Not again..my landlord...

DoofusMama said:
yes you can share..

but its about respectful.. its different between countries and usa..

but you made this sound like All landlords or whoever own apartments/housings/duplex/cabin/doghouse/cardboard box...

must respect tentants.. yes.. but respect landlords too..

like i said.. depends on the lease :deal: you signed.. even fine letters, and words.. have to go along with it cuz you agreed to sign

Like what I said before that tenants and landlords respect each other.

Tenants have to stick with Landlord's rule because they sign agreement contract before rent an apartment/house.

Landlord have to respect tenant's privacy because they pay the rent to them.

For emergency is an understandable.

If the people who want to rent that apartment then they have to stick Landlord's rule... If they don't like their rules then look for other apartment like what I said before.
 
Reba said:
From the way I understand the regulations:

1. for non-emergency entry, you should get 24-hour notice, AND they should only be during normal working hours

2. for emergency entry (fire, flood, smelling gas, hearing screams, etc.), they can enter any time, thru any way possible; that includes back doors and windows

3. maintenance staff can report to the landlard any unsanitary, unsafe, or illegal conditions that they observe in an apartment, that could impact the material condition of the property

Well, I personally dont agree that the maintenance report to the landlord about unsanitary...because it is my home...I pay the rent...my house is not PERFECT clean...like clean freak...it is little messy...they expects perfect perfect sharp clean...give me a break!

I agree about enter at back door only for an emergency...but not for visiting like normal working hours..

because what if I was in the shower? What if I was at the kitchen...If I was cooking something...or cutting something...and if they were behind me...and I cant hear at all...when I turn around I could jump and stab someone accident...does this make sense? It is dangerous for them to enter at the back door during normal working hours...
 
coloravalanche said:
I see your point there...but you did not get my point...

Yes, I received their 24 hours noticed..but I was busy errands in my house...I locked my front storm door..for security...I did not see the light flash - door bell...I did not see it...thats why they missed it last week...they admitted that they were going to go inside my back door...it could scare me to death if they went in at the back door...

There's nothing have to do with smelly or odor...Few weeks ago, the staff came and installed the strobes...they complained to landlord about my place being little messy..they expect it to be perfect clean...it is how they are...

I hope Im making this clear to you all...:)

Probably They fusterate to get ahold of you on the front door... So they could have chance use backyard patio door.. trying to wave you.. You might spotted them..
If open door.. not supposed to.. different story!

I assume you're living first floor an apartment.. Easy for other people can wave you look out the patio door..

I used to be living first floor apartment.. They knew I can't hear knock on the door... and decide use patio door.. They'll wave window.. I'll spotted them.. I don't complain.. I used w/it..
 
What is My Right of Entry to My Leased Rental Property?
Right of entry is a confusing issue for many landlords. The natural impulse of landlords is to protect their property; if they suspect damage is being done, they quite naturally want to enter their own property to investigate. However, most states require you to notify your tenants in advance before you can enter a rented dwelling, unless there is an emergency. Most states require you to give a minimum of 24 hours' notice, while some states allow a shorter period of advance notice -- as little as two hours, in some cases. Bear in mind that your idea of what constitutes reasonable notice might be different from your state's legal definition; be sure to research your state's requirements before you take any action.

You must give notice almost any time you wish to enter the rented dwelling -- even to perform repairs. You will also need to give your tenant notice before a repair specialist can be granted access to the property, unless there is a specific emergency.

In addition to your notice before entry, you must enter the property during reasonable hours. Many states specify that entry can only be made during normal business hours, unless there is an emergency. This means that you would only be able to access the property between the hours of 9 a.m. and 5 p.m., unless the tenant grants you permission.

Some states only specify that entry should be made during "reasonable times." Most people take this to mean that you may not enter your property in the middle of the night, except in the case of an emergency.

In some instances, your tenant may refuse you access to the property, even when the required amount of advance notice is given. If this happens to you, stay calm, and do not try to force your way into the unit. Instead, try to make a peaceful attempt to gain entry, such as making another entry request -- with sufficient advance notice, of course. If this fails, contact your local law enforcement to assist you in entering your rental property safely and legally.

By following your rights as a landlord and not overstepping your legal right of entry, you can protect yourself against any claims that you have entered a dwelling illegally.

