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Obama 'angry' after reading McChrystal's remarks
Obama 'angry' after reading McChrystal's remarks - CNN.com

President Barack Obama was "angry" after reading Gen. Stanley McChrystal's remarks about colleagues in a Rolling Stone article, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday.

McChrystal -- the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan -- has been recalled to Washington to explain his actions to the president. He is expected to meet with Obama in the Oval Office on Wednesday, Gibbs said. Gibbs refused to speculate about McChrystal's fate, but told reporters "all options are on the table."

The White House will have more to say after Wednesday's meeting, Gibbs said. He noted, however, that McChrystal did not take part in a teleconference Obama had with Afghan President Hamid Karzai and other top officials on Tuesday.

The "magnitude and graveness" of McChrystal's mistake in conducting the interview for the article were "profound," Gibbs said. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said McChrystal had "made a significant mistake and exercised poor judgment."

Several elected officials have strongly criticized McChrystal but deferred to the president on the politically sensitive question of whether the general should keep his current position. A couple of key congressmen, however, have openly called for McChrystal's removal.

McChrystal apologized Tuesday for the Rolling Stone profile, in which he and his staff appear to mock top civilian officials, including the vice president. Two defense officials said the general fired a press aide over the article, set to appear in Friday's edition of Rolling Stone.

"I extend my sincerest apology for this profile. It was a mistake reflecting poor judgment and should never have happened," McChrystal said in a Pentagon statement. "Throughout my career, I have lived by the principles of personal honor and professional integrity. What is reflected in this article falls far short of that standard."

In the profile, writer Michael Hastings writes that McChrystal and his staff had imagined ways of dismissing Vice President Joe Biden with a one-liner as they prepared for a question-and-answer session in Paris, France, in April. The general had grown tired of questions about Biden since earlier dismissing a counterterrorism strategy the vice president had offered.

"'Are you asking about Vice President Biden?' McChrystal says with a laugh. 'Who's that?'"

"'Biden?' suggests a top adviser. 'Did you say: Bite Me?'"

McChrystal does not directly criticize Obama in the article, but Hastings writes that the general and Obama "failed to connect" from the outset. Sources familiar with the meeting said McChrystal thought Obama looked "uncomfortable and intimidated" by the room full of top military officials, according to the article.

Later, McChrystal's first one-on-one meeting with Obama "was a 10-minute photo op," Hastings writes, quoting an adviser to McChrystal. "Obama clearly didn't know anything about him, who he was. Here's the guy who's going to run his f---ing war, but he didn't seem very engaged. The Boss (McChrystal) was disappointed."

The article goes on to paint McChrystal as a man who "has managed to piss off almost everyone with a stake in the conflict," including U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry, special representative to Afghanistan Richard Holbrooke and national security adviser Jim Jones. Obama is not named as one of McChrystal's "team of rivals."

Of Eikenberry, who railed against McChrystal's strategy in Afghanistan in a cable leaked to The New York Times in January, the general is quoted as saying, "'Here's one that covers his flank for the history books. Now if we fail, they can say, "I told you so.'"

Hastings writes in the profile that McChrystal has a "special skepticism" for Holbrooke, the official in charge of reintegrating Taliban members into Afghan society and the administration's point man for Afghanistan and Pakistan.

"At one point on his trip to Paris, McChrystal checks his BlackBerry, according to the article. 'Oh, not another e-mail from Holbrooke,' he groans. 'I don't even want to open it.' He clicks on the message and reads the salutation out loud, then stuffs the BlackBerry back in his pocket, not bothering to conceal his annoyance.

"'Make sure you don't get any of that on your leg,' an aide jokes, referring to the e-mail."

Both Democrats and Republicans have been strongly critical of McChrystal in the wake of the story. House Appropriations Committee chairman David Obey, D-Wisconsin, called McChrystal the latest in a "long list of reckless, renegade generals who haven't seemed to understand that their role is to implement policy, not design it."

McChrystal is "contemptuous" of civilian authority and has demonstrated "a bull-headed refusal to take other people's judgments into consideration."

Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, urged a cooling off period before a final decision is rendered on the general. My "impression is that all of us would be best served by just backing off and staying cool and calm and not sort of succumbing to the normal Washington twitter about this for the next 24 hours."

Sens. John McCain of Arizona, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Jim Webb of Virginia -- all key senators on defense and foreign policy issues -- were each strongly critical of McChrystal's remarks, but noted that the general's future is a decision for Obama to make.

