Social Security to start cashing Uncle Sam's IOUs

[Foxrac]

I know plenty of people who aren't intelligent that did just that... Because they didn't know about social security.

If they can, anyone can, including you.

Don't say "you dont even know me."

Who cares about intelligent so it is my way to do because I chose it.

I was very overloaded in college at first time, especially bad struggle with english and reading, also I have alot of math and CIS assignments so I got very bad stress at job in last Jan so I decided to quit because I couldn't handle any stress to have job and full time student at same time because college is different from high school. I do have history about mental illness, especially OCD and stress so my therapist recommended me to focus on education so I don't need any help or suggestion from any of you, period.

 

[Tousi]

Again that is not what SSI is for. SSI is emergengy support for people who are in need. It's for the poorest of the poor who can't get a job. Not for people who want to quit work so they can study. Going to college full time is a WANT not a NEED.

TXG, was even this in the original document?

 

[Foxrac]

Again that is not what SSI is for. SSI is emergengy support for people who are in need. It's for the poorest of the poor who can't get a job. Not for people who want to quit work so they can study. Going to college full time is a WANT not a NEED.

No, I need SSI to survive because I have pay gas, rent, food, phone bill and other expenses so I can't work and be full time student at same time because it was very overloaded and stress.

I need to be college student because future job that I want require college major so I couldn't work in hard labor anymore due illness and have problem with stomach so have little spend on hard labor isn't make enough money.

It is just my choice whatever I want, I don't need you or anyone to help.

 

[TXgolfer]

TXG, was even this in the original document?

No SSI wasn't included or planned. But even as plan it wasn't intended for this.

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a Federal income supplement program funded by general tax revenues (not Social Security taxes):


It is designed to help aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income; and

It provides cash to meet basic needs for food, clothing, and shelter

 

[Jiro]

Sorry but that is not the purpose of SSI.

Actually yes. Foxrac has a disability... therefore he qualifies for it.

The federal government provides student loans. Those who can't get loans should consider a lesser study load.

Federal & state student loan is mainly for tuition. beside - he has already paid tax when working for wal-mart. SSI is not permanent. I support this because he will eventually pay tax back by graduating school and getting a salary.

sheesh ya'all.... so quick and easy to start pointing finger at hindsight :roll:

just be glad that Foxrac's not like one of those good-for-nothing bum who suckle on it every chance he/she can with ill intention.

 

[TXgolfer]

Actually yes. Foxrac has a disability... therefore he qualifies for it.


Federal & state student loan is mainly for tuition. beside - he has already paid tax when working for wal-mart. SSI is not permanent. I support this because he will eventually pay tax back by graduating school and getting a salary.

sheesh ya'all.... so quick and easy to start pointing finger at hindsight :roll:

just be glad that Foxrac's not like one of those good-for-nothing bum who suckle on it every chance he/she can with ill intention.

Disability or not....SSI was never intended as a way for working people to quit their jobs and go to school.

Stafford and Perkins loans can be used for living expenses as well. Even a Pell grant can be used if there is any left over from tuition and books.

 

[Foxrac]

Disability or not....SSI was never intended as a way for working people to quit their jobs and go to school.

Stafford and Perkins loans can be used for living expenses as well. Even a Pell grant can be used if there is any left over from tuition and books.

Argument about SSI issues and my issues are over, enough with it.

It is just my choice, period, not you or others.

Back on topic about Social Security issues, not SSI or me.

 

[TXgolfer]

BTW, it may sound like I was jumping on Foxrac but I wasn't. It's the premise. When we start expanding the definition of what programs are to provide for, those programs become more expensive. It took me extra time to graduate due to work. Takes alot of people extra time. For those who want to graduate quicker there are loans. But when we start paying out of other programs those programs fail.

 

[TXgolfer]

Argument about SSI issues and my issues are over, enough with it.

It is just my choice, period, not you or others.

Back on topic about Social Security issues, not SSI or me.

It's not about you. Never was. It's the premise. I am sure many people do the same thing

 

[jillio]

Yes, many people do the same. Actually, the SSI benefits are intended to temporarily assist with financial support while the disabled individual trains for work, gets the education necessary to qualify for a job, or searches for a job. The premise behind it is, the more well trained the individual is, the higher paying job they will qualify for, and the more they will be paying into the system after the educational level has been reached.

 

[Tousi]

We have been talking about how these things were not intended/included in the original ACt.

 

[Jiro]

Another solution would have been to take a lighter class load and continue to work.

sure we could do that but then - isn't it better to finish school within a short time so that one can get a highly-trained/highly-skilled job that will eventually pay back in taxes quickly? isn't that better than waiting long time for one to start paying taxes back?

 

[jillio]

sure we could do that but then - isn't it better to finish school within a short time so that one can get a highly-trained/highly-skilled job that will eventually pay back in taxes quickly? isn't that better than waiting long time for one to start paying taxes back?

That's the premise.

 

[Jiro]

We have been talking about how these things were not intended/included in the original ACt.

Remind us - what's the original act?

 

[Tousi]

sure we could do that but then - isn't it better to finish school within a short time so that one can get a highly-trained/highly-skilled job that will eventually pay back in taxes quickly? isn't that better than waiting long time for one to start paying taxes back?

I really don't want to argue that; we all know those things are there for people and it is their right to partake of them; what I'm talking about is the original intent/purpose of the Act and the reason it is on the brink now is because of a shrinking workforce contributing to it AND these other freebies which should have been provided via another law instead of taking from the SSA....the math just isn't there!

 

[Foxrac]

It's not about you. Never was. It's the premise. I am sure many people do the same thing

Oh okay, I know that every people are different about how could handle with school and job at same time, even I never feel like it is excuse to do because I don't want fail the classes to waste of my money so I prefer to focus on education, including some of spare time that I need, that what is recommended by my therapist. I only can find job that related to computer because I can't work in hard labor for many hours anymore due problem with my stomach since last year so education is required to get job in computer related.

 

[Tousi]

Remind us - what's the original act?

TXGolfer has put it up more than once, I believe.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

sure we could do that but then - isn't it better to finish school within a short time so that one can get a highly-trained/highly-skilled job that will eventually pay back in taxes quickly? isn't that better than waiting long time for one to start paying taxes back?

Like you told me... when I started questioning wheither or not I should accept subsidized government funding:

DON'T QUESTION YOUR WAR TAXES!


Still indecisive about it all though.

 

[TXgolfer]

Yes, many people do the same. Actually, the SSI benefits are intended to temporarily assist with financial support while the disabled individual trains for work, gets the education necessary to qualify for a job, or searches for a job. The premise behind it is, the more well trained the individual is, the higher paying job they will qualify for, and the more they will be paying into the system after the educational level has been reached.

But. do you think when the program was designed they intended for people to quit their jobs to accept it?. SSI provides a benefit for those who work as well. It is just reduced.

I am all for people going to college. I think that is great. But....

 

[jillio]

But. do you think when the program was designed they intended for people to quit their jobs to accept it?. SSI provides a benefit for those who work as well. It is just reduced.

I am all for people going to college. I think that is great. But....

Society wasn't the same when the act was created. It served the purpose for society's needs at that time. But, needs and society are ever changing, and programs are ever expanding as a result.

Back when the act was created, the majority of people with a disability that would qualify for SSI (significant impairment in daily functioning) were cared for by family members when they could not find work.