Obama: US Launches Military Action Against Libya

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yes but I don't agree with Steinhauer's post especially on college money part. Most people who enroll in military for college money are usually officers.
Commissioned officers already have at least bachelor's degrees. I suppose they might want money for obtaining further degrees.

Also, the ratio of enlisted to officer is very high, so it seems the majority numbers who join for educational benefits would be enlisted.
 
Nowadays.... joining military for some college money is kinda silly because it's not much. You'll be limited to community or state college. The easiest way to get your tuition 100% paid for in any college you're at is to get signed up... meaning you'll have to serve in military between 3-7 years depending on branch and circumstance.
TCS and I are confused by your statement. Can you perhaps rephrase it or give more details?
 
*shrugs* My ex is getting his B.A. while in the USAF. He's a Staff Sargent. I'm inclined to think not only is he a good addition to the USAF, but he'll take it a lot further. He's committed to eight years so far.

In the end, part of it is just your smarts. The military can help even out some of the socioeconomic disparities.
 
We could. But so long as we have people to the job for whatever reason, why both?
Diversity. ;)

Didn't the Army lower their requirements? Now you can be gayer, dumber and older?

(Just sayin'.)
You tell me. What were the previous requirements, and what are the current requirements?
 
If you are in combat and get injured, you get a ton more. My friend was in Iraq and served in the Marines for, oh, I donno, whatever the requirement was...he now attends a private college + gets a stipend.
A ton more?

I wasn't in combat nor injured, and I attended a private college on the GI Bill. It paid for all my expenses, and I had money left over every month.

Veterans on disability get separate payments for their disabilities, and certain percentages are tax exempt, which gives them more bang for the buck.
 
A ton more?

I wasn't in combat nor injured, and I attended a private college on the GI Bill. It paid for all my expenses, and I had money left over every month.

Veterans on disability get separate payments for their disabilities, and certain percentages are tax exempt, which gives them more bang for the buck.

Case Studies Showing Differences Between the Post-9/11 GI Bill and the Montgomery GI Bill - Active Duty - U. S. Department of Veterans Affairs

All I know is that he served, was in Iraq, injured, and attends a nice private university that's in the Yellow Ribbon program.

Also...no offense, but can I assume you attended college a long time ago?

Anyway, I think we're really OT here.
 
Diversity. ;)


You tell me. What were the previous requirements, and what are the current requirements?


I remember they lowered the test score requirement and raised the age limit.
 
Yes, there are various GI Bill educational benefits programs.


I got my degrees in 1978, 1982, and 2000. What's your point?


Yes, and my friend gets "a lot more" IMHO.

Um...the cost of education is rising...sooo...yeah.
 
Yes, and my friend gets "a lot more" IMHO.
A lot more than what?

Um...the cost of education is rising...sooo...yeah.
Yeah, and we didn't get as many dollars back then either. Of course, that's figured into the equation. So?
 
Do I look like a like a library to you?

Google is your friend. Go and conquer.
Since you brought it up, I figured you could back it up. As an educator you know how to cite sources. :)
 
What??? We tested the weapons that are being used in Libya years ago. The U.S. does not use weapons as tests in war because if they went wrong, then civilians would surely die. Very bad PR.

The military has destroyed stockpiles of bombs, missiles, chemical weapons as part of a reduction in force. Many of those classes of weapons have never been used in any attack.

Yeah and what about the agent orange used in Vietnam War! Our troops got sick from this! I met a vet from the Vietnam War about 4 years ago and he told me he sick from the agent orange and he was told it was harmless!
 
But who cares? These aren't "free" benefits. There's a trade-off. Personally, I have mixed feelings about recruitment tactics in low-income neighborhoods. I HATED ROTC in my old school. I hated the "special" curriculum, the low standards for ROTC teachers...etc cetera...but...that doesn't mean joining the military so you can get a college education is a bad thing. Very very few people join the military while thinking, "F this country, man, I'm just gonna get some college cash! Yeeehaw!" All servicemen (and women) I know that joined the military partially for college aid are very proud to be serving their country.

Plus...if you're wiling to do a tour in Iraq to get some college cash, that says quite a bit about your determination to succeed in life.

imo

I am not saying they are free benefits. I am saying that the armed forces offer incentives to young people who are struggling financially. Most young people who are struggling financially come from single parent households.

The armed forces offer a way out.

Before I realized my hearing impairment disqualified me for service, I wanted to join the Navy (like my older brother did). I had my heart set on becoming a Navy Diver and then enrolling in school to be an Oceanographer. My brother learned that you cannot pick what you want to do in the service, the service chooses what they do with you.

Every branch of the service, in any government, will have those rotten apples who should never be anywhere near a tank, gun or weapon of any sort.

You got bored young men standing around with machine guns at checkpoints that spent way too many hours playing Command and Conquer, Call of Duty, etc. who heard over the wire that the enemy is about to attack, they just don't know when.

Then the locals, who despise an armed presence in their town, decide to go up to the soldiers flailing their arms speaking a language that can't be understood. Having been trained that the enemy have suicide bombers, there is a pending attack being planned .... you have a machine gun, what do you do? Does that crazy looking dude speaking a different language that is flailing their arms have a bomb? Or is he simply telling you to kiss his ass? Do you shoot an innocent civilian or an armed enemy combatant?

How does the Army weed out the bad apples?

There has been a report that a soldier tried to complain about abuse he witnessed his commanding officers do ... but nothing was done about it. His CO threatened his life. Thank God for facebook or none of this stuff would ever see the light of day. Of course, when it is exposed, the Army says all the proper things ... we don't condone it, blah blah blah. When it never sees the light of day, the Army does nothing.

For clarity, I am not knocking on single parents, I am not knocking on the military (if I were, I would be knocking on members of my own family).
 
Yeah and what about the agent orange used in Vietnam War! Our troops got sick from this! I met a vet from the Vietnam War about 4 years ago and he told me he sick from the agent orange and he was told it was harmless!
Yeah our friend died from it few years ago. Sad.
 
Commissioned officers already have at least bachelor's degrees. I suppose they might want money for obtaining further degrees.

Also, the ratio of enlisted to officer is very high, so it seems the majority numbers who join for educational benefits would be enlisted.

TCS and I are confused by your statement. Can you perhaps rephrase it or give more details?

ROTC. or you sign up in exchange of 100% tuition coverage. My friends are in medical schools and everything is paid for by Air Force. One has to serve 7 years and other only 3 years.
 
ROTC. or you sign up in exchange of 100% tuition coverage. My friends are in medical schools and everything is paid for by Air Force. One has to serve 7 years and other only 3 years.

The Navy promised to send my brother to school if ... and only if, he served on a Nuclear Sub for 8 years.

The recruiter told him a far .... far different story.

Bait and Switch .... Uncle Sam does it.
 
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