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BradB08 said:
Do they all come from the Phyllis Schlafly school of thought?
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How would I know? I haven't taken a survey. :lol:
 
Byrdie714 said:
That's a name I haven't heard in awhile.
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Same here. I read her autobiography decades ago, but I haven't kept up with her doings in recent years.
 
Reba said:
Don't schools TEACH TEACH TEACH teens that they shouldn't smoke, drive drunk, or abuse drugs? Well, teens still smoke, drive drunk, and abuse drugs.
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easy to teach those but not sex because it's the most uncomfortable and embarrassing subject to talk about.
 
Jiro said:
easy to teach those but not sex because it's the most uncomfortable and embarrassing subject to talk about.
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The point is, parents and schools can TEACH kids until they turn blue in the face but that doesn't mean the kids will take that teaching to heart.
 
Reba said:
The point is, parents and schools can TEACH kids until they turn blue in the face but that doesn't mean the kids will take that teaching to heart.
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I think kids prefer to learn about sex rather than any other subjects but most adults are just not comfortable to talk about it. It's something like learning how to eat or shit - "you'll figure it out eventually"
 
Reba said:
The point is, parents and schools can TEACH kids until they turn blue in the face but that doesn't mean the kids will take that teaching to heart.
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You must not have much faith in kids then. While it's easy to dismiss today's teens as nothing but irresponsible and promiscuous, there are always exceptions to the rule.
 
BradB08 said:
You must not have much faith in kids then. While it's easy to dismiss today's teens as nothing but irresponsible and promiscuous, there are always exceptions to the rule.
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I haven't dismissed today's teens as nothing but irresponsible and promiscuous. There are many teens who have victory over the temptations of the world and peer pressure. They live industrious, wholesome lives, sometimes because of their environment and teachings, sometimes despite their environment and teachings.

It doesn't matter if I have faith in kids. The statistics prove that I'm right. Just "teaching" by itself won't guarantee kids who don't drive drunk, use drugs, or sleep around. Kids are free willed.
 
BradB08 said:
Do conservative parents teach their kids anything?
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Only absitinence from absolutely everything, which, obviously, is completely unrealistic and ineffective. Better to provide accurate information instead of using scare tactics and illiciting unrealistic promises of "I would never do that Mom and Dad!"
 
dreama said:
Totally agree. I also wanted to be steralized and I think this choice should be on offer on demand instead of abortion. Their would be many less deaths if that was the case.
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I believe that the abortion is the worse horrifyin' than sterlization. I despise abortion. I don't think that the abortion is the BEST option in my own eyes.

By havin' sterlization, it is more less to feel guilty or trauma than havin' an abortion.
 
jillio said:
Only absitinence from absolutely everything, which, obviously, is completely unrealistic and ineffective. Better to provide accurate information instead of using scare tactics and illiciting unrealistic promises of "I would never do that Mom and Dad!"
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...and BradB08 thought that I didn't have much faith in kids! :lol:

BTW, I don't know any conservative parents who teach their kids to abstain from "absolutely everything." A bit of hyperbole, eh?
 
Maria said:
I believe that the abortion is the worse horrifyin' than sterlization. I despise abortion. I don't think that the abortion is the BEST option in my own eyes.

By havin' sterlization, it is more less to feel guilty or trauma than havin' an abortion.
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that's fine. that's why it's called an option. You can choose NOT to have abortion. :cool2:
 
Jiro said:
that's fine. that's why it's called an option. You can choose NOT to have abortion. :cool2:
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Unfortunately, some conservatives are so adamant in taking the choice away from other people.

What a country we live in, eh?
 
BradB08 said:
Unfortunately, some conservatives are so adamant in taking the choice away from other people.

What a country we live in, eh?
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A free one in which everyone still can make the choice for themselves, thank god!
 
Jiro said:
that's fine. that's why it's called an option. You can choose NOT to have abortion. :cool2:
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I'd be careful who you tell this to. Have you forgotten what Maria told us in the other thread.

Unfortunately Teenagers CAN'T always CHOOSE not to have an abortion. The choice is made by their parents and they have to live with the concequences.
 
dreama said:
I'd be careful who you tell this to. Have you forgotten what Maria told us in the other thread.

