Saudi punishes gang rape victim with 200 lashes

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A court in the ultra-conservative kingdom of Saudi Arabia is punishing a female victim of gang rape with 200 lashes and six months in jail, a newspaper reported on Thursday.

The 19-year-old woman -- whose six armed attackers have been sentenced to jail terms -- was initially ordered to undergo 90 lashes for "being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape," the Arab News reported.

But in a new verdict issued after Saudi Arabia's Higher Judicial Council ordered a retrial, the court in the eastern town of Al-Qatif more than doubled the number of lashes to 200.

A court source told the English-language Arab News that the judges had decided to punish the woman further for "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media."

Saudi Arabia enforces a strict Islamic doctrine known as Wahhabism and forbids unrelated men and women from associating with each other, bans women from driving and forces them to cover head-to-toe in public.

Last year, the court sentenced six Saudi men to between one and five years in jail for the rape as well as ordering lashes for the victim, a member of the minority Shiite community.

But the woman's lawyer Abdul Rahman al-Lahem appealed, arguing that the punishments were too lenient in a country where the offence can carry the death penalty.

In the new verdict issued on Wednesday, the Al-Qatif court also toughened the sentences against the six men to between two and nine years in prison.

The case has angered members of Saudi Arabia's Shiite community. The convicted men are Sunni Muslims, the dominant community in the oil-rich Gulf state.

Lahem, also a human rights activist, told AFP on Wednesday that the court had banned him from handling the rape case and withdrew his licence to practise law because he challenged the verdict.

He said he has also been summoned by the ministry of justice to appear before a disciplinary committee in December. Lahem said the move might be due to his criticism of some judicial institutions, and "contradicts King Abdullah's quest to introduce reform, especially in the justice system." King Abdullah last month approved a new body of laws regulating the judicial system in Saudi Arabia, which rules on the basis of sharia, or Islamic law.

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WTF? Victim is getting punished?? Fk up.
 
WTF at Saudi Arabia??? I'm TOTALLY DISAGREE with damn country, plus victim has no choice.

Fuck to Saudi Arabia, that too harsher to punish the victim. :mad:
 
Here's your answer:

"...Saudi Arabia enforces a strict Islamic doctrine known as Wahhabism...."
 
lumbingmi said:
Yea it s bitch over there and Christian doctrine is superior than others :angel:
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Well, I would certainly prefer to live under a legal system based on Christian and Judeo principles.
 
Reba said:
Well, I would certainly prefer to live under a legal system based on Christian and Judeo principles.
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Yup, it's safe to live on heavily christian like USA is one of them than in muslim countries but few muslim countries like Turkey isn't same punishment system as Sandi Arabia does.

I still not believe in religion but just rather to live here than in muslim countries.
 
Don't the Muslims in places like those realize that disallowing women from associating with unrelated males is bad for business because that would exclude about half of the population from doing anything with the other half unless they were related? That reduces the number of transactions and therefore the multiplying power of their money. They have the oil business so they won't care about that. But the supply of that isn't infinite.

From my studies of the bible, it is my opinion that I'd rather not live in a country based on Judaism or Christianity either. Islam is where Christianity was several centuries ago and where Judaism was several millennia ago. I hope it calms down by reducing, as close to zero as possible, the number of fundamentalists with the power to harm and kill. But trends can always go back in the other direction as long as the belief system contains such ideas stored away in texts or sayings.
 
Reba said:
Well, I would certainly prefer to live under a legal system based on Christian and Judeo principles.
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personally I'd rather religion kept is nose out of the legal world which has nothing at all to do with religion, the law should be run by common sense and goodness, both of these have no part in a 2000 year old book of fiction.

the western world has only become civilised since we stopped the churches having any say in legal/government and politics, the reason some countries like saudi arabia are still backwards is purely because their religion has not been banished from the aforementioned practices.
this is why they should stop building mosque's in our contries to appease them, they are trying to drag us back a cuntury, how long will it be before the muslims demand a voice in government, not very long for sure, it's worse here than in the US but it will happen.
and I am not a racist, I don't care what religion they are be them christians, muslims etc just that religion should have no part in the running of the country or anything else which has any power, religion gives god a bad name.

and injustices like the above post happens daily all beacuse of some religion
 
Macian said:
personally I'd rather religion kept is nose out of the legal world which has nothing at all to do with religion....
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Please note that I stated "based on Christian and Judeo principles." I don't want any governments run by churches or religions or clergy. :)

My preference is that we have moral leaders of good character who trust and obey God, and the use the Bible for guidance but I know that's not what's happening in the real world. It's certainly not something that can (or should) be forced on anyone.

But I'm still glad that the early founders of the United States followed the principles of the Bible rather than the Koran. I'm also grateful that they followed English common law and not Napoleonic law (excusing Louisiana), and that the Spainards didn't keep control of Florida and California.

My government and legal system are flawed, and run by imperfect people, but I'm grateful for what I have, especially when I look over the world situation.
 
