Smoking

[Momoftwo]

You calling them stupid just because they are addict to smoking?, Do you have any clue how hard it is to quit smoking?, Are you going to call those overweight people stupid too because they didn't go on a diet? Again do you have any idea how hard it is to lose weight? Are you going to call someone stupid for eating from McDonald's even through fast food is not healthy either. I certainly would not call anyone stupid. I've seen people take drugs, I certainly I wouldn't call them stupid, they're addict to drugs, they need help. Just like people who are smokers need help. Give them a break, One day they will quit on their terms not on your terms or anyone else here who are on a pushing wagon.

Have you heard that when people are on drugs, those who pushed their limit, make them do drugs more. It's always best to let that person help themsleves. They don't need anyone going down to their throats when they already know that drugs are bad, as well as smokers know that smoking are bad.

Cheri

YES, smoking is VERY STUPID. Guess what? My mother admitted that she was very STUPID for continuing to smoke the cigarettes. She REGRETTED that she never quitted smoking. Smoking is EVIL!

Smoking is VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY STUPIDDDDDDDDDDDDD!

 

[Cheri]

You are being insensitive so is Cheri

How am I being insensitive? Just because I threw in my two cents that doesn't mean I'm insensitive. Remember this is a forum where you going to have members here who are going to agree or disagree with you, You can't call some members insensitive just because you want to have it your way.

You also said you here to educated people about smoking, Smokers know that smoking are bad for them, It says on their cigarettes pack about General warnings. I've said that already too and I'm insensitive? Oh Okay then.

 

[Angel]

Cheri

YES, smoking is VERY STUPID. Guess what? My mother admitted that she was very STUPID for continuing to smoke the cigarettes. She REGRETTED that she never quitted smoking. Smoking is EVIL!

Smoking is VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY STUPIDDDDDDDDDDDDD!

I guess that makes me the stupidest! :roll:

 

[GalaxyAngel]

Glaxy-

I am here to EDUCATE people whether or not they know about smoking. You are being insensitive so is Cheri. I have the right to say something about smoking. Why?? It's because I really care about people. I do not want other people to get sick like my parents.

No, I never pressure on people in this message board. This is my first thread to talk about smoking. You are being so insulting to me for what you said to me. I lost my mother and father and now my close aunt is on her way to the death very soon. Please be KIND to me. Don't give me your rude words.

IF your husband or your mother had lung cancer or brain cancer or bone cancer that comes from smoking as to what the doctor tells you and then you go thru your horrible experience by seeing your loved ones being so very sick, you will completely understand what I am trying to say to you if that happens to your family in the future.

I am HERE to educate people. I DON'T CARE what you said about not necessary to say something about it. I never pressed on people in this message board.

You are making me so furious and irriated! But cool and let it go as to what God will take care of this situation with you due to your harsh words!

I let it go and I let you go.

Good luck!

*ahem*~

Did I inslut you..about your family?
Ha Ha.. No! :roll:
Obvouisly you didn't read carefully what am I saying..

You're Edcuate them.. Excuse me,
This AD are dumb are they as condsier children? We are not children.
I'm MATURE ADULT.. ain't dumb.. as they are not children.. because mature Adult are on this section here!

*ahem* I think you're jumpy and colusion and BAWL them..
Excuse me, Likely Everyone are knows about smoking isn't good for health and already seen TV. and maginize and ciggy adversting.. They already knew about Cancer.. but not even care their decision..

Wasting my time, you being educate them over over over.. Will They'll listen you.. I bet they'll nodding you... Why do you care bickering them contuine and hoped they listen you all the way?

Give them a break and includes me2..
and also Cheri is Lacking in sensitivity to the feelings or circumstances of others; unfeeling?? I think you're wrong! :roll:

 

[Roadrunner]

Mod Note:

Apparently this is not only a sensitive issue, but also a controversial one at that, there's no need to do any finger-pointing...there are some good points brought up by everyone...pls. respect each other....


As to what this thread pertains to: I , I realize the dangers from it and those 'sticks' are not only addictive and stinky, it's a hard habit to beat and break, but I wouldn't say, 'hey world, I stink cuz I smoke and therefore, I'm baddddddd....' In my own heart and mind, I know it's bad for me and for those around me, which gives me that much more encouragement to work on to the point of breaking the nasty habit and I'll do so, in my time I know I will. Bottom line, some encouragements from a non-smoker to a smoker can be a good thing, yet, there are times when a smoker doesn't want to hear of such things because they already know some of these facts. Just give some of these smokers some 'time' and the opportunity to quit.


