so what are the effects for me now?

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It's just coincidence though.....or is it:hmm:

Name one other superpower we have in the world. Perhaps, China, but even then we don't even consider them a superpower yet.

The world has always revolved around competition between two tribes, two kingdoms, two empires, two nations and so on.
 
Name one other superpower we have in the world. Perhaps, China, but even then we don't even consider them a superpower yet.

The world has always revolved around competition between two tribes, two kingdoms, two empires, two nations and so on.

I agree with you......it was sarcasm. I think alot of the theory revolved around defense and fear spending and that part is FAIL, but I agree with the competition part. I also think the cold war gave a clear boundary....the image of our enemy was not something we wanted to duplicate. Without that image as a reminder we have moved into areas that before seemed repulsive. :dunno:
 
I am LOL'ing so hard... so you interpret my "I am leaving the country" as like leaving for good? If so, why can't you say the same for Rush?

hahahahaha LOL!
 
I agree with you......it was sarcasm. I think alot of the theory revolved around defense and fear spending and that part is FAIL, but I agree with the competition part. I also think the cold war gave a clear boundary....the image of our enemy was not something we wanted to duplicate. Without that image as a reminder we have moved into areas that before seemed repulsive. :dunno:

I know it was sarcasm. I just wanted to expand.

:lol:

Too bad a revival of the Marshall Plan won't help us now.
 
I am LOL'ing so hard... so you interpret my "I am leaving the country" as like leaving for good? If so, why can't you say the same for Rush?

hahahahaha LOL!

Rush was clear in his statement.........The transcript was posted
 
I am LOL'ing so hard... so you interpret my "I am leaving the country" as like leaving for good? If so, why can't you say the same for Rush?

hahahahaha LOL!

Considering how people fled the States in response to the Iraq War, you never know.
 
I am LOL'ing so hard... so you interpret my "I am leaving the country" as like leaving for good? If so, why can't you say the same for Rush?

hahahahaha LOL!

All he said was, "Promise?"
 
I know it was sarcasm. I just wanted to expand.

:lol:

Too bad a revival of the Marshall Plan won't help us now.

Are you a poliSci major or just a buff? Just curious
 
:hmm: wonder if my health care will be free since I have no income......I don't see anything about possessions.....

:evil:
 
Txgolfer, demand that you get free health insurance cover now. Why wait til 2014, it might be too late for you by then. You on a gurney already because of no health care.
 
History.

Focus was on colonial Latin America, but we needed to know American history to understand the sphere of influence over Central and South Americas.

Ah cool.
 
Txgolfer, demand that you get free health insurance cover now. Why wait til 2014, it might be too late for you by then. You on a gurney already because of no health care.

I will.....I am working on my SSDI too:lol:

My Barnes and Noble read last night was government programs.....I am going to apply for everything I can and then write a book about it. Got alot of books to write........whew
 
I will.....I am working on my SSDI too:lol:

My Barnes and Noble read last night was government programs.....I am going to apply for everything I can and then write a book about it. Got alot of books to write........whew

I am not sure if you saw my thread... on government programs?
 
Who Benefits if a New Healthcare Plan is Passed Into Law?
Assuming the new healthcare reform bill does in fact become law over the next several days, cui bono? Who will reap real-world, tangible benefits from the new legislation?

Americans appear to have an answer to this question: The pending healthcare legislation is the functional equivalent of a Medicaid bill. The legislation will help the poor and those who currently don’t have health insurance, but at the cost of a net negative impact for most other groups affected.

This conclusion comes from the remarkable findings of Wednesday Gallup polling. The survey question asked Americans if the “bill now being considered in Congress” would make things better or worse for a list of 10 different entities.

