The 91-Year-Old Woman Selling Suicide Kits

Buffalo said:
Nick bought the kit last June so he had been thinking about sucide for awhile. Or he had some trouble locating some helium.
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Suggests the presence of a chronic illness.
 
Reba said:
The ones who I knew had no chronic illnesses.

On the other hand, I do know people with chronic and terminal illnesses, and they don't consider suicide as an option.
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How do you know that for a fact? Just because they haven't actively attempted a suicide doesn't mean that they haven't considered it as an option.:cool2:
 
jillio said:
How do you know that for a fact? Just because they haven't actively attempted a suicide doesn't mean that they haven't considered it as an option.:cool2:
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Because we talk.
 
Reba said:
Because we talk.
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Oh, I see. And they tell you absolutely everything, right.

Do you know that those who are seriously considering suicide, and are intent on completion, do not tell anyone about their plans? What makes you think that the people you know would be any different?
 
Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean-favoured and imperially slim.

And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
"Good Morning!" and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich, yes, richer than a king,
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine -- we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked and waited for the light,
And went without the meat and cursed the bread,
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet in his head
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Edwin Arlington Robinson 1869 - 1935
 
jillio said:
Oh, I see. And they tell you absolutely everything, right.

Do you know that those who are seriously considering suicide, and are intent on completion, do not tell anyone about their plans? What makes you think that the people you know would be any different?
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You're right, they aren't different. They're all on the verge of suicide. Everyone with a chronic disease is suicidal, so we shouldn't even try to talk them out of it. I'll go order a gross of the suicide kits and send them to all my sick friends.
 
all i am saying is stop feeling sorry for the people who kill themselves, if you dont know how they feel its not fair to push "your selfish or weak" card because one doesn't agree with it. If you want to kill yourself, honestly, you dont tell anyone and you do it. it is kinda selfish to try to keep someone on earth because you dont want to grieve for them, if u can see the pain behind there eyes i have a feeling this would be a very different opinion.
 
Reba said:
You're right, they aren't different. They're all on the verge of suicide. Everyone with a chronic disease is suicidal, so we shouldn't even try to talk them out of it. I'll go order a gross of the suicide kits and send them to all my sick friends.
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What is it with your need to put everyone inside of a little box? Does categorizing people in a dichotomous way make you feel that your world is safer and more in control?
 
jillio said:
What is it with your need to put everyone inside of a little box? Does categorizing people in a dichotomous way make you feel that your world is safer and more in control?
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What is your need to analyze and judge everyone's motives for things they post?
 
qawaearata said:
all i am saying is stop feeling sorry for the people who kill themselves, if you dont know how they feel its not fair to push "your selfish or weak" card because one doesn't agree with it. If you want to kill yourself, honestly, you dont tell anyone and you do it. it is kinda selfish to try to keep someone on earth because you dont want to grieve for them, if u can see the pain behind there eyes i have a feeling this would be a very different opinion.
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I feel sorry for the people they leave behind.

Sadly, too, suicide doesn't always put an end to pain.
 
Buffalo said:
I don't know how you found those interesting stuff!
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My father loved poetry and had me read a lot of it.
Reba said:
I remember the Simon & Garfunkel song version.
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There is something I did not know about.

jillio said:
:ty: Thank you Bott. A very moving illustration of the fact that people who consider, attempt, or complete suicide cannot be stereotyped or pigeon holed.
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My father suffered depression and that poem was his favorite. I think it helped keep him grounded in a way.
 
Bottesini said:
My father loved poetry and had me read a lot of it.

There is something I did not know about.



My father suffered depression and that poem was his favorite. I think it helped keep him grounded in a way.
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I'm sure it did help keep him grounded. Depression is an insidious illness. I think its great that he shared that piece with you. No doubt, it helped you empathize more with what he went through with his depression.
 
positive reinforcment is always a great thing, i know it hurts a lot of people as well, but if you see they would rather not be living then why would you force them to stay, im not saying do not try anything to talk about it.
 
Bottesini said:
There is something I did not know about.
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Paul Simon: Richard Cory Lyrics

They say that Richard Cory owns one half of this whole town
with political connections to spread his wealth around
born into society a banker's only child
He had everything a man could want power, grace and style
But I work in his factory and I curse the life I'm living
and I curse my poverty and I wish that I could be
Oh I wish that I could be, Oh I wish that I could be Richard Cory

The papers print his picture almost everywhere he goes
Richard Cory at the opera, Richard Cory at a show
and the rumor of his parties and the orgies on his yacht
oh he surely must be happy with everything he's got
But I, I work in his factory and I curse the life I'm living
and I curse my poverty and I wish that I could be
Oh I wish that I could be, Oh I wish that I could be Richard Cory

He freely gave to charity, he had the common touch
and they were grateful for his patronage and they thanked him very much
so my mind was filled with wonder when the evening headlines read,
"Richard Cory went home last night and put a bullet through his head."
But I, I work in his factory and I curse the life I'm living
and I curse my poverty and I wish that I could be
Oh I wish that I could be, Oh I wish that I could be Richard Cory

PAUL SIMON - RICHARD CORY LYRICS
 
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