Only Polk's Bailiffs Armed

Who should have guns in the courthouse to protect themselves?

  • Balliffs only (like the article said)

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Balliffs and Security officers

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Balliffs, Security officers, and lawyers

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • All of them plus the judges

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Other (please specify)

    Votes: 3 33.3%

  • Total voters
    9
It wasn't the gun...
It is because they took the handcuff off of him...
trying to be political correct.
They didn't think about the safety of others.
And why a female deputy doing with a man that is taller and bigger than her.
Affirmative Action needs to go, cause they went too far. :pissed:
 
The handcuffs don't matter. It's the fact that he was a violent felon who figured that the deputy wasn't prepared to defend herself, and took advantage of it. I don't know if the courthouse normally just assigns one deputy per felon or not, but in this case, he WAS VIOLENT and ACTED.

I bet he would have overwhelmed a male cop. I bet he could have taken out TWO male cops.
 
Kobe was accused of violently raping a woman...

and same thing with this man....

We can't tell who are violent or not.

Shit happened.
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
Kobe was accused of violently raping a woman...

and same thing with this man....

We can't tell who are violent or not.

Shit happened.

Erm, yeah.
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
Kobe was accused of violently raping a woman...

and same thing with this man....

We can't tell who are violent or not.

Shit happened.
Yeah!!! Kobe had one of them high priced lawyer to get him off the hook like O.J Simpsons lawyers did. This man had a public defender and 80% of public defenders dont get you off the hook easy.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Yeah!!! Kobe had one of them high priced lawyer to get him off the hook like O.J Simpsons lawyers did. This man had a public defender and 80% of public defenders dont get you off the hook easy.

There was not enough evidence to convict Kobe.

As for this other clown, he was going down anyway, and he knew it. That's why he's accused of doing what he's accused of doing. He didn't want to be convicted of the rape, so he saw an opportunity to get outta Dodge, and he took it. Just so happens, he killed a bunch of people in the process. Now, instead of being convicted of rape and going to prison for a few years, he's facing a few capitol murder charges and will probably be on the wrong end of a lethal injection if he's convicted.

So, he royally screwed himself over. His bad luck.

Oh well.
 
Oh Bull!! Kobe did do it just like O.J Simpson killed nicole. This country treats the wealthy differant than the poor and average middle class, Just like the cops can bust you for buying an NFL Superbowl ticket from an undercover cop meanwhile the billionare calls up the NFL office and gets himself a seat. And the wealthy gets PPV,HBO And Showtime to watch boxing.And For the middle class If you steal cable the pigs will bust you.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Oh Bull!! Kobe did do it just like O.J Simpson killed nicole. This country treats the wealthy differant than the poor and average middle class, Just like the cops can bust you for buying an NFL Superbowl ticket from an undercover cop meanwhile the billionare calls up the NFL office and gets himself a seat. And the wealthy gets PPV,HBO And Showtime to watch boxing.And For the middle class If you steal cable the pigs will bust you.

:zzz: We're NOT discussing Kobe, Steve. We're talking about this idiot who killed those four people in Atlanta.

Get on the same page, wouldja?

Thank you. :)
 
I believe that if there is unhandcuffed, no leg shackles on the defendant then nobody should be carrying a gun in the court room because anything can happen, because they must focus on safely for everyone in the courtroom. When I watch courtTv I don't see them wearing their orange suit, they wear civilian clothes. If they still think no judge or anyone would feel safe in the courtroom without a gun then there should be a gun hidden by the judge's bench, away from the defendant. :thumb:
 
^Angel^ said:
Ok, let me put it this way Ravensteve,

If a cop arrest me and charge me with umm.. lets say murder ok? and even tho I didn't murder anyone but the witness said I was the " one " that she saw, etc...I end up in court, so let's say they put the chain on my legs, and handcuff on my arms, how is this suppose to make me feel? when I did not murder anyone? It almost like my rights are taking away here...Every criminals has rights unless they prove that this criminal is dangerous, then yeah maybe they should....but everyone is innocent until prove guilty! that's just how the law works....

I dunno if I'm making any sense but at least I'm trying to show you another example here ;)

I'm really sorry for going off the topic here!...

Correct, If anyone were on trail and charge with a serious commit crime then we should be able to wear clothes to send the right message to the jury that you're a regular citizen and you're innocent. Like Michael Jackon look what he was wearing, and OJ Simpson they didn't have leg shackles or handcuffs on them while on trail. ;)
 
You know why O.J ,Kobe and M.J Dont have leg shackles or handcuffs on them? Just look at the differance between their bank accounts and ours.
 
Blake.. too...

But anyway.. there should not be any gun in the courtroom....
That is stupid.

