Newly elected sheriff fired deputies.Now deputies are suing.

ravensteve1961 said:
Well explain what mike wallace story on 60 minutes was about and later the police arrested him its all about getting even because he made them look bad right?Mike wallace doesnt just interview you for no reason. Theres a reason why he embarass you. Because the little guy isnt getting a fair shake in this world. Thats why when mike wallace comes to you,You know its gonna be a bad day for you.
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I have no idea what you are talking about. Which Mike Wallace story was it that the police were corrupted?
 
Still doing a search at CBS for the story your referring to...It wasn't this one, was it ;)

Cop Causes Crash

TAMPA, Fla. - The motorist blamed for causing a four-car wreck on an interstate entrance ramp was no mere run-of-the-mill driver: He was the police chief.

“I feel terrible,” said Chief Stephen Hogue. “It was completely my fault.”

Hogue was on his way to work Wednesday and looked over his shoulder while trying to merge onto an interstate in his city-issued, 1999 Ford Crown Victoria. While he was looking, the traffic ahead of him stopped.

Hogue rear-ended a 2003 Volkswagen, which rolled into a 2000 Acura, which struck a 2003 Ford, police said.

“I'm just grateful no one was hurt,” said Hogue.

Officer Paul Hoffman, a 20-year veteran, gave Hogue a $120 traffic citation for following too closely. “We just want to do what we're supposed to do,” Hoffman said with discomfort.

Hogue's car sustained about $4,000 worth of damage to the front end. Besides the fine, he faces four points on his driver's license unless he attends traffic school.
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Nope...couldn't have been that one since all the police in Florida or corrupted. Where in the hell does a corrupt officer have the guts to write the chief of police a ticket? How can that be since cops don't write tickets for other cops...

Still searching.....
 
In reference to the first article, its hard to judge without being there. First, he was double parked....Guess the law doesn't apply to him, being a celebrity and all. Secondly, if the police tell you to move your vehicle, why not just move it. If he had time to alledgedly lunge at an officer, there must have been time for a discussion of some sort, as well as some sort of confrontation.

I am witness to many accounts in our downtown area where parking is at a premium where people double park just to run in. When you tell them to move their car, they get arrogant with the 'I was just getting a cup of coffee...and why are you harassing me...shouldn't you be out fighting crime?' Its then generally followed with some obscenities and the famous 'I pay your salary' line. Mike Wallace at his age is probably not capable of saying anything to a police officer, right? He probably just came out and was accosted by these officers for no reason...right?

I'd also like to point out that these 'officers' were from the Taxi and Limousine Commission.

I don't buy it for a minute. While there are crooked cops in some area, arresting somebody turns into a lot of paperwork and you had bet your ass you are doing a legal lock-up! Cops just don't go around arresting people for no reason. One of these days I'll have to tell you about the guy I just went to court with who 'Didn't do anything wrong'.


As for your second link, that guy should be in jail and not on a television. It makes me sick to read:

“I had a good work record. Except I was a crook. But most of the people I worked with were crooks … I never learned about crime 'til I went in the police department. I always said that I really became an adept thief when I went in the Philadelphia police department.”

He learned how to shake down pimps and drug dealers and collect payoffs from bookmakers and mobsters -- pocketing thousands of dollars a week in addition to his regular paycheck.
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The asshole should be behind bars!
 
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See taylor theyre are cops who will help criminals. Thats why CBS puts 60 minutes on for .To show the public its not the little people why commit crimes. Its youre police officers and your top govermernt officals as well.
 
Earning respect goes both ways here Ravensteve,
 
Yeah Steve...Your right. Its the 'little people' who don't commit crimes...only us police officers. I'd love to take you around our city one night and show you what its really like out there. Its not like what you see on television.
 
All im saying is i want the police to leave the speeders,Red light volators and the people who dont feed the meter alone. Get the bastards who rape,Murder,Mug,Armed Robbers and burgalars. And leave the guys alone who pick up prositutes and youll see crime go down. Thats what canadian police do the importaint stuff, Thats why crime isnt a major issue in canada cause cops do importaint stuff not petty stuff.
 
Steve,
Problem with that is speeding and running red lights is a crime, but I see where you are coming from. Something to think about, though. Just tonight on my way in to work, I came across an accident from somebody who ran a red light (made a right turn without stopping at the red....just slowed down as a lot of people do). In your eyes, he commited no crime, yet somebody is now in the hospital. Should the driver who ran the red light not be charged? Under your scenario, he should not be charged. This means that the person who had the green light would now be responsible for their own bills...after all it would would be a no-fault accident since nobody can be charged. You talk about lawsuits, but now you are forcing somebody to pay for their own bills just for driving through a green light.

Suppose there had been no accident in the above situation....just a red light runner. You want us to leave him alone....fine. But at what point does it become a crime. 1 second after the light turns red? 3 seconds...5 seconds? Would we write somebody a ticket who ran it 5 seconds after it was red and let somebody go if it was only 2 seconds. Why couldn't the 5 second guy say we should let him go because we let the 2 second guy go? Make sense

OK, suppose you say it should only apply if somebody gets hurt...its only against the law if there is an accident....OK, I'll give you that. So, lets take the same scenario and involve guns. People should be able to break the law a little bit and fire a gun.....no crime unless somebody gets hurt, right? Suppose a person fires a gun into the air on New Years....they didn't shoot anyone so nobody gets hurt...this should be allowed, right? If so, then I could fire a gun into a crowd of people, but if I miss, I can't be charged...because nobody got hurt.