Unfortunately Teenagers CAN'T always CHOOSE not to have an abortion. The choice is made by their parents and they have to live with the concequences.
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First of all, you don't live in this country. Second of all, you're wasting your time getting in a huff over laws that do not affect you whatsoever.

Third of all, Jiro already pointed out your lack of knowledge of American laws in another thread.

Focus on the laws in the UK if you're so passionate. Let the Americans worry about American laws.
 
dreama said:
I'd be careful who you tell this to. Have you forgotten what Maria told us in the other thread.

Unfortunately Teenagers CAN'T always CHOOSE not to have an abortion. The choice is made by their parents and they have to live with the concequences.
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the reason why the law puts teenagers' decisions to parents until they are 18 years old is because the law deemed teenagers as unfit and immatured to make sound legal judgment. Teenagers think baby is all lovey and dovey... so cute but they do not realize the painful CONSEQUENCES of it. The "consequences" that you speak of is NOTHING COMPARED to the consequence of having baby by teens. The statistic has OVERWHELMINGLY SHOWN that babies born of teen pregnancy do not fare well. They either get abused or killed.... or suffer physical/mental defect. Plus - it put teen preggies at great risk of death.

Please check out the site - National Campaign to Prevent Teen & Unplanned Pregnancy
Preventing Unplanned and Teen Pregnancy: Why It Matters

Teen pregnancy is closely linked to a host of other critical social issues — poverty and income, overall child well-being, out-of-wedlock births, responsible fatherhood, health issues, education, child welfare, and other risky behavior. There are also substantial public costs associated with adolescent childbearing. Consequently, teen pregnancy should be viewed not only as a reproductive health issue, but as one that works to improve all of these measures. Simply put, if more children in this country were born to parents who are ready and able to care for them, we would see a significant reduction in a host of social problems afflicting children in the United States, from school failure and crime to child abuse and neglect.

Like teen pregnancy, unplanned pregnancy among young adults is at the root of a number of important public health and social challenges. Unplanned pregnancies are frequently resolved by abortion—1.3 million in the United State in 2001, and although Americans differ a great deal in their views about abortion, virtually all of us see value in lessening the need for abortion and would prefer that fewer women have to confront an unplanned pregnancy in the first place.

In addition, in the most recent year for which good data are available, there were about 567,000 births from pregnancies that women themselves say they did not want at the time of conception or ever in the future. These children are particularly vulnerable. For example, even when taking into account various social and economic factors, women experiencing an unplanned pregnancy are less likely to obtain prenatal care, and their babies are at increased risk of both low birthweight and of being born prematurely. They are also less likely to be breastfed.

Children born from unplanned pregnancies also face a range of developmental risks as well. For example, these children report poorer physical and mental health compared to children born as the result of an intended pregnancy. And a new analysis from Child Trends indicates that, after controlling for numerous background factors, children 2 years old who were born as the result of an unplanned pregnancy have significantly lower cognitive test scores when compared to children born as the result of an intended pregnancy.

In addition, the majority of children from an unplanned pregnancy are born to unmarried women. This is important because children raised in single-parent families face more challenges in a variety of areas than do children raised in two-parent, low-conflict married families. For example, when compared to similar children who grow up with two parents, children in one-parent families are more likely to be poor, drop out of high school, have lower grade-point averages, lower college aspirations, and poorer school attendance records. As adults, they also have higher rates of divorce. Such data suggest that reducing unplanned pregnancy will increase the proportion of children born into circumstances that better support their growth and development.
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next - read several PDF files from this link.
* Linking Teen Pregnancy to Other Social Issues
* The Public Costs of Teen Childbearing
* Teen Pregnancy, Poverty, and Income
* Teen Pregnancy and Overall Child Well-Being
* Teen Pregnancy, Out-of-Wedlock Births, Healthy Relationships, and Marriage
* Teen Pregnancy and Responsible Fatherhood
* Teen Pregnancy and Other Health Issues
* Teen Pregnancy and Education
* Teen Pregnancy and Child Welfare
* Teen Pregnancy and Other Risky Behaviors
* Teen Pregnancy and Violence
 
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