Rush Limbaugh calls on conservatives to take back nation

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jillio said:
12 step programs are founded on a concept of spirituality, not of religious doctrine. It is stressed in all 12 step programs that the concept of God is one that is specific to the individual. Higher Power is the term most often used, and persons participating in 12 step recovery programs are consistently told that their concept of a Higher Power can be anything they choose it to be.

Addiction is, in effect, a desperate attempt to maintain control over that which the individual is unable to control. The idea behind relinguishing that control to the concept of a Higher Power is intended to break through the powerful denial that every addict has...that they can control their disease on their own.

While 12 step programs have been shown to be effective in maintaining recovery, they are not, by any means, the only way to achieve recovery. They are simply support groups that are effective in allowing an individual to maintain abstinence, not a means toward facillitating the change necessary to enter into recovery.
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:ty: for the correction, Jillio. :)
 
Hear Again said:
:ty: for the correction, Jillio. :)
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Not a problem. Just did not want the basic concept that the 12 step programs are founded on to be distorted.

I think it is also important to note that an individual is never "cured" from addiction, but, like any chronic disease, maintains the recovery through life long efforts.
 
jillio said:
Not a problem. Just did not want the basic concept that the 12 step programs are founded on to be distorted.

I think it is also important to note that an individual is never "cured" from addiction, but, like any chronic disease, maintains the recovery through life long efforts.
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I know I agreed with Reba, but I also agree with you. When it comes to drug addiction, I'm in the middle. On one hand, I think it's a choice a person makes, but I also believe it isn't easy to fight an addiction and that it is a lifelong struggle. I don't know...perhaps I'm being contradictory?
 
Hear Again said:
I know I agreed with Reba, but I also agree with you. When it comes to drug addiction, I'm in the middle. On one hand, I think it's a choice a person makes, but I also believe it isn't easy to fight an addiction and that it is a lifelong struggle. I don't know...perhaps I'm being contradictory?
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Addiction is a coping mechanism. Some are predisposed to using means such as drugs and/or alcohol as that coping mechanism. While one may have a "drug of choice", one does not make the choice to have a genetic and environmental predisposition to adopting faulty and ineffective coping mechanisms. One only makes the choice to recover from such.
 
jillio said:
Addiction is a coping mechanism. Some are predisposed to using means such as drugs and/or alcohol as that coping mechanism. While one may have a "drug of choice", one does not make the choice to have a genetic and environmental predisposition to adopting faulty and ineffective coping mechanisms. One only makes the choice to recover from such.
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But how do you account for a person's willingness to try a drug for the very first time? They are making the choice to take that drug, right? Environmental and genetic factors may come into play, but at the same time, a person who takes drugs is deciding for themselves to take that first hit, etc. As someone who wants to enter the field of psychiatry, this is something I will have to seriously re-examine.
 
Hear Again said:
But how do you account for a person's willingness to try a drug for the very first time? They are making the choice to take that drug, right? Environmental and genetic factors may come into play, but at the same time, a person who takes drugs is deciding for themselves to take that first hit, etc. As someone who wants to enter the field of psychiatry, this is something I will have to seriously re-examine.
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Does an individual with psychosis make a conscious choice to engage in their first psychotic break? Does an idividual with bi-polar disorder consciously choose with reasonable and logical forethought to stop taking their meds? While it may appear that the choice has been made by the individual, the indiviual's ability to choose is seriously compromised.
 
jillio said:
Does an individual with psychosis make a conscious choice to engage in their first psychotic break? Does an idividual with bi-polar disorder consciously choose with reasonable and logical forethought to stop taking their meds? While it may appear that the choice has been made by the individual, the indiviual's ability to choose is seriously compromised.
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I stand corrected. :ty: for clarifying, Jillio. That makes sense. :)
 
The fact that you are attempting to defend your position through personal attacks is evidence of a lack of substantial support. I am not working on a degree...I have successfully completed 3 degrees.
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No personal attacks were issued by me to you. See it how ever it makes you feel better.

Kudos on your degrees. I had not had time to stop by AD for a while and thought someone said you were working on a new one. Perhaps another member.
I am moving to a completely different arena for after retirement and working on different degree fields.

Since we haven't spoken in a while, How is your son doing? Do you get to any of the DeafMeets in Cincy or Dayton?

The thread has taken a turn, We need a whole thread on addictions.
 
RNC chief Steele: Limbaugh is more a performer than GOP leader

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele is taking issue with the notion that Rush Limbaugh is the de facto leader of the GOP, calling the conservative radio talk show host an entertainer whose comments can be ugly.

Steele, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said in an interview with CNN that he, rather than Limbaugh, is "the de facto leader of the Republican Party."

And Steele described Limbaugh as a performer.

"Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh's whole thing is entertainment," Steele said. "Yes, it is incendiary. Yes, it is ugly."

Limbaugh fired back on his radio show Monday that the GOP leader appears to be supporting President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

"Why do you claim to lead the Republican Party when you seem obsessed with seeing to it President Obama succeeds?" Limbaugh said to Steele.

"I frankly am stunned that the chairman of the Republican National Committee endorses such an agenda. I have to conclude that he does because he attacks me for wanting it to fail," said Limbaugh.

Last month, Steele, a former lieutenant governor of Maryland, was elected chairman of the RNC. He is the first African-American to lead the Republican Party. At the time of his election, Steele said that "Rush will say what Rush has to say; we'll do what we have to do."

