Opinion on Cloning?

[KarissaMann05]

It's because, doctors/scientists want people's money. It's always about the money.

Simple answer is:They're just greedy who don't give a damn about everyone or everything else.

So, all I'm with ya.

 

[jillio]

nature's a funny thing. most would expect 100% similarity but... I guess that's not the case anymore.


YES ABSOLUTELY! WITH MY FULL SUPPORT!


yes that is true. Umbilical Cord is rich in genetic material. You know science is always improving and advancing to the point where it'll become more humane and ethical. I truly believe stem cell is the Messiah to many nerve-related damages. This means deaf/blind/disabled/etc. people can be repaired (not cured).

Actually, even identical (monozygotic) twins are not 100% identical. And fraternal twins (dyzygotic) are no more similar in DNA or characteristics than are sibs born at different times.

I agree. I see a lot of promise in stem cell research.

 

[Pinky]

nature's a funny thing. most would expect 100% similarity but... I guess that's not the case anymore.


YES ABSOLUTELY! WITH MY FULL SUPPORT!


yes that is true. Umbilical Cord is rich in genetic material. You know science is always improving and advancing to the point where it'll become more humane and ethical. I truly believe stem cell is the Messiah to many nerve-related damages. This means deaf/blind/disabled/etc. people can be repaired (not cured).

I believe in Stem Cell Research. It will be great help to people to get heal from disease and disabled. But You said no cured? How did you know?

How about do you support Cloning?

 

[Jiro]

I believe in Stem Cell Research. It will be great help to people to get heal from disease and disabled. But You said no cured? How did you know?

How about do you support Cloning?

Remember - for now... Stem Cell is mainly for nerve-related damages. Right now - nerve damages are unrepairable and they cannot be regenerated like a paper cut skin. It is a permanent damage and you're screwed for life. But not for Stem Cell research. it can grow that specific nerve and the surgeon will implant it in your damaged area. We have a band-aid for our paper cuts... incisions... wounds... organ perforation... but not for nerve. With this stem cell research - we will finally have a band-aid for nerves.

Stem Cell is not the same as cure because the cure (antibiotic, medicine, pills) eliminates the infection, disease, etc from the body - thus returning your body to its original state. Nerve Damage cannot be cured to its original state but it can be repaired - just like patching up the hole in the wall but the hole IS still there anyway. The wall is not in its original state. Get the difference? I hope my example is not making you lol

If you want to go further into the future - maybe it can actually create two perfectly functional eyes for you. Stem Cell Research is truly the Messiah... for now... the only thing that's holding it back is the damn annoying extreme anti-abortionists (no offense to you pro-lifers but you know what I mean)

 

[Pinky]

Remember - for now... Stem Cell is mainly for nerve-related damages. Right now - nerve damages are unrepairable and they cannot be regenerated like a paper cut skin. It is a permanent damage and you're screwed for life. But not for Stem Cell research. it can grow that specific nerve and the surgeon will implant it in your damaged area. We have a band-aid for our paper cuts... incisions... wounds... organ perforation... but not for nerve. With this stem cell research - we will finally have a band-aid for nerves.

Stem Cell is not the same as cure because the cure (antibiotic, medicine, pills) eliminates the infection, disease, etc from the body - thus returning your body to its original state. Nerve Damage cannot be cured to its original state but it can be repaired - just like patching up the hole in the wall but the hole IS still there anyway. The wall is not in its original state. Get the difference? I hope my example is not making you lol

If you want to go further into the future - maybe it can actually create two perfectly functional eyes for you. Stem Cell Research is truly the Messiah... for now... the only thing that's holding it back is the damn annoying extreme anti-abortionists (no offense to you pro-lifers but you know what I mean)

I understand how is that explain. I am not dizzy or upset. I have to wait until 5 to 10 years later. We will see what happen in future. Yeah, I am anti-abortion. I am same with Karissa, Maria and other.