Why not have a metal detector on criminals before
they enter the court room...

Even use metal detector on judge and everyone....

Man, they treated Defendants better than the people at the airport.
We have to take our shoes, coats, and hats off... and sometimes
they pat us down before we get on the airplane.
 
Miss p its very simple,As long these voters keep on putting liberal democrats in office the more the ACLU stays in power. If they just vote em out the ACLU will die and liberalism will die as well and then were have the real america back just as it was back in 1776. Cause back in the 18 & 19 centuries criminals didnt have no rights,And there was no paroles,No probation and no appeals on death sentences. But when FDR came social security came,The parole board came and there were appeals on death sentences. And when LBJ came judges throw out cases because the police didnt do things properly like the crap you have to get a search warrant.And the have to read the miranda warning to you. As soon these democrats begin taking a hike the sooner justice and freedom can return.
 
There is an easier answer

About ten years ago I worked on a patent for a man in FLorida. The Officer wears a ring which emits a key code. Anyone not wearing the ring cannot fire the gun. The firing pin is blocked. But suppose another person, Judge, lawyer, or person in the room had been armed. The perp certainly would not have been able to kill that many people. Even if the baliff had worn a safety holster it would have helped. I do not agree with using orange suits and cuffs on non-convicted suspects in court, but a lot of jurisdictions do just that. And it makes the most innocent man look guilty as sin.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Miss p its very simple,As long these voters keep on putting liberal democrats in office the more the ACLU stays in power. If they just vote em out the ACLU will die and liberalism will die as well and then were have the real america back just as it was back in 1776. Cause back in the 18 & 19 centuries criminals didnt have no rights,And there was no paroles,No probation and no appeals on death sentences. But when FDR came social security came,The parole board came and there were appeals on death sentences. And when LBJ came judges throw out cases because the police didnt do things properly like the crap you have to get a search warrant.And the have to read the miranda warning to you. As soon these democrats begin taking a hike the sooner justice and freedom can return.

Well you aren't working... and you are living off government and
staying with your parent.... so without the Democrats,
what will you do? Starve to death?
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
Well you aren't working... and you are living off government and
staying with your parent.... so without the Democrats,
what will you do? Starve to death?
Yeah Ill starve to death and be reincarnated and ill live the right way.
 
Codger said:
. I do not agree with using orange suits and cuffs on non-convicted suspects in court, but a lot of jurisdictions do just that. And it makes the most innocent man look guilty as sin.
That sounds like liberalism to me. Thats whats wrong with this country. Maybe someday when liberalism dies youll see real justice return and then you wont have to worry about burgalars breaking into your home, Your cars being stolen and you wont be afraid to go out at night. Plus the wealthy would have to hire their own security to protect their investments.
 
Your birth year was 1961, and that is when Pluto was in Virgo...
And yeah you love to criticize people. And you got Neptune
in Scorpio.... You always thinking about the government.
And you got Uranus in Leo, Unusual leader. Saturn in Capricorn, difficult
finding work. So I guess, there is no hope for you RavenSteven. :shock:
 
Codger said:
About ten years ago I worked on a patent for a man in FLorida. The Officer wears a ring which emits a key code. Anyone not wearing the ring cannot fire the gun. The firing pin is blocked. But suppose another person, Judge, lawyer, or person in the room had been armed. The perp certainly would not have been able to kill that many people. Even if the baliff had worn a safety holster it would have helped. I do not agree with using orange suits and cuffs on non-convicted suspects in court, but a lot of jurisdictions do just that. And it makes the most innocent man look guilty as sin.

I am somewhat familiar with the invention that you mention, and I'm surprised it isn't more popular than it is. The only drawback that I'm aware of is if me an another officer were pinned down, I couldn't use his weapon (lets say he had been hit and I'm running out of ammo....I could still use his clip, however). The ring would prevent me being killed by my own weapon (which happens to a lot of police officers killed in the line of duty), and it would prevent a tragedy such as this courthouse killing.

There is one gun manufacturer that has a safety that prevents the gun from firing if the clip is ejected, even if there is still a round chambered. He claims to only carry this type of gun off duty. His scenario is that if he is fighting for his weapon and believes he would lose it, he can eject it and his gun becomes about as useless as a brick and cannot be used to shoot him or anyone else until the clip is inserted back into the weapon.
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
Your birth year was 1961, and that is when Pluto was in Virgo...
And yeah you love to criticize people. And you got Neptune
in Scorpio.... You always thinking about the government.
And you got Uranus in Leo, Unusual leader. Saturn in Capricorn, difficult
finding work. So I guess, there is no hope for you RavenSteven. :shock:
Hey i dont belive in that astro crap.
 
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