Little Bear Wildfire

what ever happen,i not see any news...it sound awful devastating
 
caz12 said:
what ever happen,i not see any news...it sound awful devastating
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We are in a remote area of New Mexico. Only 8,000 people in the area so we are not real important nationally.
 
you say that tx but as they say butterfly flutters wings in australia it effects everywhere else.so fire that bad killing that much wild life effects me as we all own wildlife and on earth to keep it well. cos i dont live near you your widlife is mine as wildlife here is yours we all responsible for the world and what lves in it even if you live somewhere no one heard of
 
caz12 said:
you say that tx but as they say butterfly flutters wings in australia it effects everywhere else.so fire that bad killing that much wild life effects me as we all own wildlife and on earth to keep it well. cos i dont live near you your widlife is mine as wildlife here is yours we all responsible for the world and what lves in it even if you live somewhere no one heard of
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I agree....simply stating why it hasn't been reported on much.
 
Well, the BAER (Burned Area Emergency Response) team with their team of specialists are now getting their work done and assess what can be mitigated. Monsoon season is fast approaching coming this July. The fire is only the beginning. Next will be, highly likely, the damaging debris flows. And most likely that some homes and properties will get damaged (or totaled) along creeks and rivers.
 
kokonut said:
Well, the BAER (Burned Area Emergency Response) team with their team of specialists are now getting their work done and assess what can be mitigated. Monsoon season is fast approaching coming this July. The fire is only the beginning. Next will be, highly likely, the damaging debris flows. And most likely that some homes and properties will get damaged (or totaled) along creeks and rivers.
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The assessment I heard yesterday was we are looking at 5 times the flood damage that was experienced in 2008. Waiting for the official posts in town tonight but the rumor is the lightning last night ignited a new area and today's rains missed the fire but hit town. The water is already under a boil advisory and you can't really shower in it either. And like you said, this is just the beginning.
 
TXgolfer said:
The assessment I heard yesterday was we are looking at 5 times the flood damage that was experienced in 2008. Waiting for the official posts in town tonight but the rumor is the lightning last night ignited a new area and today's rains missed the fire but hit town. The water is already under a boil advisory and you can't really shower in it either. And like you said, this is just the beginning.
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When it comes to flooding (actually it becomes a debris flow) the volume of flow (CFS) can go anywhere from a few factors higher to an order of magnitude higher. That is dependent on the intensity of the rainfall and the duration. It's better to have several short duration (under 30 minutes) low intensity rainfall than a downpour. I suspect they'll have 2 or 3 portable RAW stations (Remote Automated Weather Stations) in key areas of the upper watersheds as an early warning system. You're talking about the upper watersheds reaching up to 12,000 feet (Sierra Blanca) where orographic effects will be most pronounced at those elevations (9,000 to 12,000 feet). This is serious, scary shit. I would just leave my home if it's near a creek or river whose upper part of the watershed has been heavily burned. I fear it will just be catastrophic. Evacuation plans need to be in placed and enforced right now. All it takes is an 3/10 inch of rain in 20 minutes to cause havoc. Imagine 1/2 inch or 3/4 of rain in 30 minutes or one hour. Man, I'd simply move out of my house and save what I can and put them in a nearby storage rental and just live in a hotel for the next 3 or 4 months.
 
kokonut said:
When it comes to flooding (actually it becomes a debris flow) the volume of flow (CFS) can go anywhere from a few factors higher to an order of magnitude higher. That is dependent on the intensity of the rainfall and the duration. It's better to have several short duration (under 30 minutes) low intensity rainfall than a downpour. I suspect they'll have 2 or 3 portable RAW stations (Remote Automated Weather Stations) in key areas of the upper watersheds as an early warning system. You're talking about the upper watersheds reaching up to 12,000 feet (Sierra Blanca) where orographic effects will be most pronounced at those elevations (9,000 to 12,000 feet). This is serious, scary shit. I would just leave my home if it's near a creek or river whose upper part of the watershed has been heavily burned. I fear it will just be catastrophic. Evacuation plans need to be in placed and enforced right now. All it takes is an 3/10 inch of rain in 20 minutes to cause havoc. Imagine 1/2 inch or 3/4 of rain in 30 minutes or one hour. Man, I'd simply move out of my house and save what I can and put them in a nearby storage rental and just live in a hotel for the next 3 or 4 months.
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Most of my stuff is in storage or out of town being cleaned now. I had quite a bit of smoke damage. I am staying here though....but at a hotel. The whole town will need interior painting when this is all done. We have some cement barriers coming in with hopes of diverting flow...I don't think there is a chance that will work honestly. We have been doing some dozer and hand work too.
 
TXgolfer said:
Most of my stuff is in storage or out of town being cleaned now. I had quite a bit of smoke damage. I am staying here though....but at a hotel. The whole town will need interior painting when this is all done. We have some cement barriers coming in with hopes of diverting flow...I don't think there is a chance that will work honestly. We have been doing some dozer and hand work too.
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Perhaps but that's dependent on the intensity and duration of a rainfall event. Just as well those concrete barriers (actually they're called Jersey barriers) can help if they are placed strategically in the right place but then again if a debris flow is big enough that barrier will simply become a part of the flow.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVkVsKsUPOY]USGS and California Wildfires: Post Fire Debris Flow (part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_7yMOPc3a8]USGS and California Wildfires: Post Fire Debris Flow (part 2 - YouTube[/ame]

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