the people.
 
Dang. I thought the US Marines ambushed and killed Che, and when I googled to confirm that, I ran into viruses. Fortunately, my Nod32 antivirus program blocked and deleted them. So I will leave that question to the ages. :lol:
 
Beowulf said:
Dang. I thought the US Marines ambushed and killed Che, and when I googled to confirm that, I ran into viruses. Fortunately, my Nod32 antivirus program blocked and deleted them. So I will leave that question to the ages. :lol:
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What is it with you and computers? :lol:
 
Barbaro said:
I have read that old article from Slate when the Motorcycle Diaries came out.

Guevara had achieved Pop icon status. Many believe him to be the hero know a little about this man. They are acquainted only with the mythic status. To many Latin Americans, Guevara is the hero that they would like to see- he refuses to bow before a corrupt government and takes matters into his own hands to bring about sort of order- ya know.

It's been a long while since I read his diaries and some of the writings from biography books of Che. I forgot most of them. According to one of the books, he was in the early 20s or so when he met blacks for the first time. He made bad remarks toward black people. He was a changed man later, and he denounced the racism. That was before he became Che. He even had a personal bodyguard, Pombo who was black. He joined Che to the Congo to fight white South African mercenaries of Apartheid. That's why Nelson bow before Che. He even criticized the US for discrimination against black people in the 60s.

When that the Motorcycle Diaries came out, many chose to not watch it. At the time of the Diaries, he was not the communist he later turned out to be. He was lefty socialite. Many people ask that to make a point that the question of whether or not a movie of Mein Kampf should be made.

Many people will continue to disregard Che's later life and chose to hold on to the vision- a rebel who stood for the people.
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Ding, ding, ding. This girl got it.
 
kokonut said:
Obama? This is about Che and how people idolize him like he's George Washington or something.
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Come on KoKo. We all know that every thread you start and every post you make has denigration of Obama as it's motive.:laugh2:

Far too late for the "Who? Me?" brand of innocence.:lol:
 
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