Taser use on deaf man defended

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Taser use on deaf man defended

To Seattle police, it was a near-perfect use of a Taser -- subduing a man whose behavior might have forced a more violent confrontation, even a shooting, without the less lethal option.

To Bob Ross' friends, his being electrically stunned last month was an excessive use of force brought on, they believe, because he is deaf and did not hear the officer's commands.

"It was one of those things that obviously got out of hand," said Jim Lunz, owner of Seattle Pottery Supply and Ross' boss for the past 29 years.

It was a situation that might have been avoided, Ross' friends say, if police were able to recognize the disabled, learning even a basic sign such as the one asking a person's name.

Ross' guardians at Guardianship Services of Seattle are contacting an advocacy group for the disabled, hoping they will work to prevent another situation like the one experienced by the 56-year-old Ross.

"We just want to make sure that this doesn't happen to anybody else again," said Sacha Davis with Guardianship Services. "This isn't the first time that somebody with a disability was mistaken for somebody who was committing a crime."

The department will examine whether training needs to be enhanced, but the officer's Taser use in this case was entirely appropriate, said assistant Seattle police Chief Clark Kimerer. He oversees the department's "less lethal" program, which includes Tasers, beanbag shotguns and training officers in defusing volatile situations.

"It strikes me that most officers, when confronted with that situation, would probably take similar action," Kimerer said. "The officer was in uniform, the facts about the subject's hearing disability were not known to her. She was reacting to behavior which was very troubling and threatening and needed to be dealt with."

According to police reports, the confrontation began just before 8 a.m. on July 29 at the business on South Hanford Street.

Officer Yvonne Tovar saw a man pushing the front door, apparently trying to get in. She noted in her report that the man "attempted to hide behind a large planter."

Lunz said Ross sometimes sits on the ledge of the planters on either side of the entrance when he arrives early and it could appear he was hiding.

The officer drew her gun and ordered Ross away from the door. He ignored her.

When he did come out from behind the plants, Ross was carrying wooden dowels for use in making pots.

Tovar ordered Ross to drop the sticks, but he did not respond.

She radioed for backup just as Ross "began to raise the sticks and come toward me in a quick pace," according to her report.

Tovar holstered her gun and drew her Taser, firing when Ross continued to approach her.

The two Taser darts, attached to wires that deliver a 50,000-volt shock, struck Ross in the chest and abdomen, but he yanked them out and ran.

Tovar gave chase, loaded a fresh cartridge in her Taser, and fired again, this time hitting him in the chest and thigh. Again, Ross pulled out the darts and continued to run.

The officer loaded another cartridge, fired again and hit Ross in the front.

Just then, Officer Donald Leslie arrived. He also shot his Taser, and this time Ross went down.

But he continued to fight, grabbing handfuls of gravel and throwing them at the officers.

Two more officers arrived and all four were able to restrain Ross, Leslie using gestures to calm the agitated man.

Sarah Takahashi arrived at work that morning and found her friend strapped to a gurney.

"I thought he must have been hit by a car," she said.

After speaking with police she learned they hadn't realized he is deaf.

Ross, she said, "was very gray and nervous."

He was wrapped in a blanket, there was a bandage on his back and his shirt was bloody and stained with dirt.

The police, especially Tovar, seemed upset, she said.

"She said she just felt sick," Takahashi said. "She felt horrible."

Police initially considered arresting Ross for investigation of assault and obstruction, until they realized he was disabled.

Supervisors agreed that the use of force was correct.

"The officers had no way of knowing the suspect was deaf and mute and the suspect apparently was unable to communicate that to the officers," one supervisor wrote in a review. "The suspect could have avoided this confrontation by remaining calm and still."

But Davis and others believe police also could have handled the matter better.

"There was just too much, too much force," she said.
 
Deaf is invisible handicap, why can't he tell them in sign language he is deaf?:rl:
 
Supervisors agreed that the use of force was correct.
I GURANTEE YOU IF THE COPS DID THIS TO A BLACK MAN THE CITY WOULD RIOT!!! Didnt They ever Learn from Rodney King? The Blacks Burned half the city down when thery heard the officers were found not guilty


THIS IS WHY WE HAVE LAWYERS! Not I hope he sues the hell outta her.Im sure the Jury will Award him with with 10 million at least.It will make the cop a very poor bitch when she leaves that court room.
 
I didn't know about the news until just now. That was very cruel!
 
Teach officers to recognize a person signing their own names? I don't think that will really work. Spoken and signed names are different. Bob is "Bob" in voice. However, Bob is probably signed differently depending on that person's personality. What if this particular Bob had his own sign and this sign was considered offensive to the police?
 
Didnt They ever Learn from Rodney King? The Blacks Burned half the city down when thery heard the officers were found not guilty

Steve, will you stop going on and on about that clown? It's getting tiring. :roll:
 
Deaf people need going in protest against police because they hurt deaf people for no reason.
 
A guy approaches an officer, doesn't respond when spoken to, "holds up sticks" (possibly the officer is concerned about an attack?) and then runs away? That is behavior that would make a lot of cops nervous.

And as someone else pointed out on LJ, it appears that he was developmentally disabled (at least, that's suggested by the bit about his guardians). Still a bad situation, but it might explain why he didn't do any of the obvious things (empty his hands, sign *something* to the officer, not run).
 
wow.. sound like the guy is slow why else they said his guardian? obivously he's slow and doesnt understand how things worked? etc.. so how was he suppose to know? maybe the pottery place he work there and it was closed.. so he got annoyed and frustrated not knowing what to do?? i dont know.. must have reasons why he did that.. but still he should have remanined calm and pointed to his ear meaning cant hear??? thats what i always say to cops.. i cant hear showing them my hearing aid.. they said ok.

still so sad to hear that they used taser on him.. wondering what hes going thru especially his mind at time? freaked. dang
 
Deaf people need going in protest against police because they hurt deaf people for no reason.
Who said it was for no good reason? He appeared to be threatening, so the police responded in a typical manner.

Just because you're deaf doesn't mean you can do what you want. I've seen deaf people make noise (sign loudly, smacking mouths, using voice, etc) in quiet places like in the dorm halls at 3 am, in the computer lab, in the libary, etc. When they are told that they are making noise and asked to be quiet, they will respond... "We're deaf." and continue with making noises.

Well, if you're deaf and usually make wild gestures... learn to understand what others are also thinking. If you go to another country, you might do something that seems harmless to yourself... but is offensive to others.
 
yeah.. remind me of one girl.. she kept making noises.. grinding her teeth.. teachers, houseparents and others kept telling her to stop.. she said im not making nay noises?? they said yes you aRE! she said no you lied lied.. she doesnt believe them that she does make noises.. she cant tell cuz shes full deaf?? sigh.. its real annoyed to hear her grinding.. UGHHHHHHH..
 
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