As mentioned above, an emergency almost always supersedes the usual notification process. An emergency is usually defined as a gas or water leak, the smell or indication of smoke, a fire, or other issue that puts your tenant or your property in immediate danger. Some landlords have abused this emergency provision by claiming to smell gas in order to facilitate entry into a rental unit, so you will need to thoroughly document your reasons for entry. Whenever possible, have a witness that can attest to the emergency.

If your tenant has abandoned the property, you will not need to worry about your right of entry. But you should be sure the tenant has actually vacated the dwelling before you enter. If your tenant is simply on vacation, this does not give you the right to enter unlawfully.

While some landlords feel that the right of entry law is unfair, especially since they own the property, these laws exist to protect the interests of tenants. Remember, as a landlord, you are required to guarantee your tenant's quiet enjoyment of his or her dwelling. Even if your motives are irreproachable, entering your tenant's dwelling unannounced clearly violates the covenant of quiet enjoyment.

Your rental agreement should also spell out your policy on your right of entry. State how much notice you will give your tenant and what emergencies will make this notice period void. Including this in your agreement will lessen the chance of a misunderstanding and inform the tenant not only of their rights, but of your rights as the legal owner of the property.
http://www.allbusiness.com/business...ants rights&OVKEY=tenant right&OVMTC=standard
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Reba, thank you for share your post.

Your description about tenant and landlord rights are almost same here in Germany.

Mookie,

Yes, I aware that every landlords/leasing contracts set different rules for tenants because it's the same here in Germany as well. Some of them set odd rules like that...

Example:

No Pet Allowed
No wash clothes hang outside on Sunday and Public holidays
No mowing from 8.00 pm
No dog barking ...
No children play from 1 pm to 3 pm because the tenants want quiet
and go on....................

We all make sure first before sign agreement contract with Landlord. I can look for other better one if I disagree with Landlord's rules. This is a simple.

:jaw: WOW!!! yeah its odd rules..

But I wonder..

Why.. no wash clothes hang outside on sunday and public holidays? (stratch head)..
and
No children play from 1pm to 3pm.. aww.... but I kind of agreed to that, it encourage parents to get kids "quiet time" or "nap" .. but its odd though..

No Dog barking.. aww.. dogs do bark for terriorty or intruders or want get in the house..

but dog barking rules here, cant have dog barking outside (nonstop) for 7-14 minutes, can call animal control but animal control arrive and see/hear dog barking still, will give warning ticket or ticket.. if animal control arrive and hear dog not barking or dog not there.. wont give anything but let owner know that someone call complaint..
inside.. no rules.. but if concern, can call animal control or police to check on.. why dog barking nonstop.. something is wrong..

Oh.. and try not let dog barking before 7am and after 9pm if outside.. same with people, try to keep noise ordiance down after 10pm...

its really varity rules..
 
OK. I do not own apartment..It is rent under HUD...

You misunderstood my thread...I said the staff came to my house..they installed the strobes...they complained to the landlord about my place...it is not their job to do that...they are maintance (sp?)
I am not misunderstood. Yet, you are totally wrong for refusing to let the apartment maintenance to enter into your apartment unit. They are right to inform their boss (your landlord) that your unit is locked. They can not enter from the back door since they do not want to be a part of liability for leaving the muddy footprints on your floor.

Have you been to my house? There are NO odors in my house! :)
That's right that I have not viewed your home but did you read your leasing contract?

I never seen or heard the landlord or staff goes around enter in back yard at the back door...that is forbidden...
Naturally, they do have right to enter from anywhere since your landlord owns/manages the apartment properties.

What if they came inside my house at the back door...and I m in the laundry or kitchen...it could scare me to death! I think it is dangerous for them going at the back door...What if I was taking shower? and get out naked? How would you feel about this?
I know that sucks. However,they probably have knocked your door and waited for long time for you to answer. They assumed that you may be out. I am sure that they are aware of your deafness. They have to install/repair in your apartment unit since you already signed the leasing contract that means you have right to let them come in with/without annoucement.
 
GalaxyAngel said:
Probably They fusterate to get ahold of you on the front door... So they could have chance use backyard patio door.. trying to wave you.. You might spotted them..
If open door.. not supposed to.. different story!

I assume you're living first floor an apartment.. Easy for other people can wave you look out the patio door..

