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I saw this also on the TV news. It doesn't sound good. :(

Is Feb. 10 financial doomsday for thousands?
New law could force companies into ruin

Posted: January 08, 2009

By Chelsea Schilling
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

A new government regulation scheduled to take effect next month has thousands of retailers, thrift stores and small businesses worried they will be forced to permanently close their doors – and destroy their merchandise.

The law is expected to have such a devastating impact that Feb. 10 is now unofficially known as "National Bankruptcy Day."

Congress passed the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008, or HR 4040, a retroactive rule mandating that all items sold for use by children under 12 must be tested by an independent party for lead and phthalates, which are chemicals used to make plastics more pliable.

All untested items, regardless of lead content, are to be declared "banned hazardous products.'' The CPSC has already determined the law applies to every children's item on shelves, not just to items made beginning Feb. 10.

The regulations could force thousands of businesses – especially smaller ones that cannot afford the cost of lead testing – to throw away truckloads of children's clothing, books, toys, furniture and other children's items and even force them to close their doors.


Valerie Jacobsen and her husband, Paul, support their family of 13 by selling literature at Jacobsen Books in Clinton, Wis. Her family has contracts with local libraries to buy and sell overstocked books – an arrangement that draws income for both parties.

However, Jacobsen told WND that lead testing is estimated to cost $100 to $400 for each of her used children's books because she does not buy in bulk, and each batch of merchandise is required to be tested.

"There's a big difference between me and Wal-Mart or Toys 'R' Us," she said. "They'll have a batch of 50,000. Everything I have is a batch of one because I don't know its history. I'm looking at a testing cost of about $1.2 million. I would normally sell my full inventory of all children's products for probably $15,000. So, it's effectively a ban."

The Consumer Product Safety Commission states that lead testing requirements apply to children's books, cassettes and CDs, printed game boards, posters and other printed goods used for children's education. While it does claim some printing inks will be exempt, paper, cardboard, bindings, glues, laminates and other inks are still subject to regulation and require testing.

Jacobsen said that unless the new law is repealed or substantially modified, it could devastate her family business.

"I don't want to stop selling children's books on Feb. 9," she said. "I need that income. We provide a lot of reading for a lot of little kids. I went into this business because I thought that books were good for children's mental development. That opinion hasn't changed. And the government's ruling is essentially saying they're hazardous for children's mental development because they might contain lead. We just have no evidence that they do."

Jacobsen said she often shops at second-hand stores for her 11 children because she can buy quality clothing at low prices.

"Over the years I have always tried to make the most of our money, so we'll go to Goodwill," she said. "To be honest, I'd rather go to Goodwill and get a brand-name item that's hardly been worn and pay $3.99 for it than to go to Wal-Mart and pay $13.99 for something that in six weeks from now is not going to worth anything."

But now some thrift and consignment stores are in a panic over the new regulation because it extends to children's clothing, shoes and other items as well.

Cindy Retmier owns a consignment store called Jordan's Closet in El Dorado Hills, Calif. She told KXTV News 10 that the law could close her business.

"[W]e've been passing kids clothing down for centuries," she said. "Now all of sudden you can't do it because there might be too much lead in one item out of a thousand? I mean it's ridiculous they've taken it to the extent they've taken it right now."

She estimates testing for each of her clothing articles to run between $300 and $1,500. The Consumer Product Safety Commission said it may consider exempting clothing and toys made from natural materials such as wool or wood, but paint and dyes on the products are still required to be tested.

"We only sell stuff for an average of $10 so, of course that doesn't make sense," Ritmier said.

Even Goodwill Industries told the station it may be forced to stop selling clothing and other children's items if testing is too expensive. The move could affect consumers who donate items for tax write-offs if the stores are not able to sell them.

"A huge hit for us and a huge hit for consumers that are trying to save a dollar in this economy," Goodwill's Mark Klingler told KXTV. "We'll have to analyze it. It may involve not selling if we can't realistically test everything."

Likewise, Shauna Sloan, founder of the Salt Lake City-based Kid to Kid Franchise, which sells used children's clothing in 75 stores across the country, told the Los Angeles Times his business could end.

