Sarah Palin's major gaffe: 'We gotta stand with our NORTH Korean allies'

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Jiro said:
Senator ranks above Governor (debatable).
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Ranks where? In line for the potty? On the President's Christmas card list?

Senator has DC experience.
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Not when they first arrive. It takes years to be called "experienced."

What is "DC experience?"

If the state needs federal assistance or anything relating to federal-state matter... senator's your man.

example - Ted Stevens... the Alaskan Pork....
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If you want to change the way things are run in your own state, then the state legislature and governor are more important to you.

Governors get executive experience in their position.

CEO's, business owners, and senior executives of organizations get executive experience in their positions.

Senators do not get executive experience (unless you count bossing around the secretary) in their positions as senators. Some senators have executive experience prior to becoming senators by virtue of positions they held in the private sector, such as owning businesses.
 
Reba said:
Ranks where? In line for the potty? On the President's Christmas card list?


Not when they first arrive. It takes years to be called "experienced."

What is "DC experience?"


If you want to change the way things are run in your own state, then the state legislature and governor are more important to you.

Governors get executive experience in their position.

CEO's, business owners, and senior executives of organizations get executive experience in their positions.

Senators do not get executive experience (unless you count bossing around the secretary) in their positions as senators. Some senators have executive experience prior to becoming senators by virtue of positions they held in the private sector, such as owning businesses.
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hence... debatable :)

sad that a lot of things you want to do internally requires a federal funding. and you'll need to fight against federal law in order to pass the state law which can conflict with the federal law.
 
Reba said:
Governors get executive experience in their position.

CEO's, business owners, and senior executives of organizations get executive experience in their positions.

Senators do not get executive experience (unless you count bossing around the secretary) in their positions as senators. Some senators have executive experience prior to becoming senators by virtue of positions they held in the private sector, such as owning businesses.
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Presidents of the US get executive experience. Reality TV stars do not, unless you count barking at your kids and camera operators.
 
Reba said:
If you want to change the way things are run in your own state, then the state legislature and governor are more important to you.

Governors get executive experience in their position.

CEO's, business owners, and senior executives of organizations get executive experience in their positions.

Senators do not get executive experience (unless you count bossing around the secretary) in their positions as senators. Some senators have executive experience prior to becoming senators by virtue of positions they held in the private sector, such as owning businesses.
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Yep.
 
saywhatkid said:
Presidents of the US get executive experience. Reality TV stars do not, unless you count barking at your kids and camera operators.
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I prefer the President enter the presidency with executive experience already under his belt rather than learning everything thru OJT.

I never said that I would prefer Palin for President. In fact, I posted the opposite. I hope that she doesn't run.

There are more potential candidates for 2012 than Obama and Palin.
 
Reba said:
I prefer the President enter the presidency with executive experience already under his belt rather than learning everything thru OJT.

I never said that I would prefer Palin for President. In fact, I posted the opposite. I hope that she doesn't run.

There are more potential candidates for 2012 than Obama and Palin.
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correct me if I'm wrong.

most Presidential candidates are Senators, right?
 
Reba said:
I prefer the President enter the presidency with executive experience already under his belt rather than learning everything thru OJT.

I never said that I would prefer Palin for President. In fact, I posted the opposite. I hope that she doesn't run.

There are more potential candidates for 2012 than Obama and Palin.
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We agree. If we are choosing between those two in 2012, we are screwed.

My point was to bring the executive experience levels into focus. If it were to come down to Palin and Obama, Palin would be on the side of lesser executive experience. Her abbreviated term as Governor would not equal the 4 years as President by Obama. However, I would prefer to have a 2012 ballot with neither of these names on it.
 
Jiro said:
correct me if I'm wrong.

most Presidential candidates are Senators, right?
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Are you asking about successful ones or all who have tried?
 
saywhatkid said:
We agree. If we are choosing between those two in 2012, we are screwed. . . However, I would prefer to have a 2012 ballot with neither of these names on it.
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:h5:
 
Like I said, there are several potential candidates. Some are willing, a few are not at the moment.
 
2008
Obama = Senator
Clinton = Senator
Edwards = Senator
McCain = Senator
Dodd = Senator
Biden = Senator
Bayh = Senator
Gravel = Senator
Vilsack = Governor
Richardson = Governor
Kucinich = Congressman

2004
Kerry = Senator
Edwards = Senator
Liberman = Senator
Braun = Senator
Graham = Senator
Dean = Governor
Kucinich = Congressman
Gephardt = House Minority Leader
Clark = General
Sharpton = :roll:
 
How about those who actually served in the presidency? Do you have a list of all the presidents?
 
saywhatkid said:
And when Pelosi was named top Democrat, you were thrilled. Does that mean you like the idea of 2 MORE years of being screwed?
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I guess you missed that 63 House seats change in favor of Republicans, then? We can thank Obama and Pelosi for that. Keep screwing America for the next two years and we'll see a change in 2012 when people will finally (they already know now) vote to replace Obama for a conservative Republican. Keep Pelosi as the minority leader so people can be continually reminded of her disastrous leadership that cost H.R.s many their seats. And it's likely the H.R. and Senate will pick up more seats in 2012, too, with the way things are going now. We'll see.

Even younger voters, a key part of Obama's coalition, are peeling away. In '08, Obama won 66 percent of voters 18-29 years of age. Now, he's at 58 percent. That might seem pretty good, but not when you consider his deterioration among other age groups. Obama has dropped 5 percentage points among voters in and around middle age, and 8 percent with voters above 65. If those trends continue, he'll lose.

Then there are white voters. In '08, Obama won 43 percent of whites. Now, he's at 37 percent -- a dangerously low number for his re-election hopes. He won 67 percent of Hispanic voters in 2008; now, he's at 58 percent. Even support among black voters, a bedrock for Obama, has ticked downward; after winning 95 percent of blacks in '08, he's now at 89 percent.
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Obama's poll numbers point to his defeat in 2012 | Washington Examiner
 
I think I counted:

16 governors

16 senators

17 congressmen

13 vice presidents


Some were two or more categories.
 
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