I used to be living first floor apartment.. They knew I can't hear knock on the door... and decide use patio door.. They'll wave window.. I'll spotted them.. I don't complain.. I used w/it..

Yeah, I have no problem with that...that is understandable..but I dont live in apartment..I live in duplex...I have front porch and back porch..I have small window in my kitchen...there is no way they could wave at me at the back yard..because my small window in the kitchen has blind cover it for my security...
 
*yikes* Liebling's prevouis an apartment rules.. that damn uglier rules! Ever I seen!
 
I am not misunderstood. Yet, you are totally wrong for refusing to let the apartment maintenance to enter into your apartment unit. They are right to inform their boss (your landlord) that your unit is locked. They can not enter from the back door since they do not want to be a part of liability for leaving the muddy footprints on your floor.

Yes, you misunderstood me again...there are two separate situations:

1). Few weeks ago, the maintenances came inside my house...they installed the strobes...my house was little messy...they complained to the landlord...it is none of their business...

2). They came by last week for bug spray...but I was busy in my house...did not see the door bell - light flash...so I got their letter yesterday that they admitted they were going to inside my house at the back door patio but there was mud at the yard...

Naturally, they do have right to enter from anywhere since your landlord own/manage the apartment properties.

You maybe right or I maybe right...I will findout and let you all know if it is forbidden here in my state...;)
 
If you live in a apt~ maintance will come change filters and etc. ALL APTS! They let people know what day and time they are coming so they can be prepair... It's there job to do things like that.... But if your living in a house (rent) they come whenever they feel like it, it's totally wrong for them to do that since your renting the place out from the person. I would suggest you to either let this person know that you "feel uncomforable" for this person to harass you or whatever you want to call it.... Tell him that if he doesn't "leave" you alone that you will talk to a lawyer about it~ Maybe it will have some sense in his head.. I've rented a house and I had no problem and had a great landlord. He only came to either get the rent or have someone repair things... But We normally (sp) fix the things in the house if it's simple and the landlord will pay us back... Very kind person.
Or I suggest you to find another place to rent out or get a apartments. There are a bunch of decent apt.... (you can have the pool) **hehe**

I hope things turn out good for you and keep us with the updated news...

Have a good day!

God Bless You!
 
coloravalanche said:
Well, I personally dont agree that the maintenance report to the landlord about unsanitary...because it is my home...I pay the rent...my house is not PERFECT clean...like clean freak...it is little messy...they expects perfect perfect sharp clean...give me a break!
I will give you some examples of possible reasons. I'm NOT saying these apply to you. These are just examples:

* lots of dirty dishes and food debris can attrack rats and roaches, which could spread to other apartments

* mold can spread to other apartments

* evidence that more people are living in the apartment then allowed by the lease

* old newspapers and other flammable trash is piled up near the stove--fire hazard

* doorways and halls are full of stuff, so emergency exits are blocked

* garbage, dirty diapers, pet waste, etc., smells can spread to other apartments


I agree about enter at back door only for an emergency...but not for visiting like normal working hours..

because what if I was in the shower? What if I was at the kitchen...If I was cooking something...or cutting something...and if they were behind me...and I cant hear at all...when I turn around I could jump and stab someone accident...does this make sense? It is dangerous for them to enter at the back door during normal working hours...
If they gave you 24 hours notice, or gave you appointment time for repairs, then you would be expecting them, and not take a shower at that time. If you don't know the exact time they will show up, then leave a note on the door telling them to come back in 20 minutes or whatever time you need.

Make sure your door flasher works, or have a friend with you at the time you are expecting a repair person.

Since you were sick at the time, could you have written to your landlord to postpone the appointment?
 
coloravalanche said:
Yes, you misunderstood me again...there are two separate situations:

1). Few weeks ago, the maintenances came inside my house...they installed the strobes...my house was little messy...they complained to the landlord...it is none of their business...

2). They came by last week for bug spray...but I was busy in my house...did not see the door bell - light flash...so I got their letter yesterday that they admitted they were going to inside my house at the back door patio but there was mud at the yard...



