School Expels Girl for Having Gay Parents

[GalaxyAngel]

Actually, the mom's "white lie" proves the point that lying IS harmful. Her lie DID hurt her daughter.

She did NOT hurt her daughter..
Her daughter know their parent are gay.
Nowhere place best education only the way for her private school better place than public school.

Do you still label them ?

 

[GalaxyAngel]

That's right. But it doesn't mean we can tell God, "I had a good reason to sin", or "I'm only human", or "It's none of your business.

Ah.. rest same you too.. None of your business their own business too. *ahem*

 

[Oceanbreeze]

What is the difference between "human" behavior and "normal" behavior? If human behavior is not "normal" is it "abnormal"?


Excuse me?


Just in case you didn't get the whole story in Germany, Clinton was impeached for lying under oath to the government. He was NOT impeached for adultery.



So why do you care about what happened in the Christian school? That is not your business either.



That's right. But it doesn't mean we can tell God, "I had a good reason to sin", or "I'm only human", or "It's none of your business."

 

[Reba]

She did NOT hurt her daughter...

Do you still label them ?

I am not putting a "label" on anyone.

Perhaps you are right. Maybe her daughter wasn't hurt by all this mess. Maybe she doesn't care. Maybe she said good riddance to the school.

That's right. But it doesn't mean we can tell God, "I had a good reason to sin", or "I'm only human", or "It's none of your business."

Ah.. rest same you too.. None of your business their own business too. *ahem*

My fault. I wasn't clear enough.
Sinners can't tell God, "I had a good reason to sin", or "I'm only human", or "It's none of your (God's) business." It IS God's business, and God doesn't accept excuses.

Now, I quit. My head hurts too much from banging it on the brick wall. :roll:

 

[Oceanbreeze]

I am not putting a "label" on anyone.

Perhaps you are right. Maybe her daughter wasn't hurt by all this mess. Maybe she doesn't care. Maybe she said good riddance to the school.



My fault. I wasn't clear enough.
Sinners can't tell God, "I had a good reason to sin", or "I'm only human", or "It's none of your (God's) business." It IS God's business, and God doesn't accept excuses.

Now, I quit. My head hurts too much from banging it on the brick wall. :roll:

Eve won't be happy. She is losing her tag team partner. Ahhh, well... I DO understand. Bow out while you still have usable brain cells left to work with!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You said:

If you are not judging liars then it means you accept lying if they "have good reasons". I am not twisting your words. You said it yourself. You believe that people "have good reasons to lie."

:roll:
I never say lying is okay. Yes, I beleive a girl´s mother has a good reason to lie school because she WANT her daughter go that school. Why should I label her as liar and judge her for that? No, I would not do that but I would sit and have a talk with girl´s mother in friendly way and tell her why she do that which she knows it´s wrong.

Liebling´s post
Example:
The parent push the children to start lying out of their fear to not being punishment, etc. etc. etc. Most people lies for many reasons... I already said that I KNOW what they did is NOT right. We need to open our mind to see the view why the people lies for reasons or choose to lie for purpose... etc.
I would consider the lies cause friendship, partnership, family is a MOST TERRIBLE, that hurt trust development.
There´re many difference what/how the people lies to... We need to open our mind to see the view WHY they did wrong. Example: people lie to doctor that they are okay which they know they are not okay.

Would you label people as liar when they lie their doctor that they are okay?
Would you label children as liar when they lie their parents because they are scared of their parents?

I know the reasons why people lie. That doesn't mean they have "good" or acceptable reasons. They still have no excuse.

wow, it look like that you show no understand their reasons but label and judge them as liars.

It´s different story about murders, rapist, cheats, abusive etc. I show no understand for that.

They DID deal with the mother. They told the mother that she lied and that she needed to remove her daughter from the school.

Sure, It´s simple for them to deal with a mother telling her to remove innoncent girl... :roll: It´s wrong...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Actually, the mom's "white lie" proves the point that lying IS harmful. Her lie DID hurt her daughter.

Remember that nobody are prefect... :roll:

 

[Liebling:-)))]

What is the difference between "human" behavior and "normal" behavior? If human behavior is not "normal" is it "abnormal"?

Oh I see!
What I mean is he is human like all rest of us who can´t be 100% prefect. (sinner what I mean).

Excuse me?

