Key liberal congressman flips to 'yes' on health care vote

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Foxrac said:
Are you sure? You would never know if you lose a lot of money or have serious health problem that cost more than your savings so you could left as no money left to pay medical expenses in full.

I had seen many uninsured patients are irresponsible or couldn't afford to get insurance so hospital could lose the money or private hospital would have close the ER to prevent any uninsured patients goes in.

There's around 50 million Americans don't have insurance so we need help them to covered without any fear about hospital would lose the money and we could get less doctors in near future.
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Yeah I am sure I made the right choice.

The number is 30 million not 50
 
Foxrac said:
Yup, or will suspend your driver license, depends on states.

If you are uninsured and you hit someone's car so it would be your liability responsible and someone would have sue you.

For reject to have health insurance so you would face fine but for jail, I doubtfully but probably if you refuse to pay fine or have find way to get exempt from fine.
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They have "jail time" written in it.
 
Foxrac said:
Are you sure? You would never know if you lose a lot of money or have serious health problem that cost more than your savings so you could left as no money left to pay medical expenses in full.

I had seen many uninsured patients are irresponsible or couldn't afford to get insurance so hospital could lose the money or private hospital would have close the ER to prevent any uninsured patients goes in.

There's around 50 million Americans don't have insurance so we need help them to covered without any fear about hospital would lose the money and we could get less doctors in near future.
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There will be fewer Drs if this bill passes.
 
TXgolfer said:
Yeah I am sure I made the right choice.

The number is 30 million not 50
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Incorrect, there is 45.7 millions are uninsured.
The Census Bureau estimates that 45.7 million lacked health insurance at any given time in 2007. But fewer lacked coverage for the full year, and more did without for one or more months during the year. All three numbers are likely to be higher for 2008 due to massive job losses.
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It will getting higher now because increase of unemployed.
The ‘Real’ Uninsured | FactCheck.org
 
TXgolfer said:
There will be fewer Drs if this bill passes.
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I don't think so, when many people are insured so doctors would get more money, that what I believe about government-run is best solution for us.
 
Foxrac said:
Incorrect, there is 45.7 millions are uninsured.


It will getting higher now because increase of unemployed.
The ‘Real’ Uninsured | FactCheck.org
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You may want to let Obama know.....He is saying 30....The 40+ fiqure was popular during the election.....They have come off of that number since then. Mostly because the first number included illegal immigrants and those who have medicare

Just curious did you read your citation? FactCheck lays this all out
 
TXgolfer said:
You may want to let Obama know.....He is saying 30....The 40+ fiqure was popular during the election.....They have come off of that number since then. Mostly because the first number included illegal immigrants and those who have medicare
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Well, it is assumption or estimate from 30 millions to 50 millions, whatever you said numbers are still too higher and I believe that uninsured would be double in next 10 years, just my prediction because I think about future seems depression, especially on economy, IMO.
 
kokonut said:
More money?

A little chuckle there.
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Sure, either of you don't want health care reform so that's fine with me and I'm expected that health care in US would become worsen and more depression, such as closure of hospitals (either public or private), closure of emergency room in private hospital, declining of doctors, other factors as uninsured are continue to rise.

That's fine with me, that's your consequence and thank you for me to visit ER and being uninsured in future if there is lacks of government help.
 
My advice to Foxrac is to stop with the mind-reading games of yours. Secondly, we don't have the money to support this liberals' wet dreams of theirs.
 
TXgolfer said:
You think Drs will make more?

Here is what Obama's cousin (a Dr) thinks

WOLF: Obama family health care fracas - Washington Times
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I read article that you posted and sounds like anti-health care reform; I would like to ask question about how does they know that health care reform is bad since we don't have kicks in yet. I believe that health care reform would have greater benefits and expect that would works in way; it is just give democrats an chance to pass the health care reform and if it don't work out so it would be epic fail.

In UK, there's 4 NHS in divided, England, Scotland, Wales and North Ireland, each of them has different reliable of treatment like someone say NHS in England is nightmare since NHS in Scotland is good. Have a good treatment in public health care would depends on how government is funded them.
 
kokonut said:
My advice to Foxrac is to stop with the mind-reading games of yours. Secondly, we don't have the money to support this liberals' wet dreams of theirs.
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No, it isn't games but there is affect if we don't fix our existing health care at this time, same as I listed about factor and private insurance has went up, one went increased by 39% in California. I'm just concern about health care in US and it could going bad in future.

Well, you have government that spending too much in Iraq and Afghan war, that why not enough money. :roll:
 
kokonut said:
Spending too much money? You ain't seen nothing yet. Or better, consider how much the Obamesiah has spent so far by running up $2 trillion in debt in 421 days

National Debt Up $2 Trillion on Obama's Watch - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Wait til the healthcare kicks in.
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Obama is just inherited with high deficit because of bank bailout in previous admin, GWB Admin, of course and economy stimulus as well but for economy stimulus will be paid off when economy recover in completely, probably in few years.

That why I don't believe any conservative thing, including you. ;)
 
Foxrac said:
Obama is just inherited with high deficit because of bank bailout in previous admin, GWB Admin, of course and economy stimulus as well but for economy stimulus will be paid off when economy recover in completely, probably in few years.

That why I don't believe any conservative thing, including you. ;)
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The bailout is being paid back.....Obama himself admits it is nearly paid off.

No one is paying back stimulus funds.....they were given as grants
 
TXgolfer said:
The bailout is being paid back.....Obama himself admits it is nearly paid off.

No one is paying back stimulus funds.....they were given as grants
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I believe that budget deficit would decrease in few years after economy recover in completely and just give more time. During Great Depression and economy isn't recover in completely until around early 1950's after went down in late 1920's.

Capitalism is supposed to be fragile and don't mess with them or economy will crash, that's my views and some of capitalism need regulation as well.
 
no. no. no.
 
As long as they don't add to the bill to punish anyone opting out on health care as some has been proposing.

Not everyone can afford it.

Yiz
 
Foxrac said:
Obama is just inherited with high deficit because of bank bailout in previous admin, GWB Admin, of course and economy stimulus as well but for economy stimulus will be paid off when economy recover in completely, probably in few years.
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I suggest you take the time to read up on these things. We're paying some $350 billion dollars a year on interest alone for borrowing money each year, including Obama. The Obama administration continues to borrow money at a record pace and spending money at a record pace. We don't have the money to support the increasing and expanding govt programs such as the health care bill (if passed) which won't kick in until 4 years later. All these things will come to screeching halt if we don't stop with the reckless spending over something we don't have. It's like maxing out on 10 different credit cards in order to pay the bills of previous credit cards already maxed out. It's a vicious cycle that will do nobody no good. What good is it for these programs if we go bankrupt or don't have the money in the first place?
 
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