You maybe right or I maybe right...I will findout and let you all know if it is forbidden here in my state...;)


If they complained about your house being a mess~ They might be reffering (sp)? that the apt is in horriable messy or damage... It's their job to let the manger know to make sure there isn't no damage in the apt~ Because if there is damage most likely you will get kicked out or have to pay a huge fee... My best friend who used to live in a apt... She damaged everything and she got kicked out since she didn't pay the rent~Apparently the manger did a walk through since sometimes you can get the some money back but she didn't~ She got $3,000 fine for the damage... I know it's your place and you pay the rent. But you need to keep it in good shape. Most of the time people don't pay the fee and thats when the company goes down the hill since they need the apt ready for the next person... Need the apt to be fixed and cleaned. If they don't pay the fine they will end up in court for it. The bug man always comes in my house BECAUSE I asked them to spray the house since it got ants~ summer time. If you call the person and said you wanted them to do something for you then they will show up~ Did you know that Mangers of the apt are allow to come in your apartment ANYTIME?? You can't refuse them not to come in because if you do then they will either throw you out or whatever floats their boat~

I'm just making a statment.... Not trying to be rude and I promise you that! :)
 
Yes, you misunderstood me again...there are two separate situations:

1). Few weeks ago, the maintenances came inside my house...they installed the strobes...my house was little messy...they complained to the landlord...it is none of their business...
No, I am misunderstood. I am always right since I have a lot of expereinces with different apartments for almost 20 years. Read Reba's post: Maintenance staff can report to the landlard any unsanitary, unsafe, or illegal conditions that they observe in an apartment, that could impact the material condition of the property

2). They came by last week for bug spray...but I was busy in my house...did not see the door bell - light flash...so I got their letter yesterday that they admitted they were going to inside my house at the back door patio but there was mud at the yard...
That's exactly why they do not want to make their own muddy footprints on your floor.

You maybe right or I maybe right...I will findout and let you all know if it is forbidden here in my state...;
I am right. You will find out when you read a copy of leasing contract and state laws....
 
Reba said:
I will give you some examples of possible reasons. I'm NOT saying these apply to you. These are just examples:

* lots of dirty dishes and food debris can attrack rats and roaches, which could spread to other apartments

* mold can spread to other apartments

* evidence that more people are living in the apartment then allowed by the lease

* old newspapers and other flammable trash is piled up near the stove--fire hazard

* doorways and halls are full of stuff, so emergency exits are blocked

* garbage, dirty diapers, pet waste, etc., smells can spread to other apartments



If they gave you 24 hours notice, or gave you appointment time for repairs, then you would be expecting them, and not take a shower at that time. If you don't know the exact time they will show up, then leave a note on the door telling them to come back in 20 minutes or whatever time you need.

Make sure your door flasher works, or have a friend with you at the time you are expecting a repair person.

Since you were sick at the time, could you have written to your landlord to postpone the appointment?

Well said!!

Yep, that what we always do.. I do get complain by staff or landlord about messy.. (ofc cat liters and kids stuff..) that time i was overwhelmed being newly single mom of 4.. I kindly explained to landlord, he understood and offered me that one of staff can help me go through the mess.. it was really nice.. one of staff (well known person not friend).. always happy to help single moms who are overwhelmed.. got my home tidy and clean up and Understand why things need to be tidy little bit neat.. and safe too..
 
Reba said:
I will give you some examples of possible reasons. I'm NOT saying these apply to you. These are just examples:

* lots of dirty dishes and food debris can attrack rats and roaches, which could spread to other apartments

* mold can spread to other apartments

* evidence that more people are living in the apartment then allowed by the lease

* old newspapers and other flammable trash is piled up near the stove--fire hazard

* doorways and halls are full of stuff, so emergency exits are blocked

* garbage, dirty diapers, pet waste, etc., smells can spread to other apartments



If they gave you 24 hours notice, or gave you appointment time for repairs, then you would be expecting them, and not take a shower at that time. If you don't know the exact time they will show up, then leave a note on the door telling them to come back in 20 minutes or whatever time you need.

Make sure your door flasher works, or have a friend with you at the time you are expecting a repair person.

Since you were sick at the time, could you have written to your landlord to postpone the appointment?

I did informed my landlord to postpone the appointment but she refused...she is difficult person to deal with...

Thank you for giving me points...I admit my kitchen was not clean during at that time they were installed the strobes...I was real sick at that time..they should know better..nothing has to be perfect...
 
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