 

[Maria]

I found it out about Clone today. Me and Sunshinelady discussed about clone what is that mean. Her husband explained to me on VP. I never hear of Clone before. It's new to me. I am researching about Baby Test Tube. I don't support it. Because human cloned don't have an emotion like laugh, mad, crying, smile, feel and soul.

The DNA is very delicate. The doctors/scientists could make one or more errors in DNA, if they create a clone. It could be a monsterous or die. It don't live very long.

I rather be mother natural than clone.

I am curious is clone and stem cell are same or different?

I don't need get triple or sextuplet babies. I am not wish for my future baby's alike from clone. I prefer real baby natural from our alike.

Yep, I agree about " natural " thing. Let it forms on its own without a man-made doin' it. I believe in miracle rather than technology thing.

 

[Jiro]

Yep, I agree about " natural " thing. Let it forms on its own without a man-made doin' it. I believe in miracle rather than technology thing.

you can count on miracle that rarely comes or a technology.... aka advanced medical technology which is why you're still alive and so do rest of AD'ers - medicines, surgery, etc. Genetic Engineering's next. That means - an end to some cancers, more effective medications targeted for patient, etc.

don't view DNA manipulation as human playing God. I think that's ridiculous and irrational justification. Isn't horticulture same as playing god? cross-breeding animals/pets? putting premature baby in incubator? After all - that is man-made intervention and technology at work.

 

[Maria]

you can count on miracle that rarely comes or a technology.... aka advanced medical technology which is why you're still alive and so do rest of AD'ers - medicines, surgery, etc. Genetic Engineering's next. That means - an end to some cancers, more effective medications targeted for patient, etc.

I can understand what you were talkin' about, friend. I am talkin' about " clone " itself that I am against - it's somethin' that the doctors/scientists are usin' their equipments via technology to create it without allowin' it to be " natural " on its own.

don't view DNA manipulation as human playing God. I think that's ridiculous and irrational justification. Isn't horticulture same as playing god? cross-breeding animals/pets? putting premature baby in incubator? After all - that is man-made intervention and technology at work.

Speakin' of clone : Well, I believe that they are playin' God - that's my view the way I see it. They are tryin' to be above than God by makin' it soo perfect. In fact, no man on this earth CAN make it perfect. They could make it to be a monsterous or die.

You mentioned about puttin' premature baby in incubator -- well, that's another story as if, this baby has a jaundice or somethin'. That's floursecent light thing to help this baby to get well - so much just like " sun " we need to get a vitamin for our bodies to balance health. If, there's no " sun " out there all year round, then we may need to take Vitamin K, right ? I am not talkin' about what technology they can do to help savin' - I am talkin' about clone that they are usin' through technology unnaturally. There are 2 different issues here. If, you are speakin' of Stem cell, then that's fine.

 

[Jiro]

Speakin' of clone : Well, I believe that they are playin' God - that's my view the way I see it. They are tryin' to be above than God by makin' it soo perfect. In fact, no man on this earth CAN make it perfect. They could make it to be a monsterous or die.

You mentioned about puttin' premature baby in incubator -- well, that's another story as if, this baby has a jaundice or somethin'. That's floursecent light thing to help this baby to get well - so much just like " sun " we need to get a vitamin for our bodies to balance health. If, there's no " sun " out there all year round, then we may need to take Vitamin K, right ? I am not talkin' about what technology they can do to help savin' - I am talkin' about clone that they are usin' through technology unnaturally. There are 2 different issues here. If, you are speakin' of Stem cell, then that's fine.

ah-ha.... here's a small problem on huge issue. "Cloning".... such a sensitive issue with some positive and more negative connotations... It is such a broad broad subject. Exactly what is cloning? First thing pops up in their head - an exact copy of a person next to you as if you have been xeroxed.

