Taxes Used to Build Noah's Ark Theme Park

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Look at the Near East, every cultures inherited a similar account, regardless of religions. The man, Noah, has different names, different statuses, different survival technique in each of the retellings. Look at the Gigamesh as a starting point. Many accounts in the Old Testament often have similar versions in other nearby cultures in the Middle East.
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That's because other cultures and religions took the original stories of the Old Testament and twisted them to fit their own perspectives.

But these accounts didn't exist in Central Asia, South Asia or in the Far East. This alone tells us whatever happened at the time of Noah's Ark was a regional flooding occurring in Sumer region. You don't even need science to deduce the event probably took place on a flood plains in Mesopotamia.
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A worldwide flood would have wiped out all the people of Central Asia, South Asia, and the Far East, the same as it did the rest of the world. As the world repopulated, starting from the Middle East area, the people spread out in all directions. Those who moved further away probably didn't all maintain as much of the oral history. That doesn't mean the Flood didn't happen. It just means they didn't preserve remembrance of it.

Any flood, to the people who experience it, is "local." When it's your home and village that is disappearing under water, you don't worry about what's happening in other countries at that time.

It would take someone with God's perspective at that time to know that the Flood was worldwide.
 
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Huh? How can ancient cultures <I>steal</i> stories from the Old Testament if they predate the written documents. All it proves is the flood did happen. The tricky part is the whole "which culture experienced it first," since the tales were passed down orally until they were written down-- kind of like the conflict between "which came first, the corgi or the vallhund?" during my current research.


The multiple accounts are no different than a dozen of American Indian tribes having the same oral tradition, but the important figures have different backgrounds, different names, but still the s
ame events.

India and China are much older than Cradle as well, so it's obvious they didn't get wiped out.
 
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souggy said:
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Huh? How can ancient cultures <I>steal</i> stories from the Old Testament if they predate the written documents.
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Oral histories can also be adapted to fit other cultures and beliefs, prior to writing them down.

That is, the oral histories of the repopulating cultures started with the original Genesis story of the Flood. As people separated out and developed new cultures and religions, they adapted their versions of the history, which deviated from the original. Moses wrote down the original historical events, which became the book of Genesis in the Old Testament. Some of the other cultures wrote down their versions.

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't mean they adapted the printed version of the Genesis Flood.

India and China are much older than the oldest account of the flood as well, so it's obvious they didn't get wiped out.
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Older than the time Moses wrote down the accounts of the Flood, or older than the occurrence of the Flood? As civilizations uninterrupted by the Flood, or a resurgence of the population after the Flood happened?
 
Oh, ouch, you caught me inbetween the edits.

Reba said:
Oral histories can also be adapted to fit other cultures and beliefs, prior to writing them down.

That is, the oral histories of the repopulating cultures started with the original Genesis story of the Flood. As people separated out and developed new cultures and religions, they adapted their versions of the history, which deviated from the original. Moses wrote down the original historical events, which became the book of Genesis in the Old Testament. Some of the other cultures wrote down their versions.
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So we're at a stand still, we can't prove Moses' version is the real gem, or it's an interpretation of another culture's retelling. It doesn't means the Biblical story is not true or canon, just one has to be mindful of the way humans behave.

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't mean they adapted the printed version of the Genesis Flood.
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That's my point, how can it be "stealing" if no one can prove who was the first one to witness it? All we have are written accounts based on oral retellings. All we have is something uncanny: a bunch of records that all point to the same thing, few details missing or added, and no one unable to verify which was the original account.

Older than the time Moses wrote down the accounts of the Flood, or older than the occurrence of the Flood? As civilizations uninterrupted by the Flood, or a resurgence of the population after the Flood happened?
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Older than the founding civilization in the Middle East.
 
We are finding traces of civilizations that predate history and I suspect it will be endless. We are a lot older than we think.
 
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Floods are very COMMON events so it's NOT surprising that ancient myths have flood stories. Myths ALWAYS say that their gods were angry at them for their sins or whatever. They didn't know what caused floods.. they were living with assumptions that the whole world is operated by their gods and if they see disasters believe that they were punished.
 