"We will have to lock our doors and file for bankruptcy," he said.

All children's toys and furniture also fall under strict requirements for independent lead and phthalate testing. Some small toy businesses say lead testing alone costs more than $4,000 per item – a price some say only large companies like Mattel and Fisher Price can afford to pay.

"The only people who can do that now are the ones who actually put this scare into effect and actually caused the problem," Amy Evan's, owner of Baby's Boutique in Chico, Calif., told CBS' KHSL.

Shelsie Hall told KXTV she makes hair bows and jewelry for children and sells them online to support her family.

Now her small business is threatened by the measure because those products must be tested.

"[M]y items sell for $4 to $10 and I make a lot of different things. So I couldn't just test one; I would have to test every item," she said.

One blogger who identifies herself as "Tina" has a home-based business making and selling cloth diapers online. She said a U.S. lab quoted a price of $75 to test each component of her diapers.

"I have at least two different fabrics, thread, snaps and elastic in a diaper," she wrote. "$375 to test each different combination of fabrics/snaps/thread/size combinations? That is insane."

She continued, "I am but one of many micro-manufacturers who will be forced to give up the American dream of owning my own business because of this legislation."

Tina said retailers purchase inventory with loans secured by the value of that inventory.

"What happens to these lenders and retailers when the value of that inventory goes to zero?" she asked. "It is conceivable, at least to me, that retailers will be the next group in front of Congress asking for a bailout."

The act's broad wording could extend to children's items sold on eBay, Craig's List, Amazon and even garage sales – also sources of income for individuals.

Critics also say landfills will be hit hard if stores, distributors and families simply throw their untested items away rather than face prosecution. And new clothing, toys, furniture and books at large retailers could become more expensive to cover third-party testing costs.

Tentative exemptions

While the Consumer Product Safety Commission administers the law, it may only be changed by Congress. Some exemptions approved Tuesday by the commission's two members, but not formally adopted, include the following:

* Items with lead parts that a child cannot access;
* Clothing, toys and other goods made of natural materials such as cotton and wood; and
* Electronics that are impossible to make without lead.

But the tentative exemptions do little to reassure most businesses and families who will be affected by the law. Final rules are not scheduled for approval until after Feb. 10, when the rules take effect.

Taking action

Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Il., sponsored the measure along with 106 co-sponsors. In the House of Representatives, 424 members voted for the act, nine voted "present" and a single member voted against it – Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas.

In the Senate, the totals were 89 for, eight "present" and three against – Sens. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., Jim DeMint, R-S.C., and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.

President George Bush signed it into law on Aug. 14, 2008.

The measure raises the CPSC budget each year until 2015, at which time the agency's budget would be $156 million. It also allows state attorneys general to take civil action against those who violate the strict regulations.

While some may continue to sell their children's products and disobey the law, Jacobsen told WND she's not taking any chances at her bookstore.

"Would I ever get caught? Probably not," she said. "But they are talking about $100,000 fines and jail terms of up to five years. I'm not comfortable operating with that law on the books."

Instead, she said she will fight the measure and raise public awareness.

"I'm planning to put a chain across our children's department and put up a sign that says, "Banned hazardous material,'" she said. "I'll ask my customers as they come in to please write their congressmen, call senators and get the word out there. I will tell them, 'I can let you in now,' but four weeks from now, I won't be able to do that."

Jacobsen's plans don't stop there.

"I am going to go to my legislator's office, and I'm going to take my children's books there," she said. "I'm going to ask him, 'Do you want me to put these in the landfill? Do you want me to burn these?' What am I going to do with them? I can't just warehouse them until they come to their senses."

She suggested the public begin writing and calling lawmakers and demanding exemptions to the law.

"I think the whole thing should be trashed, personally," she said. "It was so short-sighted. People who were doing the importing of lead are going to be rewarded when little companies like mine go under. When you take everything on a retailer's shelf and tell them they cannot sell it, that's bankruptcy."

Concerned individuals may contact senators and representatives and the Consumer Product Safety Commission.
Is Feb. 10 financial doomsday for thousands?

This could be devastating to small businesses, families on a budget, and landfills.