It gets very confusing along the way. I'd like to try to be as specific as possible to ensure that nobody gets scared and confused. First of all - cloning a human - a duplication of a person.... I highly doubt this is likely to happen because of tremendous difficulty and HEFTY cost involved in this process - not to mention that this method is highly controversial and unethical. United Nations will undoubtedly create a worldwide treaty to ban human cloning if we ever get to that stage in the future (wayyyy in the future).

HOWEVER...... stem cell research is technically "cloning" because in order to grow specific body part for you such as nerve/tissue/organ... a host and your DNA are needed to make this work - in other word... a clone. so in a way... they are actually creating a clone of your body parts. For example - a dying patient is awaiting for his lung transplant. The scientists can infuse your DNA into a pig to grow a nice pair of healthy sturdy lungs that will be nearly 100% compatible to your body. This means - bye bye immune-suppression medications... any chance of rejection... health complications... etc. After the pig grows to a certain size, the pig will be killed and its lungs will be removed and used for your lung transplant. So yes... to kill a life to save your life... (btw - the pig lung transplant has already been done and it was a success. this process has a popular nickname - Chimera - half human, half animal). This process obviously drew many many angry attentions. People were afraid about animals becoming human-like. "What if the chimera ran off into the wild and breed more chimeras? what if they actually developed a soul? what if they became indestructible for us and they will destroy us?" etc. etc. This is actually a combination of stem cell research + genetic engineering. I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves.

Another field of cloning - they can actually make a clone of animal... which we have seen in the news - sheep, dog, cow, etc. During that cloning process especially agricultural animals - they are genetically enhanced to whatever - leaner meat, produce enriched-milk, grow faster, etc.

so you're against human cloning but support stem cell.... that's going to be a problem since it's a contradictory statement. Stem Cell is, in effect, a cloning of yourself except the scientists prevent it from growing into a full person. It is technically.... "killing a life to save a life"

 

[dreama]

Cloning is always wrong.

 

[Sunshinelady]

Cloning is always wrong.

hm... "wrong" but what is the point?

 

[netrox]

It all depends on HOW you clone a human. If you're attempting to clone a human being as a different individual, then I would say, well, if cloning a human being results in a shortened lifespan and worsened the quality of life, then ABSOLUTELY NO WAY.

But if cloning does not affect the quality of life and won't affect future generations of that clone, then why should we forbid that?

Remember, a cloned human is STILL a human being. The only difference is that the cloned human being is an identical copy of the original human being. Twin is a clone of the other twin at the same time.

There are a LOT of problems with cloning though. We just learned about epigenetics which may explain why even with the SAME DNA strands, cloned animals are still sicker and have shorter lifespans. Epigenetics explain that within DNA, there are "switches" and the switches do change through life. Some switches are turned off by default by birth and then turned on in adulthood or visa versa. So, when you're born, some of the switches are "turned off" and when you're an adult, some of the switches are "turned on" through environmental or dietary changes. When you clone a DNA of an adult into an egg, it's getting identical switches as well and that is BAD because you are NOT supposed to have some switches ON by birth.

That is WHY twins who look identical at birth start to look less identical as they grow older... the switches are changing which affect their appearances over time and also their risks of cancer or heart diseases are altered by switches.

What are "switches" for? Switches are helpful when they are needed to tell parts of cell to stop producing (you don't want to keep making more and more heart tissues when you got enough of it) or to help prevent cancer cells from multiplying out of control. Sometimes switches fail and as a result, you get cancer.

 

[dreama]

by Paulette Roseboro, Executive Director, African American Life Alliance

I come before this committee as a concerned citizen requesting that we debate and answer all the logical physical and moral questions involved in this process before there is any sanctioned continuation of research into human cloning. I fully support the idea which says, "just because we have the technological capability to do it, that does not give us the authority to interfere with the natural course of things".

Although many in the human genetic research field are saying that there is a vast difference between animal and human cloning, we are at a crossroad where we must stop and determine whether it is in the best interest of mankind to pursue a technology that has the potential of manufacturing sentient beings.