I read somewhere (maybe a book of trivia) that if the lands (both above water and under water) were flatten, it would be 2 miles under water.
 
The flooding is coming so where is Noah's Ark? :Ohno:
 
Kentucky's Governor Steve Beshear signed on to the plan after describing it as a "lifeboat for his struggling state", because it promises "almost $40 million in tax breaks for a project that is expected to create 900 jobs"

It is the TAX INCENTIVES, actually.

That's the difference they overlooked. Realize that it benefits both state and AIG and that state taxes will be generated by those 900 employees working in real time. They do not take any money out of state budget, eventually.
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souggy said:
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Huh? How can ancient cultures <I>steal</i> stories from the Old Testament if they predate the written documents. All it proves is the flood did happen. The tricky part is the whole "which culture experienced it first," since the tales were passed down orally until they were written down-- kind of like the conflict between "which came first, the corgi or the vallhund?" during my current research.


The multiple accounts are no different than a dozen of American Indian tribes having the same oral tradition, but the important figures have different backgrounds, different names, but still the s
ame events.

India and China are much older than Cradle as well, so it's obvious they didn't get wiped out.
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Have you guys read the book, 'Noah's Flood: The New Scientific Discoveries About The Event That Changed History'?

The (geologists) authors claim they have found evidence of a flooding event that may match the Flood story.

If you took geology 101 and 102, then you would understand this book,' cause it is very technical.
 
I find it interesting that the Biblical timeline for the great deluge contradicts the radio carbon dating of the Egyptian Sphinx.

:hmm: Let's see ... Sphinx is commonly thought to have been built in c. 2558–2532 BC (and more modern carbon dating methods suggest it was built even before that, by several thousands of years).

The Pyramids even pre-date the Biblical timeline for the great deluge ... how is THAT possible?

I am not saying there was never a great flood, because there is scientific evidence that there was (seafaring fossils on top of mountains), but I think someone somewhere may be "embellishing" a little bit.
 
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I find it interesting that the Biblical timeline for the great deluge contradicts the radio carbon dating of the Egyptian Sphinx.

:hmm: Let's see ... Sphinx is commonly thought to have been built in c. 2558–2532 BC (and more modern carbon dating methods suggest it was built even before that, by several thousands of years).

The Pyramids even pre-date the Biblical timeline for the great deluge ... how is THAT possible?

I am not saying there was never a great flood, because there is scientific evidence that there was (seafaring fossils on top of mountains), but I think someone somewhere may be "embellishing" a little bit.
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did you know there's a huge misconception about radiocarbon dating? It is not accurate at all especially when it comes to analyzing a "relic". Did you know that radiocarbon dating has to be calibrated in order to take into account of several factors when setting the dating scale such as atmospheric conditions, Earth's climate, speleothem, etc?

For heaven's sake... you're talking about over 4,500 years ago. There's quite a margin of error there when it comes to radiocarbon dating. We have absolutely no idea what the condition was like during that time.

This is a very well-known issue.... very chemistry 101 and earth science 101. plus - did you know that radiocarbon dating aka Carbon-14 Dating is commonly used on organic material? it's not reliable when it comes to inorganic material such as rock.
 
Jiro said:
did you know there's a huge misconception about radiocarbon dating? It is not accurate at all especially when it comes to analyzing a "relic". Did you know that radiocarbon dating has to be calibrated in order to take into account of several factors when setting the dating scale such as atmospheric conditions, Earth's climate, speleothem, etc?

For heaven's sake... you're talking about over 4,500 years ago. There's quite a margin of error there when it comes to radiocarbon dating. We have absolutely no idea what the condition was like during that time.

This is a very well-known issue.... very chemistry 101 and earth science 101. plus - did you know that radiocarbon dating aka Carbon-14 Dating is commonly used on organic material? it's not reliable when it comes to inorganic material such as rock.
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Any truth to carbon-14 dating a LIVE mollusk and come up with thousands of years old?
 
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