Palin leaves open option of war with Russia

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Liebling:-))) said:
If you want to attack other countries to make a war which mean is you start it, not other countries. You are responsiblity for death of innoncent people including soliders, not other countries. It consider as a war crime.
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and why would we want to attack other countries out of aggression? Your statement is fallacious. Please review our extensive history of military conflicts. probably 99% of it are for good cause.

Liebling:-))) said:
Soldiers aren't fighting for our freedom because we are already free!
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and what will happen if you don't maintain the lawn? It will grow back. We have to maintain our freedom because the very core ideals of democracy infuriates other people and we are constantly under threat. They do not want it in their country and they hate our ideal of freedom and capitalism. It's life. You live with peace because soldiers are out there fighting for you to preserve it for you. Not always these kind of things are published in newspaper. My friend was on several classified missions (yes the threats were real) but it's not published in newspaper. It's best if most of threats are not published in newspaper - why cause more chaos and paranoia? Public doesn't need to know unless they are in danger (like WTC).

Liebling:-))) said:

I want you to answer my question...

How did other countries (example Saddam Hussein) threaten our freedom and Peace?

Are they fighting for our freedom and Peace?

Did they really die for our freedom or more government lies?

Is those word "freedom" most important?
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not my problem. Tell that to Bush Administration. Don't you recall that I want Bush Administration be held for war crimes in Iraq? But don't be very selective. Iraq's just one bad egg. There are plenty of other justifiable wars.
 
I always thought if we have war with Russia, everyone dies because we are both nuclear superpowers.
 
Bottesini said:
I always thought if we have war with Russia, everyone dies because we are both nuclear superpowers.
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believe me - even if we get in war with China or Russia... nobody is going to use nuclear warheads because there's only one outcome in any conflict - a total annihilation. Nobody wants that... not even their own government. You can bet your ass that any leader's subordinates will defy and remove him from the power.
 
Bottesini said:
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Прежний глухой Агент КГБ

This says by his avatar "Former KGB agent deaf"

So are you supporting Russia to start a war?
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I don't think it was Russia who started the war. Russia acted in self-defense... Well I dunno - :dunno:
 
Jiro said:
I don't think it was Russia who started the war. Russia acted in self-defense... Well I dunno - :dunno:
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I read more carefully his article. He is afraid Palin would have the power to attack Russia.

But still why would someone brag they are KGB?
 
Bottesini said:
I read more carefully his article. He is afraid Palin would have the power to attack Russia.

But still why would someone brag they are KGB?
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:eek3: How? Palin has no authority over military unless she's plotting to have McCain suffer a serious illness so that she can temporarily have Presidential power.
 
Jiro said:
:eek3: How? Palin has no authority over military unless she's plotting to have McCain suffer a serious illness so that she can temporarily have Presidential power.
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I know. So why is he putting up the article like Palin's view would actually matter?

I am not campaigning for McCain, just in case it looks like it.

I am firmly for Obama.
 
Bottesini said:
I know. So why is he putting up the article like Palin's view would actually matter?

I am not campaigning for McCain, just in case it looks like it.

I am firmly for Obama.
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:dunno: you'll have to ask him
 
First paranoid about SAMs in Poland, NOW Palin? Sounds like rhetoric to justify Russia's mobilizations that is at the same time walking a thin line to avoid restarting a new cold war.
 
Jiro said:
I don't think it was Russia who started the war. Russia acted in self-defense... Well I dunno - :dunno:
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Let's say Mexico barged into the United States and recognized the sovereignity (Mexico and, as in Ossetia and that other one, Nicaragua) of California and New Mexico. They station troops there and support "rebel factions." We'd be quick to say that Mexico is not recognizing the United States' sovereignity.

Russia did just that. They barged into Georgia, supported two states within the Georgian nation, and supported its rebels.

The only solution that remains for the international community (and it is only two countries that recognize Osetia and Abkhazia - Russia and Nicaragua) is to help Georgia defend itself against a greater bully: Russian-backed rebels who used a full-scale force.

Russia provoked. Georgia defended. NATO wants to make sure it doesn't happen again. That's all I read from the article. Palin is saying that, because of the United States' commitment to NATO, we'd have the duty to defend Georgia - if it was a NATO country.

I don't see anything new from this article - just a lot of tough-talkin', cool-posin', and flashing of gang symbols.
 
Wokamuka said:
Let's say Mexico barged into the United States and recognized the sovereignity (Mexico and, as in Ossetia and that other one, Nicaragua) of California and New Mexico. They station troops there and support "rebel factions." We'd be quick to say that Mexico is not recognizing the United States' sovereignity.

Russia did just that. They barged into Georgia, supported two states within the Georgian nation, and supported its rebels.

The only solution that remains for the international community (and it is only two countries that recognize Osetia and Abkhazia - Russia and Nicaragua) is to help Georgia defend itself against a greater bully: Russian-backed rebels who used a full-scale force.

Russia provoked. Georgia defended. NATO wants to make sure it doesn't happen again. That's all I read from the article. Palin is saying that, because of the United States' commitment to NATO, we'd have the duty to defend Georgia - if it was a NATO country.

I don't see anything new from this article - just a lot of tough-talkin', cool-posin', and flashing of gang symbols.
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:dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:
 
Jiro said:
and why would we want to attack other countries out of aggression? Your statement is fallacious. Please review our extensive history of military conflicts. probably 99% of it are for good cause.
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I use those word "You" as a general without fingerpoint to which person or countries... I thought you would convince it but you doesn't because you said that my general statement is fallacious which mean that Hilter did not attacked other countries out of aggression or Bush did not attack Iraq out of aggression. Correct?

and what will happen if you don't maintain the lawn? It will grow back. We have to maintain our freedom because the very core ideals of democracy infuriates other people and we are constantly under threat. They do not want it in their country and they hate our ideal of freedom and capitalism. It's life. You live with peace because soldiers are out there fighting for you to preserve it for you. Not always these kind of things are published in newspaper. My friend was on several classified missions (yes the threats were real) but it's not published in newspaper. It's best if most of threats are not published in newspaper - why cause more chaos and paranoia? Public doesn't need to know unless they are in danger (like WTC).
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Did you know that Bush ignored warning about WTC before it was happened?

Fact: Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

Fact: Saddam Hussein do not have WMD.

Do you still call it as freedom, that many soliders are being force to go Iraq and die? Did they really die for our freedom or more government lies?


not my problem. Tell that to Bush Administration. Don't you recall that I want Bush Administration be held for war crimes in Iraq? But don't be very selective. Iraq's just one bad egg. There are plenty of other justifiable wars.
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Denial? :hmm: Okay, you don't have to answer my questions, I know the answer.
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Bottesini said:
So are you supporting Russia to start a war?
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Georgia started it in first place to kill 2,000 innocent people in South Ossitea before Russia as "Peacemaker" attacked Georgia.
 
The problem with the "Cold War" is that there were no war reparations to give/receive. Russia lost and there were no reparations.

Western Civilization had engaged in a Cold War so that Russia's folly would not extend to the world. Today, Western Civilization pays the price while Russia, cowardly having a revolution, denies all wrong-doing of the "former" government.

I daresay, "Welcome to the pre-cursor to World War III, folks."
 
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