I'm glad that my Senator (DeMint) voted against it but sadly that wasn't enough to stop it from passing.
 
ouch.... what can I say....
 
I basically skimmed over the article but it makes me wonder about those FDA folks who have so much stuff coming from China that some products that otherwise would have been turned back, actually get through.
 
Why it is necessary to test both lead and phthalate ? I can sense somethin' went wrong. I don't feel it is right -- I mean, there's somethin' goin' on.

I also read one article says about Macy's stores will be closin', too due to economy crisis. Not just Macy's stores, but other stores such as Circuit City, Linen N- Thing stores, and so forth. It spreads all over the USA. How sad. :(
 
Closing of thrift stores who can't do that testing will make life harder for low income people too.
 
Closing of thrift stores who can't do that testing will make life harder for low income people too.

Yea, I love shoppin' there. My favorite parts are antique things. :(
 
Why it is necessary to test both lead and phthalate ? I can sense somethin' went wrong. I don't feel it is right -- I mean, there's somethin' goin' on.

I also read one article says about Macy's stores will be closin', too due to economy crisis. Not just Macy's stores, but other stores such as Circuit City, Linen N- Thing stores, and so forth. It spreads all over the USA. How sad. :(

so do you want to wear a clothes or give a toy to a kid that dangerous level of lead/phthalate?
 
so do you want to wear a clothes or give a toy to a kid that dangerous level of lead/phthalate?

I don't think anyone wants that, but the items from places like thrift stores are safe, they are just one of a kind and used and the stores won't be able to afford the testing.
 
so do you want to wear a clothes or give a toy to a kid that dangerous level of lead/phthalate?

Clothes ? Am I missin' somethin' here ? Why clothes ? Is there an article that says about Clothin' Recall ... if, so since when ?

I know about toys that contained lead - read about this when China stopped sendin' toys to USA.

But, clothes...... ? Come on, get real.
 
I don't think anyone wants that, but the items from places like thrift stores are safe, they are just one of a kind and used and the stores won't be able to afford the testing.

that's true. Looks like we're having another unreasonable McCarthyism-like fear.
 
Clothes ? Am I missin' somethin' here ? Why clothes ? Is there an article that says about Clothin' Recall ... if, so since when ?

I know about toys that contained lead - read about this when China stopped sendin' toys to USA.

But, clothes...... ? Come on, get real.

ever heard of clothes containing chemical that is harmful especially for babies? Remember the news about flame retardant bedding and clothing for babies several years ago? Shady dry cleaners or sweatshops use cheap, harmful chemical on clothes that can cause rash/allergic reaction.
 
ever heard of clothes containing chemical that is harmful especially for babies? Remember the news about flame retardant bedding and clothing for babies several years ago? Shady dry cleaners or sweatshops use cheap, harmful chemical on clothes that can cause rash/allergic reaction.


Well, if they do that then -- don't you think that they will do the same thing on fruits, too just because fruits also contain some chemicals from sprays ? Will they close some grocery stores for the same reasons, too ? And, what else ? Don't forget some owners owned their grocery stores. Don't wanna them to be next.
 
Well, if they do that then -- don't you think that they will do the same thing on fruits, too just because fruits also contain some chemicals from sprays ? Will they close some grocery stores for the same reasons, too ? And, what else ? Don't forget some owners owned their grocery stores. Don't wanna them to be next.

which is why I said in Post #11 - "Looks like we're having another unreasonable McCarthyism-like fear."
 
Another example of people killing the ecomonic just for their health's sake :mad2: They can be perfect healthy, but they will have no money, no job, and what kind of life was that?
 
Why it is necessary to test both lead and phthalate ? I can sense somethin' went wrong. I don't feel it is right -- I mean, there's somethin' goin' on.

I also read one article says about Macy's stores will be closin', too due to economy crisis. Not just Macy's stores, but other stores such as Circuit City, Linen N- Thing stores, and so forth. It spreads all over the USA. How sad. :(

It is necessary to test for both because both have negative health effects. This doesn't have anything to do with the economy, but with product safety.
 
Well, if they do that then -- don't you think that they will do the same thing on fruits, too just because fruits also contain some chemicals from sprays ? Will they close some grocery stores for the same reasons, too ? And, what else ? Don't forget some owners owned their grocery stores. Don't wanna them to be next.

