Sex Offenders Who Violate Parole Walk Free

[Foxrac]

So are you suggesting that there is no solution but to release sicko waiting to hurt next victim?

No, there are options.

1) Build more prisons
2) reform the sentencing
3) mandatory rehabilitation for all drug offenses
4) increase more parole and supervision release
5) release lowest offense inmates (felony theft, felony drug offense)
6) program (find a job, find a place to live)
7) mandatory castration for sex offenders
8) execute the prisoners who commit murder
9) Improve the education at public school
10) Create more jobs

 

[Steinhauer]

I think pedophiles should have a millstone hung around their neck and then tossed into the ocean.

 

[CrazyPaul]

No, there are options.

1) Build more prisons
2) reform the sentencing
3) mandatory rehabilitation for all drug offenses
4) increase more parole and supervision release
5) release lowest offense inmates (felony theft, felony drug offense)
6) program (find a job, find a place to live)
7) mandatory castration for sex offenders
8) execute the prisoners who commit murder
9) Improve the education at public school
10) Create more jobs

Did you write a letter to Congress regarding those options?

 

[diehardbiker]

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No, there are options.

1) Build more prisonsGovernment is broke, and have no money, so whats point?
2) reform the sentencingThe one I just suggested
3) mandatory rehabilitation for all drug offensesThe one I just suggested
4) increase more parole and supervision releaseGovernment is broke, and have no money, so whats point?
5) release lowest offense inmates (felony theft, felony drug offense)
6) program (find a job, find a place to live)Government is broke, and have no money, so whats point?
7) mandatory castration for sex offendersGovernment is broke, and have no money, so whats point?
8) execute the prisoners who commit murderGovernment is broke, and have no money, and it cost even more than lock em up for rest of life, its fact, so whats point?
9) Improve the education at public schoolThats one
10) Create more jobsDo you think majority of companies would want to hire them?

 

[Foxrac]

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If you say government broke so you have to live with it.

Cut the programs for poor people and allocate more funds to prison.

 

[deafdyke]

Again the key is to put them in a mental insistution for the rest of their life.Thankfully stranger danger child molestation is very rare...usually what happens is that a pedo manipulates a child (usually a loner) by making the kid believe that they have a relationship/friendship....and then it esculates from there....but child molesters are extremely mentally ill and suffer from distorted thinking...(ie the kid is coming on to me!)

 

[Steinhauer]

Nah, that is too expensive. Just take them to the middle of the Atlantic and let them swim home.

 

[Foxrac]

Nah, that is too expensive. Just take them to the middle of the Atlantic and let them swim home.

I know you are joking.

I'm looking for real solution constitutionally.

Canada and Europe (exclude Russia) has much less inmate population than US.

We need to improve the education and find way to create more jobs, before poor people become criminal or drug addict.

 

[Foxrac]

Execution can be less inexpensive if we limit the appeal and cut the long time.

For execute the sex offenders - you need new constitutional amendment that allow sex offenders with repeat offense to be executed. US Supreme Court no longer allow state to execute the child molester.

 

[Steinhauer]

Execution can be less inexpensive if we limit the appeal and cut the long time.

For execute the sex offenders - you need new constitutional amendment that allow sex offenders with repeat offense to be executed. US Supreme Court no longer allow state to execute the child molester.

We don't need a constitutional amendment. We need a boat.

 

[diehardbiker]

FYI, I am the guy that don't believe in two wrongs makes it right. Execution is an attempt to correct one wrong and create new wrong.

That is not the only reason, there are other reason. Is there by any chance the suspect may be innocent? You have to say yes or no. If the answer is yes, then we can't afford execution. If truly no then I would agree. So, history already shows that we already executed innocent suspects in the past and that is NOT acceptable.*

Execution can be less inexpensive if we limit the appeal and cut the long time.

For execute the sex offenders - you need new constitutional amendment that allow sex offenders with repeat offense to be executed. US Supreme Court no longer allow state to execute the child molester.

 

[Jiro]

Nah, that is too expensive. Just take them to the middle of the Atlantic and let them swim home.

in middle of atlantic is the Great Atlantic Garbage Patch... they should be able to make a home on it

 

[Foxrac]

Did you write a letter to Congress regarding those options?

No, the prison issue is one of least priority for me.

Also, prison is mostly state issue, unless we talk about federal prison.

 

[diehardbiker]

Federal court had ordered State of California to fix the problem, so congress is involve able.

No, the prison issue is one of least priority for me.

Also, prison is mostly state issue, unless we talk about federal prison.