I thought you know that there´re cheat married partners at everywhere. I didn´t know that you only know that Clinton is first man in the world who cheats his wife, Right? Did you know that his wife want to divorce him that´s time he was Governor?
Did you know that John Kennedy cheated his wife ALOT?
Anyway, I show you the link to prove you that Clinton is not first man in the world who broke his marriage vow. The reason his wife wants divorce him.

http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/Why_do_men_always_cheat
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/mar&div.pdf
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

Just in case you didn't get the whole story in Germany, Clinton was impeached for lying under oath to the government. He was NOT impeached for adultery.

Yes, we know full of Clinton & Monica´s scandal. It spread hot fever in Europe...
Yes, we know that British and American law to judge people´s background to be 100% clean before they want become to be President.
Polities in Europe except British are re-married and divorced. Who cares about their background because we know nobody are prefect.

So why do you care about what happened in the Christian school? That is not your business either.

I think I did told you in my previous posts that I don´t care about Christian school and their rules but all what I care is a poor girl what they did painly wrong. period.
You care about school rule, not poor girl.

That's right. But it doesn't mean we can tell God, "I had a good reason to sin", or "I'm only human", or "It's none of your business."

Simple is: God knows we are sinner. He love and forgive us for our sin.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Bullym0m
Ah.. rest same you too.. None of your business their own business too. *ahem*

She did NOT hurt her daughter..
Her daughter know their parent are gay.
Nowhere place best education only the way for her private school better place than public school.

Do you still label them ?

All what we care about a poor girl.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reba
What is the difference between "human" behavior and "normal" behavior? If human behavior is not "normal" is it "abnormal"?

Originally Posted by Liebling))
Oh I see!
What I mean is he is human like all rest of us who can´t be 100% prefect. (sinner what I mean).

I forget to add something to edit my last post.

I said Clinton is human like us but he doing his duty to take care of his people pretty good. Why should we worry about his private background? Like what I say, I don´t care about his private background because it´s not my business. To me, mainly important is he doing his duty as President pretty good. I find it´s absurd to worry everyone´s private background.

 

[Eve]

Don´t twist my word. I never say that lying is okay.

Nobody twisted your words. You condoned the parents behavior by giving them the excuse that they had a “reason” to lie. We all could have “reasons” for lying, but that still doesn’t make it okay.

EVEN Eve did judge them too.. No difference.. *ahem*~

where?

It´s different story if Clinton is a criminal but cheat his wife like most husbands or wives did with their partner.

My husband and I do NOT cheat on one another. Does that make us abnormal? If so, I am happy to be the odd duck out.

Just in case you didn't get the whole story in Germany, Clinton was impeached for lying under oath to the government. He was NOT impeached for adultery.

The reason he was under oath in the first place is because the American public saw his dishonesty toward his wife as an example of his character as a whole. If he will lie and cheat on his wife, he is capable of doing the same to our country. A leopard does not change it’s spots.

She did NOT hurt her daughter..

Her LIE hurt her daughter. If the mother had not lied to the school, her daughter would never have been enrolled in the school in the first place. She could have gone elsewhere, where her mother’s sexual preference was not an issue. And then this whole topic would be moot. The mother’s actions drew attention to this child who was put in the position by her own mother.

Now, I quit. My head hurts too much from banging it on the brick wall.

Reba, one of my favorite sayings is “you can’t rationalize with an irrational person”. Although I still find the game fun at times LOL.

wow, it look like that you show no understand their reasons but label and judge them as liars.

Reba and I didn’t form the label. Blame Webster. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=liar

liar
n : a person who has lied or who lies repeatedly

Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

 

[Oceanbreeze]

All what we care about a poor girl.

That "poor girl" was only harmed by the lie that was told. It has no bearing on her getting an education elsewhere. Hopefully, this child will have learned that there are consequences for ones actions and know that lying isn't condoned.

 

[Reba]

I said Clinton is human like us but he doing his duty to take care of his people pretty good. .. he doing his duty as President pretty good. ...

 

[XBGMER]

Some people here are forgetting something important. The couple knew about the student code of conduct and what was contained in it. They chose to lie and enroll their daughter under false pretences. Once the school found out about the deception, they had the right to expel the girl. That's the facts. We can't change it, and all this back and forth is becoming repetitive.

GOOD THOUGHTS!!!! your post come along that I never thought.. your good post punched in my face to wake up...!