If we apply your scenario to only some laws, why not extend it other laws. Suppose a man hits his wife and gives her a bloody nose...He should go to jail, right? What if he hits her and her nose doesn't bleed? He didn't hit her that hard...so he only broke the law a 'little bit'. Would we have your endorsement on that?

Why ticket people for parking violations and those who don't feed the meter. Why not get rid of meters all together? If you were a small business owner in a district where parking was at a premium, what would you do if people left their cars there for days on end? Thats one of the reasons meters are there. What would you do if you came home one day, or worse yet, trying to leave for work one morning and there is a car blocking your driveway because there is no place to park. This happens daily in our city...why not just let people park wherever they want so we can go out and fight the 'real' crime.
 
I see your point taylor as an officer of the law. But suppose someone rapes my girl what am i supposed to do? Or someone kills my dad by breaking in and he gets caught but some asshole lawyer finds a loophole and set him free. Now should i just cry and whine at the funeral or should i just find him and gun him down like they do back in the old west? Seems to me police would be the blame if someone rapes my girl or killed and robs my dads home. In canada if your wandering around the streets police can stop the car without cause and start asking questions why youre wandering around here. See here you cant do that because of consitutional rights. Thats the differance between canada and the states. Enoforcing major crime should be your first priority everything else comes secondary. I see your point of accidents and people have to go to the hospital but thats the price of choosing to drive. Nobody forced you to own a car and drive a car you know the risks and you live a deal with the risks. Just like nobody forced you become a policeman you choose law enforcement as a career you know the risks and the dangers that comes with the job. You could have been an insurance salesman or a factory worker when you can go home see your wife and kids without facing a chance being shot by an criminal. Its like this, I love the game of football i know just how dangerous that sport is but i enjoy the hits and the pains go with it. I know one of these games i might not be able to walk again. But i choose to play that sport nobody put a gun to my head and say youre gonna play football. Thats my case if youre gonna drive a car, you must understand youre putting your life on the line everytime you touch that wheel.
 
Uh, ummmm, nevermind me, folks, I'm just here for my nightly dose of Steven's Ravings! :laugh2:
 
Tousi said:
Uh, ummmm, nevermind me, folks, I'm just here for my nightly dose of Steven's Ravings! :laugh2:
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LOL


Steve,
To address some of your points.

Seems to me police would be the blame if someone rapes my girl or killed and robs my dads home.
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The police aren't to blame if this happens...the criminal is to blame. See another thread going started by Cheri that talks about Gun ownership. Your safety is ultimately in your hands...not the police and not the goverment. Police come after the crime is being committed (in progress or after it has occured...something needs to initiate the police contact whether its a 911 call or an officer who just happens to be driving by).

In canada if your wandering around the streets police can stop the car without cause and start asking questions why youre wandering around here. See here you cant do that because of consitutional rights.
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I don't understand what your getting at. A few minutes ago you didn't want cops pulling people over for running red lights or speeding and committing petty crimes. Now you want us to pull them over for just driving around even though no crime has been committed? Make up your mind, dude....

Enoforcing major crime should be your first priority everything else comes secondary.
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It is....if a cop is on his way to a robbery, he isn't going to worry about somebody running a stop sign.

I see your point of accidents and people have to go to the hospital but thats the price of choosing to drive. Nobody forced you to own a car and drive a car you know the risks and you live a deal with the risks.
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True...nobody is holding a gun to your head making you drive, BUT they are forcing you to stop at red lights and to do the speed limit.

You could have been an insurance salesman or a factory worker when you can go home see your wife and kids without facing a chance being shot by an criminal.
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Your right...I could have chosen another profession, but nowadays, you can be shot whether your a police officer or a factory worker. You also stand a pretty good chance of getting injured in your house at 3am (going back to why law abiding citizens owning firearms).
 
Taylor said:
I don't understand what your getting at. A few minutes ago you didn't want cops pulling people over for running red lights or speeding and committing petty crimes. Now you want us to pull them over for just driving around even though no crime has been committed? Make up your mind, dude....
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What i mean is if you see someone just walking down the street at midnight pull over stop your car and get out ask the man what is he doing here? are you lost? thats what cops in canada do. It stops most crimes from taking place. Dont you know most burgalaries happen at night? Burgalars work at night when everyone sleeps thats their advantage so people dont look out the window and call the cops like they would at daytime. Criminals are very smart. They know when and when not go out a mug somebody or rape some girl. If cops would just ignore that consitution crime would go way down. Look at the patroit act. Its stopping al queda from attacking us again isnt it? Arabs are being arrested by the FBI before they can strike again. Samething here i think the consitutuion should be suspended after midnight so you can patrol down our neighborhoods and you see anyone wandering around and walking down the street pull over and start asking questions. If they take off running you know theyre up to something.
 
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