Rush Limbaugh calls on conservatives to take back nation

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jillio said:
The problem here is, the party that Rush wants to regain control is the one that has gotten us into the mess that Obama has been elected to straighten out. Rush is proposing more of the same that created the situation this country finds itself in. As I stated prior, the true definition of insanity is doing the same old thing over and over and expecting to get different results. That is exactly what Rush proposes we do.
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Hear Again said:
I've been listening to Rush for years (to get an idea of where Conservatives stand) and not once have I heard him criticize anything former President Bush has done. In Rush's eyes, Bush can do no wrong.
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Then you've been listening to him much more than I ever did or do--I can't stand to listen to him much at all.

Other conservatives (which includes some Republicans) did criticize some of Bush's actions (and inactions).
 
Reba said:
If that's true, then why is Congress still including pork and tax increases? Haven't they learned their lesson yet?
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They are not including the same amount of pork, and the tax increases are not affecting the same population as the tax increases the Repubs have been responsible for. As I've stated prior, revision takes time and must be done in increments. You still seem to be expecting Obama to fix in 90 days what took 8 years to create.:roll: And Rush is recommending that we do more of the same that created the problem.

Let's be patient with the Republican president, and give him 8 years to royally f*** things up. But the Democratic president has to step in and fix it for us in 90 days.
 
Reba said:
Then you've been listening to him much more than I ever did or do--I can't stand to listen to him much at all.

Other conservatives (which includes some Republicans) did criticize some of Bush's actions (and inactions).
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I can't stand listening to Rush either, but I do my best so I can get a somewhat (emphasis on the word "somewhat") balanced perspective.

You're exactly right. Sean Hannity is one example of a Conservative who has openly criticized former President Bush. With that being the case, I have far more respect for Sean than I do Rush.
 
jillio said:
Increase conservatism to combat the problems that conservative policies have created? Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Let's all just go beat our heads against a brick wall to stop the headache.
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When was the last long-term real conservative policy implemented? Have taxes been permanently slashed and I somehow missed that announcement? Did the USA resolve the illegal alien problem? Did the federal government get out of the social services business? Did the federal government quit making so many restrictions on corporations that they no longer took their business overseas?

Since there are very few Congressmen who vote conservatively, how did all these supposedly conservative bills get passed? Mind you, I said "conservative", not Republican.
 
Reba said:
When was the last long-term real conservative policy implemented? Have taxes been permanently slashed and I somehow missed that announcement? Did the USA resolve the illegal alien problem? Did the federal government get out of the social services business? Did the federal government quit making so many restrictions on corporations that they no longer took their business overseas?

Since there are very few Congressmen who vote conservatively, how did all these supposedly conservative bills get passed? Mind you, I said "conservative", not Republican.
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Conservative is subjective. One can define conservative only in relation to its opposite. Since the Republicans are so fond of labeling the Democrats "liberal", "Marxist" and "socialist", that is what must be used as a comparative to define "conservative". And the Republicans, in case you haven't noticed, are also quite fond of identifying themselves as "conservative."
 
I'm confused. What's the difference between a Republican and a Conservative or a Democrat and a Liberal? Are they just labels and nothing more?
 
Hear Again said:
I'm confused. What's the difference between a Republican and a Conservative or a Democrat and a Liberal? Are they just labels and nothing more?
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There's Liberal Republican and Conservative Democrat as well
 
Hear Again said:
I'm confused. What's the difference between a Republican and a Conservative or a Democrat and a Liberal? Are they just labels and nothing more?
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"Republican" and "Democrat" are members of their respective political parties.

In the USA, "conservative" and "liberal" are usually lower case words used to describe a person's political philosophy.
 
Jiro said:
There's Liberal Republican and Conservative Democrat as well
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You're making it confusing by capitalizing "Liberal" and "Conservative". If you use upper case, that means a person is a member of a formal political party.

There can be liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats. That means a member of the Republican party can have liberal beliefs, and a member of the Democrat party can have conservative beliefs.
 
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Reba said:
"Republican" and "Democrat" are members of their respective political parties.

In the USA, "conservative" and "liberal" are usually lower case words used to describe a person's political philosophy.
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:ty: for the explanation, Reba. :)
 
I have to disagree that the country has developed all of these problems in 8 years, as the liberals love to say.

One must look at several years and decades of both parties mucking it up.

I didn't see the Repubs cutting pork over the last 8 years, despite Dem reccommedations to do so.
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I have to ask , When have the Democrats asked for anything but more pork and more spending in the last 8 years?
No argument that both parties are too free with our money.

Although, specifically the Mortgage Crisis, the Republicans have had a hand in it they were not running it - that was Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and BO's buddy Franklin Rains, to name a few. The Bush Admin and several RINOS and Republicans called for restraint on Freddie and Fannie many times and were rebuffed as - "Those rich Republicans hate the poor and do not want you to own a house"

There is certainly enough liability by both parties for the present state of the country.


As far as the continuation of Limbaugh, he has many equally out-there liberal counterparts in the MSM.
 
Hear Again said:
:ty: for the explanation, Reba. :)
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You're welcome.

It gets confusing because other countries do have active political parties with names "Liberal" and "Conservative" but that doesn't apply in the USA. :)

In the USA, we do have parties with those names but they are not power players in our national government right now.

Examples:

Liberal Party of New York Home Page

The American Conservative Party | Returning to Small Government, Fiscal Restraint, and Individual Rights & Responsibilities.

http://www.conservativepartyusa.org/
 
Reba said:
You're making it confusing by capitalizing "Liberal" and "Conservative". If you use upper case, that means a person is a member of a formal political party.

There can be liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats. That means a member of the Republican party can have liberal beliefs, and a member of the Democrat party can have conservative beliefs.
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Yup, majority of southern states are used to be conservative Democrat until end of reconstruction in 60's, just right after LBJ signed on civil rights and transition to republican isn't generally complete until mid 90's when republican won to control the congress for first time in almost 50 years ago.
 
Reba said:
You're welcome.

It gets confusing because other countries do have active political parties with names "Liberal" and "Conservative" but that doesn't apply in the USA. :)

In the USA, we do have parties with those names but they are not power players in our national government right now.

Examples:

Liberal Party of New York Home Page

The American Conservative Party | Returning to Small Government, Fiscal Restraint, and Individual Rights & Responsibilities.

http://www.conservativepartyusa.org/
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Reba,

No wonder I was confused. :giggle:

:ty: for the links. :)
 
ASLGAL said:
I have to disagree that the country has developed all of these problems in 8 years, as the liberals love to say.
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The trouble with your assertion is that Republicans also blame former President Bush for the problems we've accumulated over the past 8 years. That's part of the reason (probably a large part) why Obama won the 2008 election by a landslide over McCain.
 
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