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[Jiro]

Granted that may be true but still....how do you know those investors are trustworthy with your money? Afterall, we've had heard of investors making poor choices with people's money. Myself--I like to know where my money is and where it's going and why.

The difference between Obama and McCain is that McCain "married" into money whereas the Obamas are self-made millionaires.

Big difference between the two.

Wouldn't you want a President that knows the details of every little thing that passes by his desk before he signs off on it?

Nothing wrong with a micromanaging nit picker--it just shows that one actually pays attention to the details.

Do we really want a President that is not detail oriented? I think not.

The best CEOs don't micromanage. The best senior military leaders don't micromanage. They have staffs for that. The top executive needs to see the big picture, deal with the other top dogs, and delegate the execution of strategies to the right people.

Anyone who has worked under a micromanaging boss knows how little gets accomplished.

Reba speaks the truth. so do many management books. Read "The Lazy Millionaire" for starter. If you micromanage everything especially as the President, you'll never get anything done.

this shows Obama does not know how to manage a large scale operation like.... government agencies. this shows how naive Obama is on how the world really works. this FURTHER shows Obama's inexperience.

 

[jillio]

Reba speaks the truth. so do many management books. Read "The Lazy Millionaire" for starter. If you micromanage everything especially as the President, you'll never get anything done.

this shows Obama does not know how to manage a large scale operation like.... government agencies. this shows how naive Obama is on how the world really works. this FURTHER shows Obama's inexperience.

Obviously, you don't understand the concept of "detail oriented".

And I bet Obama knows how many houses he owns!

 

[Reba]

I prefer my President stay focused on my country's business rather than his personal money-making business or any monkey business..

 

[Jiro]

Obviously, you don't understand the concept of "detail oriented".

And I bet Obama knows how many houses he owns!

oh gee I'm sorry that you want the President to care about trivial things that his staff can handle. I'm sure Obama would know how many houses he owns.... judging from his background... of course.. he's certainly not a very busy political man!

President of USA is not a detail-oriented job. It's an intense management-oriented job, silly.

I prefer my President stay focused on my country's business rather than his personal money-making business or any monkey business..

 

[Byrdie714]

oh gee I'm sorry that you want the President to care about trivial things that his staff can handle. I'm sure Obama would know how many houses he owns.... judging from his background... of course.. he's certainly not a very busy political man!

President of USA is not a detail-oriented job. It's an intense management-oriented job, silly.

The point about their money was that they are both wealthy. It's not a matter of rich Republicans vs poor Democrats. There are also wealthy Democrats who marry money (John Kerry) or inherit it (Ted Kennedy).

The best CEOs don't micromanage. The best senior military leaders don't micromanage. They have staffs for that. The top executive needs to see the big picture, deal with the other top dogs, and delegate the execution of strategies to the right people.

Anyone who has worked under a micromanaging boss knows how little gets accomplished.

Obviously, you don't understand the concept of "detail oriented".
And I bet Obama knows how many houses he owns!

Plus what is wrong with micro-management? An individual who micromanages obviously knows the company, inside-out. The individual is being detailed oriented.

The people who complain about being micromanage obviously have trouble following orders from their bosses and therefore should look for another job.

I would rather have a President that micromanages as they are detail oriented instead of leaving things in a gray area where one has to assume.

 

[Tousi]

Plus what is wrong with micro-management? An individual who micromanages obviously knows the company, inside-out. The individual is being detailed oriented.

The people who complain about being micromanage obviously have trouble following orders from their bosses and therefore should look for another job.

I would rather have a President that micromanages as they are detail oriented instead of leaving things in a gray area where one has to assume.

Byrdie, I think the term, "micro managing" has negative connotations 9 times out of 10....

 

[Reba]

Plus what is wrong with micro-management? An individual who micromanages obviously knows the company, inside-out. The individual is being detailed oriented.

The people who complain about being micromanage obviously have trouble following orders from their bosses and therefore should look for another job.

I would rather have a President that micromanages as they are detail oriented instead of leaving things in a gray area where one has to assume.

A person who micro manages does not necessarily know the business inside out. It just means the manager doesn't have faith in the abilities of those below him in the chain of command.

One of the most devestating entries on a corporate or military member's annual fitness report is "needs constant supervision."

Any leader who hasn't selected subordinates who can seamlessly and quickly pick up the reins when necessary isn't doing his job.

A leader who is clear about his goals and his standards won't have any "gray" areas

 

[jillio]

I prefer my President stay focused on my country's business rather than his personal money-making business or any monkey business..

If he can't stay focused on his own, I question how well he can focus on the country's.

 

[jillio]

oh gee I'm sorry that you want the President to care about trivial things that his staff can handle. I'm sure Obama would know how many houses he owns.... judging from his background... of course.. he's certainly not a very busy political man!

President of USA is not a detail-oriented job. It's an intense management-oriented job, silly.

You find it trivial, but I would imagine that the number of people who have lost their only home to foreclosure as a result of the Bush's distrastrous policies and federal spending would find it pertinent, indeed.

Perhaps you don't see it as a "detail oriented" job, but that is just indication of your failure to understand the concept.