Results: Only two entities would gain more than they lose if the healthcare legislation now being considered in Congress is passed into law. These are:
Americans who do not have health insurance
Lower income families
All other entities tested are perceived by John and Jane Doe out there across America as being net losers from the passage of the new bill.
Americans say they themselves (“you and your family”) will be worse off rather than better off by a 37% to 28% margin if the bill passes. The United States as a whole will be worse off rather than better off by a 44% to 39% margin. Middle-income families will be worse off rather than better off by a 44% to 34% margin.

The fact that Americans believe the poor and those without insurance would benefit probably is not particularly surprising to those pushing for passage of the bill.

President Obama has made some efforts to convince Americans who already have health insurance that they too will benefit from the bill. But he has focused of late directly on those who are out of the system.

Case in point. Obama’s recent speech in Ohio focused on the emotional plight of a woman named Natoma, who has cancer, is self-employed and can no longer afford health insurance. According to the account on the White House Web site, Notama recently collapsed with a recurrence of cancer and “Natoma and her family are struggling to determine how they will afford Natoma’s medical treatment now that she no longer has insurance, which she dropped in January 2010 because of rate hikes that simply made insurance unaffordable.” Obama was introduced by Natoma’s sister at the speech.

Other supporters of the bill similarly focus mainly on the centrality of the eleemosynary mission of the bill. Politico quotes Congresswoman Barbara Lee of California as saying “. . . there’s no argument [for the healthcare bill] beyond the moral imperative,” and that “This is about the 47 million people who don’t have health insurance.”

The data suggest that the majority of Americans would agree with Lee’s orientation. In addition to this week’s poll results, we have also found that the top explanations given by those who support the bill are along these lines: it will help the unfortunate who have been left adrift health insurance wise.

These data are relevant to the next stage of the healthcare drama. Obama and the Democrats, assuming that the bill passes into law, will now shift to a position of reinforcing the virtues of this major legislative action.

If they want to build off of existing perceptions, they should primarily focus on the fact that the new law will help the less fortunate. To argue that the bill is good for all would run to a degree against existing attitudes. About 83% of Americans have health insurance and most Americans do not consider themselves to be lower income. As a result, as noted, most Americans do not currently believe that they would benefit from the bill. (Obama and the Democrats could argue, of course, that "there but for the grace of God, go I"; i.e., that any of us who do have health insurance could suddenly confront a life-changing event and become one of those without).

There is also the issue of the unpopular health insurance companies.

President Obama has explicitly cast the bill as a pushback against health insurance companies. In the process, he has apparently helped convince Americans that health insurers would be significant net losers if the bill passes. Over half of Americans say that health insurance companies will be worse off if the bill passes. This is the biggest "worse off" percentage of any of the ten entities tested.
What actually will happen on the insurance company front is not clear. Pushing tens of millions of Americans onto the health insurance rolls who were not previously insured certainly will increase the number of healthcare customers. This could, in theory, be a net plus for the healthcare system -- including insurance companies.

The proposed legislation has many elements in it designed to curb the amount of money that healthcare companies can make off of patients. Still, Rep. Stephen Lynch, Democrat of Massachusetts has, according to a report in The Washington Post, called the bill “a great bill if you’re an insurance company” because it does not have a public option to compete with private insurers. Another observer states: "Briefly, the most significant outcome of this legislation is the windfall gain for insurance companies -- who will be able to tap the wages of the huge pool of nearly 50 million Americans who currently do not purchase health insurance."
I’m not sure what to make out of the perception of the part of Americans that doctors and hospitals will worse off -- rather than better off -- if the bill passes. Again, increasing the ranks of the insured, in theory, could mean more patients for everybody in the system. But if the net result of the bill is to cut the amount of money insurance pays out to doctors and hospitals, it could mean higher volume but with lower/non-existent profits.

DoAmericans want their doctors and hospitals to make less money? That's not clear. Americans have much more positive views of these two entities than they do of health insurance companies. Creating a more negative financial situation for doctors and hospitals could trickle down to worse care for patients. Or push more doctors to the point where they begin requiring that patients pay extra fees outside the system in order to be seen.
 
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