 

[Babyblue]

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Sadly in the United States we can not force inmates to work. It falls under the cruel and unusal punishment. Now if the judge orders community hours and they refuse then their "jail or probation time" is extended. In the State of Florida DOC they used to have inmates grow their own food and work on cattle ranches. Too many mommies called and complained that their babies(inmates) are being forced to work. So it is a shame that inmates have more rights than the good people of this wonderful country.

We could force inmates to work, long as meet the constitutional limit - California and Oregon have forced labor camp. You have to choose - work or stay in confinement with less food, less privilege, longer prison time.

It is just like reward - if you clean the bathroom so I will buy a chocolate candy bar or Happy Mac.

You are correct about refuse to do community service or labor means longer prison time.

If they are able to choose then it isn't forced to work. They had a choice. Harsher sentence or work. Plus inmates that do work earn "gain time" Some inmates do goto work camp but those are the ones that are low risk from escape and can not have a sex crime on record. inmates that are confined in prison are able to different jobs inside prison such as Kitchen, laundry, housekeeping jobs to earn gain time.

 

[Reba]

Execution can be less inexpensive if we limit the appeal and cut the long time.

For execute the sex offenders - you need new constitutional amendment that allow sex offenders with repeat offense to be executed. US Supreme Court no longer allow state to execute the child molester.

That doesn't require a constitutional amendment. It should be up to each state to make its own laws for sentencing.

Rape, kidnapping and child molesting used to be death sentence crimes. Now, even mass murderers don't get the death penalty. Americans have lost their resolve for death sentences.

 

[Reba]

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If they are able to choose then it isn't forced to work. They had a choice. Harsher sentence or work. Plus inmates that do work earn "gain time" Some inmates do goto work camp but those are the ones that are low risk from escape and can not have a sex crime on record. inmates that are confined in prison are able to different jobs inside prison such as Kitchen, laundry, housekeeping jobs to earn gain time.

There are some prisoners who just plain enjoy doing the work, too. They prefer to keep busy and get out of their cells. It's a mentally healthier thing to do.

In SC, the trustee prisoners get to work on the road crews. It's hot, dirty, exhausting work but there are some who prefer that.

 

[Foxrac]

That doesn't require a constitutional amendment. It should be up to each state to make its own laws for sentencing.

Rape, kidnapping and child molesting used to be death sentence crimes. Now, even mass murderers don't get the death penalty. Americans have lost their resolve for death sentences.

Are you forget about US Supreme Court ruling - Kennedy v. Louisiana?
Kennedy v. Louisiana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It means you need new constitutional amendment to override the US Supreme Court decision.

Now, death penalty is reserved for murderers, if criminal involve raping, kidnapping or child molesting with murder so they will receive death penalty.

It looks like death penalty has tighten up since 1970's to make limit to murder, espionage and treason today.

 

[Reba]

Are you forget about US Supreme Court ruling - Kennedy v. Louisiana?
Kennedy v. Louisiana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It means you need new constitutional amendment to override the US Supreme Court decision.

Now, death penalty is reserved for murderers, if criminal involve raping, kidnapping or child molesting with murder so they will receive death penalty.

It looks like death penalty has tighten up since 1970's to make limit to murder, espionage and treason today.

Did you also read the dissent view, the factual error, and the statements by Obama and McCain?

Barack Obama said at a news conference in Chicago:

“I have said repeatedly that I think that the death penalty should be applied in very narrow circumstances for the most egregious of crimes...I think that the rape of a small child, six or eight years old, is a heinous crime and if a state makes a decision that under narrow, limited, well-defined circumstances the death penalty is at least potentially applicable, that that does not violate our Constitution.”

Obama also argued that the high court had gone too far in restricting the powers of the states. If the court had “said we want to constrain the abilities of states to do this to make sure that it’s done in a careful and appropriate way, that would have been one thing. But it basically had a blanket prohibition and I disagree with that decision.”

The debate isn't over. The Supreme Court does make mistakes.

 

[Foxrac]

Did you also read the dissent view, the factual error, and the statements by Obama and McCain?

The debate isn't over. The Supreme Court does make mistakes.

You told me that we don't need new constitutional amendment for death penalty on child molestation and other crime than murder.

That doesn't require a constitutional amendment. It should be up to each state to make its own laws for sentencing.

Rape, kidnapping and child molesting used to be death sentence crimes. Now, even mass murderers don't get the death penalty. Americans have lost their resolve for death sentences.

US Supreme Court ruling prevented the death penalty for child molestation and other crimes.

It means you need new constitutional amendment to override the US Supreme Court ruling.