So you would prefer that a child suffer mental retardation and liver failure as the result of playing with toys containing unacceptble levels of lead and phalates? Or that a child be born with severe birth defects because the mother was exposed to unacceptable levels during her pregnancy?
 
So you would prefer that a child suffer mental retardation and liver failure as the result of playing with toys containing unacceptble levels of lead and phalates? Or that a child be born with severe birth defects because the mother was exposed to unacceptable levels during her pregnancy?
How big of a problem is lead and phthalate poisoning from children's products? Is it a huge epidemic or a few cases a year? What are the benefits compared to the costs?

Just because a law purportedly saves children from poisoning, that doesn't mean the law's opponents are indifferent to child poisoning. Rather, we need to look at these things as trade-offs because of the law of unintended consequences. If small businesses have to close down and poor people who usually shop at consignment stores are forced to pay extra to buy their kids' clothes and toys brand new, that would lower the standard of living for the small business owners, their employees, and their customers. A lower standard of living is not beneficial to the health of children in already struggling families. The law's supporters probably did not intend that result, but it's very common for government solutions to be worse than the problems they try to fix.
 
How big of a problem is lead and phthalate poisoning from children's products? Is it a huge epidemic or a few cases a year? What are the benefits compared to the costs?

Just because a law purportedly saves children from poisoning, that doesn't mean the law's opponents are indifferent to child poisoning. Rather, we need to look at these things as trade-offs because of the law of unintended consequences. If small businesses have to close down and poor people who usually shop at consignment stores are forced to pay extra to buy their kids' clothes and toys brand new, that would lower the standard of living for the small business owners, their employees, and their customers. A lower standard of living is not beneficial to the health of children in already struggling families. The law's supporters probably did not intend that result, but it's very common for government solutions to be worse than the problems they try to fix.


When it comes to the prevention of birth defects and health issues for children created by dangerous products there is no trade off.

And if a low income parent has a child that suffers from lead poisoning, the health care costs and educational expenses alone will far out weigh any savings from shopping at a consignment shop.

If these shops are selling products that are harmful, then they need to pull those products from their inventory.

Are you saying that if only a few kids a year suffer the consequences of lead poisoning (consequences that are life long, BTW) or are born with severe birth defects from phalates, it is a perfectly acceptable situation? Or are you saying that its okay for poor kids to take the risk, but not kids from more affluent families?
 
When it comes to the prevention of birth defects and health issues for children created by dangerous products there is no trade off.
Actually, that's not true. If it were true, we would never drive our kids anywhere because car accidents are the greatest risk of accidental death. Risk is impossible to totally eliminate. If I have a child and pay to have every single thing I own tested for every possible harmful chemical and have my place entirely childproofed, I won't have much money leftover for such things as food, rent, diapers, medicine, etc. And my place will still not be 100% safe for him or her. That's why we have to think in terms of trade-offs.

And if a low income parent has a child that suffers from lead poisoning, the health care costs and educational expenses alone will far out weigh any savings from shopping at a consignment shop.

If these shops are selling products that are harmful, then they need to pull those products from their inventory.
That's assuming the products sold at consignment stores to the poor are riskier than new items sold at chain retail stores. I've seen no evidence of this. Actually, this legislation was a reaction to tainted merchandise sold by China to large companies like Mattel. However, such companies won't be affected by this nearly as much as the small companies and consignment shops. When the cost to test their inventories is several multiples of what the inventory's worth, I don't see how they can possibly stay in business without going underground.

Are you saying that if only a few kids a year suffer the consequences of lead poisoning (consequences that are life long, BTW) or are born with severe birth defects from phalates, it is a perfectly acceptable situation? Or are you saying that its okay for poor kids to take the risk, but not kids from more affluent families?
Believe me- I don't like it any more than you do, but we have to accept some risks. Refusing to accept risks is about as foolish as refusing to accept gravity. I would turn the question back on you- is it perfectly acceptable to destroy businesses, jobs, and wallets during already difficult times when such action is unlikely to curb a risk that's already low to begin with?
 
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