~RR

 

[Angel]

As to what this thread pertains to: I , I realize the dangers from it and those 'sticks' are not only addictive and stinky, it's a hard habit to beat and break, but I wouldn't say, 'hey world, I stink cuz I smoke and therefore, I'm baddddddd....' In my own heart and mind, I know it's bad for me and for those around me, which gives me that much more encouragement to work on to the point of breaking the nasty habit and I'll do so, in my time I know I will. Bottom line, some encouragements from a non-smoker to a smoker can be a good thing, yet, there are times when a smoker doesn't want to hear of such things because they already know some of these facts. Just give some of these smokers some 'time' and the opportunity to quit.


~RR

I agree, well said RR

 

[GalaxyAngel]

Way to go.... RR's made good point!
Extactly!!!!
Some smoker are trying to struggle quit and cannot jump cold turkey..
Take their time until when right time their feelings!


I still applaud them..

 

[PurrMeow]

Yeah i know. My mom and aunt is smoker and had hard time trying to quit smoke but theres nothing we can do about it. They both are in good health and have not gotten cancer from it..

 

[CutePommie]

Okay, i know some people died of lungs cancer it was not because of the smoking or they never smoking in all their life , Some of people get lungs cancer it not because of due with smoking that make to having lung cancers it could be various reasons, some people doesn't smoke as they breathes in from the smoking air that other people smoking , So to *MOMOFTWO* please just respect those people, And we all does to know that smoking aren't good for us , Yet we can not to tell people what to do or what do best for them, We can not to change those people only themselves will to realise to wake up one day, so from there we can just only to be support them all the way , that is all i could to say , or you just let them know you only to care for them , so it is up to them but we have to respect that is all we all could do . i hope i have make it to be in the clear to understand for you .

Take care be healthy to be happy.

 

[Maria]

You calling them stupid just because they are addict to smoking?, Do you have any clue how hard it is to quit smoking?, Are you going to call those overweight people stupid too because they didn't go on a diet? Again do you have any idea how hard it is to lose weight? Are you going to call someone stupid for eating from McDonald's even through fast food is not healthy either. I certainly would not call anyone stupid. I've seen people take drugs, I certainly I wouldn't call them stupid, they're addict to drugs, they need help. Just like people who are smokers need help. Give them a break, One day they will quit on their terms not on your terms or anyone else here who are on a pushing wagon.

Have you heard that when people are on drugs, those who pushed their limit, make them do drugs more. It's always best to let that person help themsleves. They don't need anyone going down to their throats when they already know that drugs are bad, as well as smokers know that smoking are bad.

Smokin' is a narcotic. Why do they take it when their health was perfectly healthy in the first place ? :-\

I used to be stupid when I smoke in the past when I looked at my ciggie and said to myself " Gee - WHY do I smoke this ? What for ? What do I get from this smokin' eh ? " I was thinkin' real hard to figure it out why I smoke. I realized that this smokin' don't benefit me anythin'. It only benefits me to get health problem. That's what the smokin' is for - to get people sick, just because they TAKE it to smoke. They TOUCH it to smoke. When they complaint about health problem due to smokin' -- why they tell people that they have health problem due to smokin' ? That's unthinkable. They don't think twice when they should not TAKE it to smoke. They will regret it later. Why regret later ? They ask for it - so I call it " stupid ". It's not very smart to choice to make when they have their health problem.

If, people reallllly care about themselves, then they would care about their health, too - I know it is hard to quit - I know that, because I used to smoke myself in the past. But, look at me - I quitted in 2 years ago. That shows obviously that people CAN quit, too. They can try with their will-power.

You are talkin' about overweight - that's somethin' else I don't talk about. This thread is talkin' about SMOKIN' - not overweight. Overweight could be from the families - generation ( hereidatary/genetic ) or what ever. But, that smokin' is different. It don't come from the genetic/hereditary or what ever. It could come from the high school or junior high where all kids start smokin' through peer pressure... just showin' off their " cool ".