Karzai also weighed in, urging Obama to keep McChrystal as the U.S. commander in Afghanistan. The government in Kabul believes McChrystal is a man of strong integrity who has a strong understanding of the Afghan people and their culture, Karzai spokesman Waheed Omar said.

A U.S. military official said Tuesday that McChrystal has spoken to Biden, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Adm. Mike Mullen and other officials referenced in the story, including Holbrooke, Eikenberry and Jones.

An official at the U.S. Embassy in Kabul said Eikenberry and McChrystal "are both fully committed" to Obama's Afghan strategy and are working together to implement the plan. "We have seen the article and General McChrystal has already spoken to it," according to a statement from an embassy official, making reference to McChrystal's apology.

"I have enormous respect and admiration for President Obama and his national security team, and for the civilian leaders and troops fighting this war and I remain committed to ensuring its successful outcome," McChrystal said in the closing to his apology.

Rolling Stone executive editor Eric Bates, however, struck a less optimistic tone during an interview with CNN on Tuesday.

The comments made by McChrystal and other top military aides during the interview were "not off-the-cuff remarks," he said. They "knew what they were doing when they granted the access." The story shows "a deep division" and "war within the administration" over strategy in Afghanistan, he contended.

McChrystal and his staff "became aware" that the Rolling Stone article would be controversial before it was published, Hastings told CNN Tuesday. He said he "got word from (McChrystal's) staff ... that there was some concern" about possible fallout from the story.

Obama tapped McChrystal to head the U.S. military effort in Afghanistan in the spring of 2009 shortly after dismissing Gen. David McKiernan.
 
Obama... umad? :aw:
 
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all kidding aside... I read about General Stanley McChrystal last nite and I find it rather disconcerting that a high-ranking military general acted like this. It's disrespectful and it shows a crack in chain of command.
 
Will McChrystal Be Fired? White House Says "All Options Are on the Table"
Will McChrystal Be Fired? White House Says "All Options Are on the Table" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Asked by CBS News Chief White House Correspondent Chip Reid whether the White House is considering firing Gen. Stanley McChrystal at the White House briefing today, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs replied that "all options are on the table."


Gibbs said that President Obama has not made any decisions on whether to remove McChrystal, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, in the wake of an incendiary Rolling Stone article in which McChrystal and his aides are quoted criticizing Mr. Obama and many other members of the administration.


He indicated the White House will have more to say following a face-to-face meeting between the president and McChrystal tomorrow in Washington.

Still, Gibbs made clear that the White House was extremely unhappy with McChrystal, the engineer of the American war strategy in Afghanistan. Gibbs said Mr. Obama was "angry" about the comments in the article and that McChrystal made an "enormous mistake in judgment." He also -- pointedly -- declined to say McChrystal's job is safe.


In the article, McChrystal complains that at an early meeting the president was unprepared; Gibbs quipped at the briefing that the general will have the president's "undivided attention" at the meeting tomorrow.


The press secretary added that "the magnitude and greatness of the mistake here are profound" and amounted to "distractions" to the war effort.

At the meeting tomorrow, Gibbs said, McChrystal will be asked to tell the president and top officials, many of whom came under criticism from the general and his aides in the story, "what in the world he was thinking."

Gibbs told reporters that Mr. Obama -- who as the commander-in-chief could plausibly cite the general for insubordination -- has not yet spoken to McChrystal about the article. A senior military official in Afghanistan told The Associated Press McChrystal has been no indication as to whether he will keep his job.


Top House Democrat David Obey has called for the "dangerous" McChrystal to be removed, while Senators John McCain (R-Ariz.), Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), and Lindsey Graham have called McChrystal's comments "inappropriate" and said the president should make a decision about his future.

McChrystal has apologized for the story, in which he expresses concerns about President Obama, appears to mock Vice President Joe Biden and is described by an aide as seeing Richard C. Holbrooke, Obama's senior envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan, as a "wounded animal." In the story, McChrystal's aides are quoted calling national security adviser James L. Jones a "clown" who remains "stuck in 1985" and mocking other officials.
 
McChrystal showed contempt for Obama who is the commander in chief therefore he should be removed.

I'd fire him on the spot.
 
McChrystal showed contempt for Obama who is the commander in chief therefore he should be removed.

I'd fire him on the spot.

demote him and reassign him.
 
"'Are you asking about Vice President Biden?' McChrystal says with a laugh. 'Who's that?'"

"'Biden?' suggests a top adviser. 'Did you say: Bite Me?'"

