McCain: Obama wrong on Iraq, Afghanistan

[Jiro]

Do u think that will really happen? I truly hope so but I dont trust the lobbyists for these oil companies. Money talks...

well the only way oil companies will keep us addicted to oils is if they can bring down the gas price to $2-3 which is probably not going to happen. They have no choice but to invest on new capitalism - the alternative energy. Don't forget - it IS a profitable field. Don't think you'll be getting free or ultra-cheap energy just cuz you got your power from wind or water.

 

[Tousi]

Well, Byrdie, allow me to allay some of your tree-hugging fears! Of all the places I have been to, Alaska's my favorite. I trust those in Congress who set up regs as to where in the ANWR oil & gas drilling can take place. I don't think most people really know just where this area is. The area allowed within the ANWR for drilling is a relatively tiny area. This area is neither a refuge nor wilderness; it was specifically set aside by Congress for oil and gas exploration because of its well known evidence of said commodities. It has practically no life and is barren.

So let's be careful not to believe the entire area of ANWR is open to exploration. In fact, the area set aside for this activity has a footprint of just 2, 000 acres! That's what.....less than 1/2 of a percent of the entire area.

The thing that bugs me is that development cannot proceed without Congressional say-so and they (we all will) rue the day that this issue was on the back burner for so long. Had they proceeded ten years ago there and elsewhere in the USA, we would be online now!!!! It takes about that long! Get some backbone, already, Congress!!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I think this is good that gas price is up. This means we need to change our lazy wasteful way of life. This means urban planning will revolve around "green-friendly" lifestyle. More/better/efficient/faster mass transit, less traffic jam, more people will occupy empty lands (mid-west, in-land states, etc.) which will reduce the overcrowding issue on coastal zones, so on....

This is for good - a positive change in our life!

That's positive thinking...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yup but I live closer to work, about 5 miles on 1 way and it took nearly 2 week to refill my car, however I just cut on driving time to shopping or other errands to few time per week, using train, bus and walk when to visit city center.

Yup, I do understand about gas price is really outrage but I was explain about drilling wouldn't help to cut the gas price in big time, it would probably several cents off, some left unchange or some are still rise. I just favor into other energy source or alternative fuel, that would very helpful to cut the energy cost in big time, only cons is we have to replace the vehicle to meet the standard and it will taking about decade to more common.

For me, I'm using common sense with life to prevent from bother on high gas price, such as move to place that's closer to work or other cities that's offers great public transportation, however I know it's not for everyone, such as farmers or employees that require to lift the heavy material to transport it or semi-truck that's shipping freight to retail or businesses.

Ditto...

Yes, I use my good common sense with kind of life I lead to when I use a car to travel to work everyday... Gasonline and foods expenses... I do something to change it...

If I want to go shopping then use bicycle... to get something small like milk, bread, fresh meats, etc.

If we need big shopping like big foods and drinks for week... then do that once a week is saturdays.

If we want to go city for shopping spree then take a train instead of drive and park there because car park there is very expensive... Use train is cheaply.


At the moment many scentists are trying to do something with oil... German scentists are trying to use water and corn for car instead of gasonline... successful?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

For starters, in your link:

"When Mr. Obama, 46, earlier this month said Mr. McCain was 'losing his bearings' for suggesting the terrorist group, Hamas, favored Mr. Obama, the McCain campaign issued an angry statement.

“'He used the words ‘losing his bearings’ intentionally, a not-particularly-clever way of raising John McCain’s age as an issue,'” said Mark Salter, a senior McCain aide."

Yes, Mark Salter said this.

How is Obama "positive" when those links showed that he "criticized" and "slammed" McCain?

OIC--if Obama criticizes McCain, that's positive; if McCain criticizes Obama, that's negative.

Be careful dear--your bias is showing.

The fact is: Obama did not belittle and judge McCain but against McCain's word and explain why he disagree.

The fact is: McCain DID said that Obama is wrong... lack of experience.... young.... like belittle and judge him...

I do not have any problem for McCain and Obama criticized each other over political issues why they disagree... but I have the problem is belittle and judge...

I DID ask anyone to show me where Obama criticized McCain in NEGATIVE way like what McCain did to Obama over his lack of experience, wrong, ... If McCain want to say something to against Obama then said something in manner way instead of judge/belittle him... Get the difference?

It's disrespectful to misspell people's names, especially three times in a row.

Yes, ma'dam

 

[Liebling:-)))]

:jaw:

I am total appalled over your comment here because everyone knows terrorist could be smart sometimes... I thought you know it, don't you?

Can you please explain me how could someone label McCain as a experience for know about milatary, etc. ? Look at what and how terrorists attacked on many countries to kill inncoents people... ? Never say or brag that solider has an experience or expert about miltary ... :roll:

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Then I suggest that they start drilling off the South Carolina coast.

Besides several endangered species reside at ANWR....

Polar bears are endangered species and are frequents visitors of ANWR.

I'm sure that if you are walking along the South Carolina beaches, hand in hand with hubby being romantic, that looking out into the horizon of the ocean and seeing oil wells would picturesque. NOT!