It's why I said " Be smarten up or be stupid " - it doesn't mean that I call them stupid when they smoke. It's their own risk. That is like when I see a person tryin' to jump off the bridge with a rope wrappin' around their ankles .. just for the hell of it or thrill --- Gee, I would say that this person is stupid for doin' that. It is his or her risk. It could kill that person if, there's an accident. Same thing with ciggie when it comes to health. People sue Company for their health problem - gee, for what ? They TAKE it and SMOKE it... the company didn't MAKE them to smoke. All they want is $$ by suin' them for causin' their health problem. Now, that's stupid. I hope that you understand what I mean. It's their choice -- on whether they want to be smarten up or not.

 

[Maria]

Mod Note:

Apparently this is not only a sensitive issue, but also a controversial one at that, there's no need to do any finger-pointing...there are some good points brought up by everyone...pls. respect each other....


As to what this thread pertains to: I , I realize the dangers from it and those 'sticks' are not only addictive and stinky, it's a hard habit to beat and break, but I wouldn't say, 'hey world, I stink cuz I smoke and therefore, I'm baddddddd....' In my own heart and mind, I know it's bad for me and for those around me, which gives me that much more encouragement to work on to the point of breaking the nasty habit and I'll do so, in my time I know I will. Bottom line, some encouragements from a non-smoker to a smoker can be a good thing, yet, there are times when a smoker doesn't want to hear of such things because they already know some of these facts. Just give some of these smokers some 'time' and the opportunity to quit.


~RR

Oh, yeah - do you know WHEN they will quit in their time ? They will QUIT when a doctor tell them that the cancer spread their lungs ... or somethin' that will happen to them - THAT'S when they will quit. Sad huh ? It will scare them when somethin' comes up in their health - knowin' that it will kill them. I've seen some people usin' tube in their throat with an oxygen tube draggin' along... that's WHEN they quit after they learned that they have lungs problem and they have to use that oxygen thing for the rest of their life. I know it is hard to quit, but think about it and don't regret it later. People will thank themselves for chosin' quit earlier rather than be sorry later.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I can see that Momoftwo doesn´t mean to upset us all but concern about health issue.

It´s nice thought of her to create a thread to inform/educate us about health issue. I´m sure that she aware that we are an adult and know what good or bad health for us because there´re warning label cigarettes in every stores and information about health foods etc.

Momoftwo,

I´m sure that you aware that it´s not just smoking who affect healthy but junk foods as well. Yes, yes I know smoking cause cancer but it´s not just smoking but chemetisy foods, paints, sprays, etc.

I have a friend who got cancer on the bottom of lung. She consider health foods and don´t smoke and drink alochol... She eats vegetables real ALOT... Nobody knows why/where she got it from... The doctor suspect it´s something do with the factory where she works... toxic air affect her health. They cut bottom of lung off and go to chemo therapy... She is well and still alive since almost 10 years now... (I remember that years because I had Alan as same time as she got it).

Look the example about Dana Reeves who died of lung cancer... She did not smoke and drink acholoc... We suspected it´s something do with toxic air where she took care of machines, etc...Christopher for long 9 years...

Momoftwo, I think ban smoking in public doesn´t solve anything because of toxic air, chemetisy, etc. It will still cause your health... It look like that government think smoking are mainly blame who cause cancer etc... than others like chemistry, toxic air, paints, sprays, etc. etc... It´s not true...

It´s great when the smokers respect non-smokers for not smoke in their house, etc... We asked Waiters to seat us in non-smoking area. Its about RESPECT but ban? Huh?
You said that public smoking are ban in your country... It look like that smokers show no respect on non-smokers or what??? I can´t see the sense why public smoking are being ban because a lot of smokers know how to respect non-smokers. It´s RESPECT.

 

[Cheri]

I can see that Momoftwo doesn´t mean to upset us all but concern about health issue.

Yep, She is getting quite upset at the fact that I pointed out some other issues that related to cancer as well, It's ok for her to bashed onto smokers when there are other things that give people cancer too. I also see her calling GalaxyAngel and I insensitive.


I said what I had to say and that's all I'm going to say on this thread, If they want to bash onto smokers, be my guts. I'm not going to waste my time on this thread.

 

[Cheri]

Bottom line, some encouragements from a non-smoker to a smoker can be a good thing, yet, there are times when a smoker doesn't want to hear of such things because they already know some of these facts. Just give some of these smokers some 'time' and the opportunity to quit.