McChrystal does not directly criticize Obama in the article, but Hastings writes that the general and Obama "failed to connect" from the outset. Sources familiar with the meeting said McChrystal thought Obama looked "uncomfortable and intimidated" by the room full of top military officials, according to the article.

Well ... okaaaaaayyyy .... we have a vain president.
 
Well ... okaaaaaayyyy .... we have a vain president.

what would you do as the President if this General made fun of your Vice President?

btw - nobody in this thread said Gen. Stanley McChrystal made fun of Obama.
 
what would you do as the President if this General made fun of your Vice President?

I would probably ask if the comment was made publicly or in private. If the General is doing his job and made the comment publicly, I would demand he make a public apology. If a private comment was made, I would demand a private apology.

If the General fails to achieve their objectives, then, and only then, would I consider replacing the General.

We have free speech for the sole reason people were beheaded for speaking out against the King.

edit: if the comment was made in his official capacity, that is the only time I would demand the apology. I can think of a lot worse comments about Biden though.
 
I would probably ask if the comment was made publicly or in private. If the General is doing his job and made the comment publicly, I would demand he make a public apology. If a private comment was made, I would demand a private apology.
It was from an interview with Rolling Stone journalist.

If the General fails to achieve their objectives, then, and only then, would I consider replacing the General.
agreed.

We have free speech for the sole reason people were beheaded for speaking out against the King.
Free Speech does not exist in military chain of command. It's for American citizens. And no we do not behead people. We either demote them or remove them from the job. Let's not try to input an Arabic element in here.
 
edit: if the comment was made in his official capacity, that is the only time I would demand the apology. I can think of a lot worse comments about Biden though.

:lol:

but the point still remains - what would you do if General said such thing to your Vice President? Mind you - I said Vice President.... not Biden because you obviously wouldn't pick him as your VP :lol:
 
It was from an interview with Rolling Stone journalist.


agreed.


Free Speech does not exist in military chain of command. It's for American citizens. And no we do not behead people. We either demote them or remove them from the job. Let's not try to input an Arabic element in here.

If the rule applies to one soldier, doesn't it apply to all soldiers?

Is Obama going to demote all of them?
 
If the rule applies to one soldier, doesn't it apply to all soldiers?
yes. every man and women in uniform. I've never ever heard of a high-ranking General acting like this (except General MacArthur???). I'm wondering about veteran ADers' input about this incident.

Is Obama going to demote all of them?
Well technically Obama can but there is chain of command procedure to deal with insubordination. The soldier (I assume his rank is Private) reports to Squad Leader who reports to Lieutenant who reports to..... so on and so on.

This General reports to Obama. If he's making fun of someone above his chain of command... well that's not good. Griping goes up, not down.

Free Speech? no such thing. Article II, Section 2.
 
unconfirmed information - General McChrystal has submitted his letter of resignation. I certainly hope Obama and McChrystal can work it out because from what I see - McChrystal is the right man for Afghanistan but it is unfortunate that he misbehaved. His background shows that he is clearly a strong intelligent commander.

TIME magazine’s Joe Klein writes about the McChrystal he’s known, calling him an “extraordinary man” with a thorough set of skills necessary for the mission in Afghanistan.

"But there is another side to McChrystal: he is so focused on his real job that he hasn't spent sufficient time learning how to play the public relations game. He speaks his mind; in private conversations, I've found, he is incapable of fudging the truth. This leads to a certain myopia, an innocence regarding the not-so-brave new world of the media."

Klein goes on to say that while McChrystal may have to go, firing the “irreplaceable” man will be a great “setback” and “tragedy.”

Afghan President Harmid Karzai doesn’t seem too concerned by McChrystal’s remarks and clearly wants him on the ground. The president’s spokesman, Waheed Omer, told Reuters:

“The President strongly supports General McChrystal and his strategy in Afghanistan and believes he is the best commander the United States has sent to Afghanistan over the last nine years."
 
yes. every man and women in uniform. I've never ever heard of a high-ranking General acting like this (except General MacArthur???). I'm wondering about veteran ADers' input about this incident.


Well technically Obama can but there is chain of command procedure to deal with insubordination. The soldier (I assume his rank is Private) reports to Squad Leader who reports to Lieutenant who reports to..... so on and so on.

This General reports to Obama. If he's making fun of someone above his chain of command... well that's not good. Griping goes up, not down.

Free Speech? no such thing. Article II, Section 2.


???

So Mcchrystal was griping up?
 
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