First, there must be a responsible answer to the question, "Why do we need to duplicate ourselves through cloning when there is a perfectly natural and effective method of population replenishment already in use by a vast majority of the world's inhabitants?" Conception has been extremely successful (since all of us here today are here as a result of that process). And for couples (or individuals) who cannot conceive, adoption has been proven also to be very effective.

Considering this, why do we desire to duplicate ourselves? We should take a lesson from our Creator. In His wisdom, He doesn't seek to duplicate His creation. He causes each person to be conceived with a unique body, soul, and spirit. He knows that it is from our individuality and uniqueness that we are able to work together and prosper and survive. Human duplication is solely for the sake of human vanity and no vanity is ever productive. However, vanity is expensive. Is it prudent or wise fiscal management to spend many millions or perhaps billions of tax dollars on cloning research and the subsequent manufacture of individuals (if a process is developed) when there is already a successful process in use--CONCEPTION?

In pondering this subject from another lay-person vantage point, I see a distinct difference between the material composition of the sperm, ovum, embryo, and mature cell. I see a distinct difference between conception of a new life and the manufacturing of sentient beings. Conception has been understood to involve a sperm and an ovum or a male of the species and a female of the species. The human experience starts with the union of seed material from a man and a woman since sperm can only be produce from the male and ovum from the female. The biological chemical reaction that causes the generation of a new and unique DNA pattern from the act of conception must, by sheer material foundation, be different from the results produced from the joining of two cells in the cloning process. Are cloned individuals covered by the laws of this country? Do the individuals manufactured from cloning and genetic engineering have an equality of rights as those conceived? If the answer to these questions are not unanimous among the conceived population, will the cloned individuals be covered by the various anti-discrimination laws?

Taking this further, as the African-American community becomes better informed about cloning technology, a growing concern has surfaced regarding the desirability of cloning material maintaining African-American DNA trait codes. Since our country has not healed itself of bigotry and racism, is it not unreasonable to conclude that social biases within the scientific community, dominated by whites, will influence research to duplicate individuals representing itself. By selective genetic engineering during the cloning process, afro-influenced traits would be replaced with the more desirable anglo-saxon traits. Or, will there be a desire to manufacture cloned individuals for domestic, athletic, and entertainment tasks maintaining the afro-influenced traits, enabling easy identification of the service-class cloned or manufactured individuals?

Has our lust for the authority to control life and death for our unborn children, our sick, and our seniors expanded to seeking authority over our genetic makeup also. What is our responsibility to individuals given life in the cloning process? After generation for experimental purposes and service in their part of the research project, can we consider embryos, conceived or cloned, as guinea pigs whose lives can easily be considered trash and tossed in a research lab's defective can for waste disposal. Does the shortness of their lives take away their humanity?

It is my desire that my appearance before this committee will encourage active debate on the matter of human cloning and its potential to unnecessarily bring suffering to individuals whose humanity will be in question.

I will conclude by saying that other than for the vanity of the conceived human species, cloning has no use in a society which cherishes the natural reproductive process of conception.

BlackGenocide.org | Human Cloning and its affect in the African-American Community

 

[jillio]

Cloning has several medical uses other than reproduction.

 

[Jiro]

dreama - don't bother posting someone's opinions. tell us YOUR opinion. Cloning is not about whether it's a scientific fact or not. it's an issue of ethic and morality. So tell us in your own words, not someone else.

 

[PowerON]

Who seen movie called "The Island"

You get idea...

 

[Oceanbreeze]

I have not learned enough about this issue to formulate a fair opinion.

I feel the same way.

I did a science fair project in the 7th grade where I cloned an orchid. It was a lot of fun and I learned a heck of a lot. However, there's a huge difference between botany and biology. I honestly have too many ethical and practical questions to be able to effectively give an opinion on human or animal cloning.