Okay, i know some people died of lungs cancer it was not because of the smoking or they never smoking in all their life

That's true too. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Maria]

I can see that Momoftwo doesn´t mean to upset us all but concern about health issue.

It´s nice thought of her to create a thread to inform/educate us about health issue. I´m sure that she aware that we are an adult and know what good or bad health for us because there´re warning label cigarettes in every stores and information about health foods etc.

Momoftwo,

I´m sure that you aware that it´s not just smoking who affect healthy but junk foods as well. Yes, yes I know smoking cause cancer but it´s not just smoking but chemetisy foods, paints, sprays, etc.

I have a friend who got cancer on the bottom of lung. She consider health foods and don´t smoke and drink alochol... She eats vegetables real ALOT... Nobody knows why/where she got it from... The doctor suspect it´s something do with the factory where she works... toxic air affect her health. They cut bottom of lung off and go to chemo therapy... She is well and still alive since almost 10 years now... (I remember that years because I had Alan as same time as she got it).

Look the example about Dana Reeves who died of lung cancer... She did not smoke and drink acholoc... We suspected it´s something do with toxic air where she took care of machines, etc...Christopher for long 9 years...

Momoftwo, I think ban smoking in public doesn´t solve anything because of toxic air, chemetisy, etc. It will still cause your health... It look like that government think smoking are mainly blame who cause cancer etc... than others like chemistry, toxic air, paints, sprays, etc. etc... It´s not true...

It´s great when the smokers respect non-smokers for not smoke in their house, etc... We asked Waiters to seat us in non-smoking area. Its about RESPECT but ban? Huh?
You said that public smoking are ban in your country... It look like that smokers show no respect on non-smokers or what??? I can´t see the sense why public smoking are being ban because a lot of smokers know how to respect non-smokers. It´s RESPECT.

About the food issue here : It is possible that it has to do with pesticide/herbicide on foods that they were sprayin' on ( to prevent bugs or insects from eatin' crops BEFORE sellin' them at the stores ). Pesticide/herbicide can cause cancer.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

About the food issue here : It is possible that it has to do with pesticide/herbicide on foods that they were sprayin' on ( to prevent bugs or insects from eatin' crops BEFORE sellin' them at the stores ). Pesticide/herbicide can cause cancer.

Yes you are correct about this but she has many vegetables in her own garden. That´s why I don´t understand why she got lung cancer. The doctors beleive it´s something do with toxic air in factory where she work.

Yes, we know that we have to wash to clean the vegetables and fruits after buy from stores. That´s why we plant vegetables, fruits and berries at our garden.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yep, She is getting quite upset at the fact that I pointed out some other issues that related to cancer as well, It's ok for her to bashed onto smokers when there are other things that give people cancer too. I also see her calling GalaxyAngel and I insensitive.

Yes I see that. I feel Momoftwo owe you and GalaxyAngel an apology for name-calling.

I already explained to her in my post that it´s not just smoking but junk foods, sprays, chemistry, paints, etc. etc. etc. that´s why I say that ban public smoking do not solve anything.

 

[CutePommie]

Cheri

YES, smoking is VERY STUPID. Guess what? My mother admitted that she was very STUPID for continuing to smoke the cigarettes. She REGRETTED that she never quitted smoking. Smoking is EVIL!

Smoking is VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY STUPIDDDDDDDDDDDDD!

It wrong to say that the smoking is VERY STUPID, just becareful what you saying it ok . Whoever are smoking it doesn't mean they are STUPID okay , some people does smoking for reasons (myself nonsmoker) . I don't think it should say that STUPID for not to quit the smoking . Only maybe like say * I WISH THAT I DON'T HAVE TO STARTED SMOKING LONG TIME AGO * like that, It is bit harsh to use this word like *STUPID*.

 

[CutePommie]

That's true too. Thanks for pointing that out.

Your Welcome Cheri !

 

[GalaxyAngel]

CyberRed, Not necessary repeat them about smoking and blah blah..
They are KNOWS.. why do you care blabbering it ?

They are struggle and trying to quit smoking..

Some of concern issues patch (can be cause you death) and other kinds of medcation.

Humans are not guinea pig.. OK..