Guess this discussion is going to be "agree to disagree." I been to ANWR and it is one of the most beautiful places on earth and just don't see any justification drilling for oil there.

Yes I second that. I support enviornment-friendly. I would not want to see any damage thru drilling oil at beautiful places...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

OK. I can't afford any new car.

gasonline expense...

Yes, I'm happy not to live in Europe.

http://www.alldeaf.com/1043365-post10.html

I only pay gasonline expenses every 6 to 7 weeks when I use a car everyday.

I'm glad not to live in America.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I think we need to stop relying heavily on oil and find alternative use for energy/fuel.

Exactly

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I am against of drilling oil in ANWR and offshore.

Ditto

poor polar bears.. I feel want to them...

 

[Byrdie714]

That doesn't mean it took 20 years to recover; it just means I checked it today, not 10 years ago.

I really don't know; maybe he wants to diversify.

I'm not opposed to finding alternative means of energy. I believe that using one kind of energy doesn't negate also using another. We should tap into all the resources possible.

Then we should find other alternative means of energy instead of , "I think there is oil there--let's drill" mentality.

The 5 to 13 ratio isn't important. Not all groups are created equal in size, credibility, objectivity, or influence.

I also opened and read some of the links that weren't specifically under the "oppose" or "support" categories, and found more support, particularly from some of the indigenous groups.

Of course you would find support from the indigenous people due to the American government not supporting them enough--financially.

Besides we need to diversify our energy sources instead of relying heavily on oil. There is wind, solar, nuclear power.

 

[Foxrac]

Polar bears are endangered species and are frequents visitors of ANWR.

I'm sure that if you are walking along the South Carolina beaches, hand in hand with hubby being romantic, that looking out into the horizon of the ocean and seeing oil wells would picturesque. NOT!

Guess this discussion is going to be "agree to disagree." I been to ANWR and it is one of the most beautiful places on earth and just don't see any justification drilling for oil there.

lol, if oil spill so accidently on SC beach then Reba will yell and her hair would be spiked then run away so hard, she would probably says Byrdie is professionally right.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

lol, if oil spill so accidently on SC beach then Reba will yell and her hair would be spiked then run away so hard, she would probably said Byrdie is professionally right.

Oh yes, you have a good memory over those word "hair spiked"... I love those word when Reba spoke at other thread.. "my hair is spiked"...

 

[Reba]

...Besides we need to diversify our energy sources instead of relying heavily on oil. There is wind, solar, nuclear power.

I keep saying that too, but no one seems to notice.

Yes, I want us to drill wherever we can to get enough oil so we don't have to depend on imports. BUT I ALSO WANT US TO EXPLORE AND USE OTHER SOURCES OF POWER, SUCH AS WIND, SOLAR, HYDROELECTRIC, AND NUCLEAR. I ALSO SUPPORT CONSERVATION EFFORTS BY INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, GOVERNMENTS, AND ORGANIZATIONS.


I'm out of breath. Whew!

 

[Reba]

Oh yes, you have a good memory over those word "hair spiked"... I love those word when Reba spoke at other thread.. "my hair is spiked"...

I'm afraid my hair's a little longer now, so it no longer spikes.

Even a granny like me tries to keep up with changing styles.

 

[shel90]

I keep saying that too, but no one seems to notice.

Yes, I want us to drill wherever we can to get enough oil so we don't have to depend on imports. BUT I ALSO WANT US TO EXPLORE AND USE OTHER SOURCES OF POWER, SUCH AS WIND, SOLAR, HYDROELECTRIC, AND NUCLEAR. I ALSO SUPPORT CONSERVATION EFFORTS BY INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, GOVERNMENTS, AND ORGANIZATIONS.


I'm out of breath. Whew!

LOL!

I agree with you so what do u think of our chances of these possibilities becoming a reality? I just have a hard time believing that the day we dont rely heavily on oil is coming anytime soon because of how much power the lobbyists for the oil companies have on our govt.

 

[Reba]

LOL!

I agree with you so what do u think of our chances of these possibilities becoming a reality? I just have a hard time believing that the day we dont rely heavily on oil is coming anytime soon because of how much power the lobbyists for the oil companies have on our govt.

I don't think alternative fuels for vehicles will be a quick change. But I think if more power plants can convert to other sources, including providing heating for homes, then that would take some of the demand for those things. Then the petroleum could be used for manufacturing processes and products, mechanical lubricants, and vehicles.

I would love to see more inexpensive-to-use public transportation provided, with updated infrastructure to make it more practical. That would take a lot of cars off the roads. Not everyone could make use of public transportation but if more people could use it, then that would reduce commuter burden.

We need some bold and ethical leaders in government to do what it takes without worrying about their political butts or popularity. Knowing human nature, that's not too likely.

 

[Tousi]

Byrdie, did you see post # 82?

 

[Reba]

...Had they proceeded ten years ago there and elsewhere in the USA, we would be online now!!!!

Yesiree!

 

[Jiro]

I'm afraid my hair's a little longer now, so it no longer spikes.

Even a granny like me tries to keep up with changing styles.

show us the pix!