 

[Jiro]

You find it trivial, but I would imagine that the number of people who have lost their only home to foreclosure as a result of the Bush's distrastrous policies and federal spending would find it pertinent, indeed.

Perhaps you don't see it as a "detail oriented" job, but that is just indication of your failure to understand the concept.

sorry pal but you shouldn't be picking on only me. Are you saying Reba failed to understand the concept too?

I'd like to see you work at even mid-level corporation or any large organization. then you can come back and tell us of your finding. Micro-managing a large corporation (or a large organization) means you do not have faith in it and... in your shrink term - a control freak. This practice is widely regarded as ineffective in many management courses and books. Please go to your local bookstore and pick out a couple of business books. I recommend The Lazy Millionaire (easy read for beginner). I'd like to suggest a few more famous world-wide top-selling books but I have a feeling you'd disagree with most.

General von Manstein's (Germany army) wisdom -

There are only 4 types of officer: First, there are the lazy, stupid ones. Leave them alone, they do no harm.

Second, there are the hard-working intelligent ones. They make excellent staff officers, ensuring that every detail is properly considered.

Third, there are the hard-working, stupid ones. These people are a menace and must be fired at once.

Finally, there are the intelligent lazy ones. They are suited for the highest office.

Jillio - sounds like you're the 2nd. Same for Obama.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

If he can't stay focused on his own, I question how well he can focus on the country's.

that´s exact what I am going to ask her about.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

. . . and if he did know every detail of his portfolio, people would call him a micromanaging nit picker.

Do you have the problem with that micromangaging nit picker? I don´t but consider him as a caring persident for show his interest on his people´s welfare and country. Pay attention is the mainly important than "don`t know".

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Please go to your local bookstore and pick out a couple of business books. I recommend The Lazy Millionaire (easy read for beginner)

Do you want "The Lazy Millionarie" to be the president of USA?

 

[Jiro]

Do you want "The Lazy Millionarie" to be the president of USA?

lol don't take it too literally. The title can be bit confusing. That's why you should read the book to understand exactly what the author meant about the title. It's an outstanding basic book and a very easy read. I highly recommend it. it can greatly help you to build a discipline with your personal managements (home, social life, managing bills, etc.) or anything in life.

of course... other famous old books are - "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" and "The Intelligent Investor" (hard read). These books say the same - a boss who micromanages everything IS INEFFECTIVE unless you're a masochist (it actually said that!) and you live in office.

 

[Jiro]

Do you have the problem with that micromangaging nit picker? I don´t but consider him as a caring persident for show his interest on his people´s welfare and country. Pay attention is the mainly important than "don`t know".

there's a difference between nit picker leader and a effective leader. Great leader chooses competent, qualified top men who follow and understand the President's agenda and entrust important decisions to them. He will do the follow-up meeting perhaps once a week or so to hear the progress. He will be immediately notified by them or his secretary for any situation that requires his immediate attention. Now that's an effective, smart leader.

Nit-picker leader who handles everything himself WILL NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE IN THIS ENORMOUSLY LARGE-SCALE ORGANIZATION AND HAS BEEN PROVEN INEFFECTIVE BY MANY EXPERTS!!!! If Obama wants to micro-manage it, he should be Secretary of ---- or be the top boss of a certain agency.

Oh BTW - Bill Clinton did not micromanage USA. He was simply bold and influential

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You find it trivial, but I would imagine that the number of people who have lost their only home to foreclosure as a result of the Bush's distrastrous policies and federal spending would find it pertinent, indeed.

Perhaps you don't see it as a "detail oriented" job, but that is just indication of your failure to understand the concept.

It´s scary thought if they decide to trust "The Lazy Millionarie" to be president of USA. :Ohno:

 

[Reba]

It´s scary thought if they decide to trust "The Lazy Millionarie" to be president of USA. :Ohno:

It's the title of a book. It's not a presidential candidate. :roll:

 

[Reba]

Do you have the problem with that micromangaging nit picker? I don´t but consider him as a caring persident for show his interest on his people´s welfare and country. Pay attention is the mainly important than "don`t know".

So do you enjoy your boss standing behind you and checking on every detail of your work every day? How much work does the boss get done if he or she is always checking on what you do? Can your boss take care of the big important plans if he or she is busy checking every piece of work you and your co-workers do? Do you enjoy the feeling that your boss doesn't trust you? Do you think the Commanding Officer of your base asks for a daily report of Liebling's work?

In the management world, being called a micro manager or nit picker is never a positive thing.

 

[jillio]

I'd prefer that my boss be able to micomanage to the extent that he would at least know how many homes he owns.

 

[Jiro]

I'd prefer that my boss be able to micomanage to the extent that he would at least know how many homes he owns.

let's see if he knows it while he runs for for President. We both know it's extremely hectic, tiring, and mentally-straining. I'm sure he knew how many houses he owned before he ran for President.

How about a conspiracy theory for you - Since McCain was one of the few driving forces (as a member of Senator Committee) to investigate insidious matters within Bush Administration and wars.... what's the better way to keep his nose out? yes... yes... the Presidential Race! :-o