Steele made his latest comments regarding Limbaugh on CNN's "D.L. Hughley Breaks the News," which aired this weekend. The Steele interview was taped before Limbaugh's appearance before the Conservative Political Action Conference, an annual meeting of conservatives from across the nation. VideoWatch Steele, Hughley talk politics »

Limbaugh brought a cheering crowd to its feet several times as he called on fellow conservatives to take back the country.

He used his self-described "first national address," which ran more than an hour longer than his allotted 20 minutes, to accuse President Obama of inspiring fear in Americans in order to push a liberal agenda of "big government."

Limbaugh also backed up comments he made earlier this year in which he said he hoped Obama failed.

"What is so strange about being honest and saying I want Barack Obama to fail if his mission is to restructure and re-form this country so that capitalism and individual liberty are not its foundation?" he said.

But a top Republican in Congress disagreed.

"I don't think anyone wants anything to fail right now," House Republican Whip Eric Cantor said on ABC's "This Week." "We have such challenges. What we need to do is we need to put forth solutions to the problems that real families are facing today."

RNC spokesman Alex Conant on Monday did not directly address Steele's comments about Limbaugh but pointed out the back-and-forth between the White House and the conservative radio host.

"Rahm Emanuel and the Democrats know they lose an argument with the Republican Party on substance, so they are building straw men to attack and distract," he said. "The feud between radio host Rush and Rahm makes great political theater, but it is a sideshow to the important work going on in Washington.

"RNC Chairman Michael Steele and elected Republicans are focused on fighting for reform and winning elections. The Democrats' problem is that the American people are growing skeptical of the massive government spending being pushed by congressional leaders like [House Speaker] Nancy Pelosi," Conant said.

A spokesman for Limbaugh said the radio host did not have an immediate response, but added he would probably address Steele's comments Monday on his nationally syndicated radio program.
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in short - GOP Chairman's telling Limbaugh to STFU & GTFO and to stop representing & speaking for GOP :laugh2: btw - surprised that GOP Chairman is a black man?
 
ASLGAL said:
No personal attacks were issued by me to you. See it how ever it makes you feel better.

Kudos on your degrees. I had not had time to stop by AD for a while and thought someone said you were working on a new one. Perhaps another member.
I am moving to a completely different arena for after retirement and working on different degree fields.

Since we haven't spoken in a while, How is your son doing? Do you get to any of the DeafMeets in Cincy or Dayton?

The thread has taken a turn, We need a whole thread on addictions.
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I suppose it is a matter of perception.

Thank you. Finishing my Ph.D. has not permitted me to get to Cincy or Dayton for quite some time, unfortunately.

My son is doing well, thanks. He will be graduating with his BA this spring.

A discussion of addictions certainly could take up a whole other thread.:P
 
"Why do you claim to lead the Republican Party when you seem obsessed with seeing to it President Obama succeeds?" Limbaugh said to Steele.
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... and what's wrong with that? Oh right, because then the democrats may get more votes. It's all a game to Rush, that's what it is. He don't care about the moral values or any sort of that crap. He just care about how many listeners he can get so he can get bigger bucks out of the advertisers.

He's an entertainer. Nothing more.
 
Banjo said:
... and what's wrong with that? Oh right, because then the democrats may get more votes. It's all a game to Rush, that's what it is. He don't care about the moral values or any sort of that crap. He just care about how many listeners he can get so he can get bigger bucks out of the advertisers.

He's an entertainer. Nothing more.
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I also see him as a poor loser who hates to see a Democratic President in the White House.

In the past, I heard about Rush Limbaugh so much so I bought one of his books at an used book sale to find out what he really is. After reading the book, I found him so immature. Sorry, Republican ADers, that is my opinion of Rush Limbaugh.
 
Buffalo said:
I also see him as a poor loser who hates to see a Democratic President in the White House.

In the past, I heard about Rush Limbaugh so much so I bought one of his books at an used book sale to find out what he really is. After reading the book, I found him so immature. Sorry, Republican ADers, that is my opinion of Rush Limbaugh.
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nothing to be sorry about. Most of intelligent Republicans don't like him. He's just one crazy coked-up racist bumbling fool...... :crazy:
 
Today I heard on MSNBC that Rush wants Obama to fail. :roll: If Rush believes in the Constitution, you'd think he would do everything he could to stand behind our President instead of wishing the worst for America. What I find ironic is how he wants Obama to fail yet he never had a single word to say about how inept President Bush was and what a mess he left this country in.
 
GOP chairman Steele backs off Limbaugh criticism - CNN.com

Apparently, the GOP is now recognizing the influence of Rush, and agreeing with his statements regarding his desire to see the failure of the Democratic President.

I have to question any party that puts partisan politics above the good of the country. Failure of any administration only has negative impact on the people of this nation. To support a negative impact simply to advance a political party is not only irresponsible, it reeks of Fascist thinking. Seems to me, I remember the Republicans calling for bi-partisanship in politics just a few short months ago. Sure have changed that tune now.:roll:
 
jillio said:
GOP chairman Steele backs off Limbaugh criticism - CNN.com

Apparently, the GOP is now recognizing the influence of Rush, and agreeing with his statements regarding his desire to see the failure of the Democratic President.

I have to question any party that puts partisan politics above the good of the country. Failure of any administration only has negative impact on the people of this nation. To support a negative impact simply to advance a political party is not only irresponsible, it reeks of Fascist thinking. Seems to me, I remember the Republicans calling for bi-partisanship in politics just a few short months ago. Sure have changed that tune now.:roll:
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ugh...

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