 

[XBGMER]

err... Actually.. My opnion is... Young girl's mother is trying protection her own idenfity and prefer use "white lie" Isn't hurt none of harm.. but too late They already found out who they are... *flick the young girl out of private school*
Which Mother have good reason... She doesn't mean being hurt her daughter because afraid of out of closest front of public or anyone..
I believe She want best interest for her daughter placed suitable private school than public school because best education.

Hey, BullyM0m, and Oceanbreeze, Your opinion is not entitle just opinion.. Your statment is fact that I believe that! Once they wanted to being a white lie and put a fraud filled on application for their daughter entroll pravite school which is felony fraud!!!.. SOORRRY!, I MUST agreed with private school had rights to expelled her from prviate school..

For instance, You go looking for job, they require you fill the application with truth answers .. no fraud... like they asked you famous question by applcation " have you been conviction felony?" , "Have your drive been revoke suspection?" other questions on and on.. you marked the fraud application which lie to company.. when they hired you to work there but how soon they will find out who you are being lied for applcation, they have the right terminate you from postion job..

 

[Oceanbreeze]

Hey, BullyM0m, and Oceanbreeze, Your opinion is not entitle just opinion.. Your statment is fact that I believe that! Once they wanted to being a white lie and put a fraud filled on application for their daughter entroll pravite school which is felony fraud!!!.. SOORRRY!, I MUST agreed with private school had rights to expelled her from prviate school..

For instance, You go looking for job, they require you fill the application with truth answers .. no fraud... like they asked you famous question by applcation " have you been conviction felony?" , "Have your drive been revoke suspection?" other questions on and on.. you marked the fraud application which lie to company.. when they hired you to work there but how soon they will find out who you are being lied for applcation, they have the right terminate you from postion job..

CK,

I'm not understanding you here. But, to be clear about something. I disagree with BullyMom's position. My position is that the school had the right to expell the girl based on the fact that her parents lied on the form, and they knew they were breaking the school's code of conduct.

 

[XBGMER]

I'm not understanding you here. But, to be clear about something. I disagree with BullyMom's position..

Would you pardon me?, I am sorry if i confuse you by my post.. Yes I respect your disagree with bullym0m's postion.. I am just here to agree with your good thoughts and other's thoughs also since I read this thread had something missing the point why girl expelled from P.S., till you hit it on this.. I am not here on other side against you nor on your side against others.. I hope this make loud and clear to you!

My position is that the school had the right to expell the girl based on the fact that her parents lied on the form, and they knew they were breaking the school's code of conduct.

Yes, That's exactly what I've thoughts of agree with pretty much everything you said, as well done.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

Would you pardon me?, I am sorry if i confuse you by my post.. Yes I respect your disagree with bullym0m's postion.. I am just here to agree with your good thoughts and other's thoughs also since I read this thread had something missing the point why girl expelled from P.S., till you hit it on this.. I am not here on other side against you nor on your side against others.. I hope this make loud and clear to you! Yes, That's exactly what I've thoughts of agree with pretty much everything you said, as well done.

No harm, no foul. Just clarifying my position for you and others.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Nobody twisted your words. You condoned the parents behavior by giving them the excuse that they had a “reason” to lie. We all could have “reasons” for lying, but that still doesn’t make it okay.

See the example:

http://www.peopleoffaith.com/why-do-people-lie.htm

My husband and I do NOT cheat on one another. Does that make us abnormal? If so, I am happy to be the odd duck out.

I has no idea what you talk about because nobody say word "normal" or "abnormal" but human. What I say human what mean is: They are sinner like all rest of us who make their mistakes.

Of course I´m happy that my husband stay faith married to me for 20 years as I to him, too. It´s free of me to divorce him if he betray my trust. Some of people forgive their partner for break their marriage vow, some not.

The reason he was under oath in the first place is because the American public saw his dishonesty toward his wife as an example of his character as a whole. If he will lie and cheat on his wife, he is capable of doing the same to our country. A leopard does not change it’s spots.

Not just Clinton, but his wife, too because she KNEW his husband´s unfaithful to her alot of times before he become president. She choose to stay married to him. That´s why I said it´s their business. Yes, they made one mistake but they are still good people. They are just human who make their mistakes like all rest of us.

Reba and I didn’t form the label. Blame Webster. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=liar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You can laugh whatever you like. It´s my opinon that Clinton and his wife are good people. Yes, they make their mistakes but they doing their job pretty good to take care of their people.