I thank GOD everyday I am a american and not live over there the kind of life that women don't get any freedom there. Their world is way too cruel, heartless, cold, and out of control in the world they live in that have no respect to women who deserve to be treated fairly.
 
Reba said:
Please note that I stated "based on Christian and Judeo principles." I don't want any governments run by churches or religions or clergy. :)

My preference is that we have moral leaders of good character who trust and obey God, and the use the Bible for guidance but I know that's not what's happening in the real world. It's certainly not something that can (or should) be forced on anyone.

But I'm still glad that the early founders of the United States followed the principles of the Bible rather than the Koran. I'm also grateful that they followed English common law and not Napoleonic law (excusing Louisiana), and that the Spainards didn't keep control of Florida and California.

My government and legal system are flawed, and run by imperfect people, but I'm grateful for what I have, especially when I look over the world situation.
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point duly noted Reba, and great post by the way:gpost:

although I disagree with the God part, people who folllow any God/allah or whatever are too dangerous to be holding an influential postion, this is why the above happened, and when we had them interfering with our politics people were lynched, burned, hands cut off, hung drawn and quartered etc, this was the so called christians, I not knocking your faith Reba but we wouldn't be where we are without having dumped them years ago, we didnt get where we are now because of them but in spite of them. and if the east follows suit they might even reach a level of humanity within the century, though I won't hold my breath.

anyway I liked the way you responded Reba, very impressive, many thanks for your positve reply
 
Macian said:
point duly noted Reba, and great post by the way:gpost:
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although I disagree with the God part, people who folllow any God/allah or whatever are too dangerous to be holding an influential postion, this is why the above happened, and when we had them interfering with our politics people were lynched, burned, hands cut off, hung drawn and quartered etc, this was the so called christians...
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Are you referring to America politics or European politics of the past?

Either way, much of what is claimed to be done in the name of God is actually done in the reality of hunger for political and material power. An age-old problem, eh?

Racial hatred (as expressed by lynchings) will exist even when it doesn't use religion as an excuse to justify it's actions. That's the nature of man.

I not knocking your faith Reba...
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I appreciate that.

but we wouldn't be where we are without having dumped them years ago, we didnt get where we are now because of them but in spite of them. and if the east follows suit they might even reach a level of humanity within the century, though I won't hold my breath.
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I have to respectfully disagree, to a point. This isn't the time and place to debate in depth but I just want to state that investigation will prove that men (and women) of Christian faith have been at the forefront of advances in society down through the centuries. At the same time, I agree that many religious institutions and leaders have not only held back civilization but were cruel and ruthless in their suppression. My point is, I focus on my Lord Jesus and His Word, not on any man or organization.

anyway I liked the way you responded Reba, very impressive, many thanks for your positve reply
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Uh, oh, you're destroying my reputation as forum meanie! :whip:
 
Muslim countries have less crimes because of strict laws...

USA got more crimes than any other countries.
 
Deafilmedia said:
Muslim countries have less crimes because of strict laws...

USA got more crimes than any other countries.
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First of all, different countries and cultures classify their crimes differently.

Secondly, if a country maims or kills off the criminals that reduces the number of repeat offenders permanently.
 
Deafilmedia said:
Muslim countries have less crimes because of strict laws...

USA got more crimes than any other countries.
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Personally, I think its a crime in and of itself to punish a rape victim with lashes and jail time. They don't have less crime, they just have different standards of what is considered to be criminal.
 
Words fail me!!!

:pissed: :eek2: :Ohno: :cry: :barf:

I've heard about this kind of thing happening before. I'm glad I am female in a western country. Although my friend's daughter got into trouble with the police after she was raped for 'wasting police time' because they didn't believe her. This happened in the UK which isn't a muslim country although some british muslims would want that to happen and can be really vocal about it too.
 
jillio said:
Personally, I think its a crime in and of itself to punish a rape victim with lashes and jail time. They don't have less crime, they just have different standards of what is considered to be criminal.
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I totally agree!!!
 
Deafilmedia said:
Muslim countries have less crimes because of strict laws...

USA got more crimes than any other countries.
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That not true, I disagree with you on that one. Crimes are everywhere no matter where, it not just only in america, but other countries as well. But their laws have way too much abuse on women. :pissed:
 
dreama said:
Words fail me!!!

:pissed: :eek2: :Ohno: :cry: :barf:

I've heard about this kind of thing happening before. I'm glad I am female in a western country. Although my friend's daughter got into trouble with the police after she was raped for 'wasting police time' because they didn't believe her. This happened in the UK which isn't a muslim country although some british muslims would want that to happen and can be really vocal about it too.
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Honestly, Rape is always hard to prove to the police and other people. Normally we know Rape cases not always win. From experinces lots of women I know report rape but never get enough proof due to no witness. How can a crime be witness when there a rape? Rape is hard to prove since the woman is the one suffering.
 
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