Judge: Terrorist can sue over torture memos

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Judge: Terrorist can sue over torture memos
First time a government lawyer has been held potentially liable for abuse



SACRAMENTO, Calif. - A convicted terrorist can sue a former Bush administration lawyer for drafting the legal theories that led to his alleged torture, ruled a federal judge who said he was trying to balance a clash between war and the defense of personal freedoms.

The order by U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White of San Francisco is the first time a government lawyer has been held potentially liable for the abuse of detainees.

White refused to dismiss Jose Padilla's lawsuit against former senior Justice Department official John Yoo on Friday. Yoo wrote memos on interrogation, detention and presidential powers for the department's Office of Legal Counsel from 2001 to 2003.

Padilla, 38, is serving a 17-year sentence on terror charges. He claims he was tortured while being held nearly four years as a suspected terrorist.

White ruled Padilla may be able to prove that Yoo's memos "set in motion a series of events that resulted in the deprivation of Padilla's constitutional rights."

"Like any other government official, government lawyers are responsible for the foreseeable consequences of their conduct," wrote White, a Bush appointee.

Yoo did not return telephone and e-mail messages Saturday.

'Using tactics of terror'
White ruled that Yoo, now a University of California at Berkeley law professor, went beyond the normal role of an attorney when he helped write the Bush administration's detention and torture policies, then drafted legal opinions to justify those policies.

Yoo's recently released 2001 memo advised that the military could use "any means necessary" to hold terror suspects. A 2002 memo to then-White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales advised that treatment of suspected terrorists was torture only if it caused pain levels equivalent to "organ failure, impairment of bodily function or even death." Yoo also advised that the president might have the constitutional power to allow torturing enemy combatants.

"The issues raised by this case embody that ... tension — between the requirements of war and the defense of the very freedoms that war seeks to protect," White wrote in his 42-page decision. "This lawsuit poses the question addressed by our founding fathers about how to strike the proper balance of fighting a war against terror, at home and abroad, and fighting a war using tactics of terror."

The ruling rejected the government's arguments that the courts are barred from examining top-level administration decisions in wartime, or that airing "allegations of unconstitutional treatment of an American citizen on American soil" would damage national security or foreign relations.


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The Justice Department is representing Yoo and has argued for dismissing the lawsuit. The department has not said if it will appeal White's ruling. The department's on-duty spokesman, Dean Boyd, did not return a telephone message Saturday.

"It's a really a significant victory for accountability and our constitutional system of checks and balances," said Tahlia Townsend, an attorney with the Lowenstein International Human Rights Clinic at Yale Law School who represented Padilla.

White ruled that "the treatment we allege does violate the Constitution and John Yoo should have known that," Townsend said Saturday. "This is the first time there's been this sort of ruling."

Enemy combatant
Padilla is an American citizen who was arrested in Chicago in 2002 and accused of conspiring with al-Qaida to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb."

He was held in a Navy brig in Charleston, S.C., for three years and eight months as an enemy combatant. Padilla's lawsuit alleges Yoo personally approved his time and treatment in the brig.

His lawsuit alleges he was illegally detained and was subjected to sleep deprivation, temperature extremes, painful stress positions, and extended periods of bright lights and total darkness. Padilla also alleges he endured threats that he would be killed, that his family would be harmed, and that he would be transferred to another country to be tortured.

He eventually was charged in an unrelated conspiracy to funnel money and supplies to Islamic extremist groups. Padilla was convicted in 2007 in Miami federal court, and is appealing.

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Terrorist can sue over torture memos - Terrorism- msnbc.com
 
Fresh torture claims against CIA


Accused al-Qaeda mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has said he was tortured into lying while in CIA custody, newly-released documents show.

The Guantanamo Bay detainee said that US interrogators had forced him to "make up stories", although he admitted to being behind nearly 30 terror plots.

The latest transcripts were released by the CIA as part of a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

Meanwhile, Italy has agreed to take three Guantanamo Bay detainees.

US President Barack Obama announced the agreement after talks at the White House with Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.

Last month, Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini revealed Italy was considering a US request to take two Tunisian prisoners from the detention centre in Cuba.

'Brutal torture'

The ACLU said that the newly released government transcripts "provide further evidence of brutal torture" by the CIA.

Most of the new material centres on claims of abuse by Guantanamo inmates while being held in CIA custody.

Detainee Abu Zubaydah said that "after months of suffering and torture, physically and mentally, they did not care about my injuries".

"Doctors told me that I nearly died four times," he said.

Another detainee, Abd al-Rahim Hussein Mohammed al-Nashiri, complained that interrogators used to "drown me in water", in an apparent reference to the interrogation technique known as waterboarding.

The ACLU - which is seeking uncensored transcripts of the US government's terror detainee programmes - said the latest documents were "still heavily blacked out" by the CIA.

It said in previously released documents the CIA had removed virtually all references to the abuse of prisoners in custody.

"There is no legitimate basis for the [US President] Obama administration's continued refusal to disclose allegations of detainee abuse, and we will return to court to seek the full release of these documents," ACLU attorney Ben Wizner said.

BBC NEWS | Americas | Fresh torture claims against CIA
 
Transcript: Terrorist says he lied after torture
U.S. government releases new details of Guantanamo Bay hearings


WASHINGTON - Accused al-Qaida mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed complained that interrogators tortured lies out of him, though he proudly took credit for more than two dozen other terror plots, according to sections of government transcripts released Monday.

"I make up stories," Mohammed said at one point in his 2007 hearing at Guantanamo Bay.

In broken English, he described an interrogation in which he was asked the location of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.

"Where is he? I don't know," Mohammed said. "Then he torture me. Then I said, 'Yes, he is in this area or this is al-Qaida which I don't him.' I said no, they torture me."

Yet at the same military tribunal hearing, Mohammed ticked off a list of 29 terror plots in which he took part.

ACLU lawsuit
The transcripts were released as part of a lawsuit in which the American Civil Liberties Union is seeking documents and details of the government's terror detainee programs.

Previous accounts of the military tribunal hearings had been made public, but the Obama administration went back and reviewed the still-secret sections and determined that more could be released.

ACLU lawyer Ben Wizner called on the Obama administration to disclose more details, saying the new materials "provide further evidence of brutal torture and abuse in the CIA's interrogation program and demonstrate beyond doubt that this information has been suppressed solely to avoid embarrassment and growing demands for accountability."

George Little, the CIA spokesman, took issue with Wizner's characterization of the interrogation practices.

"The CIA plainly has a very different take on its past interrogation practices what they were and what they weren't and on the need to protect properly classified national security information."

Justice Department spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler said the new materials were released voluntarily by the government, which is keeping other portions secret to protect intelligence-gathering sources and methods.

Claims of abuse
Most of the new material centers around the detainees' claims of abuse during interrogations while being held overseas in CIA custody.

One detainee, Abu Zubaydah, told the tribunal that after months "of suffering and torture, physically and mentally, they did not care about my injuries."

Zubaydah was the first detainee subjected to Bush administration-approved harsh interrogation techniques, which included a simulated form of drowning known as waterboarding, slamming the suspect into walls and prolonged period of nudity.

Zubaydah claimed in the hearing that he "nearly died four times."

"After a few months went by, during which I almost lost my mind and my life, they made sure I didn't die," Zubaydah said in his statement to the tribunal.

He claimed that after many months of such treatment, authorities concluded he was not the No. 3 person in al-Qaida as they had long believed.

Transcript: Terrorist lied after torture - Guantanamo- msnbc.com




I´m not surprised...
 
"Accused al-Qaida mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed complained that interrogators tortured lies out of him, though he proudly took credit for more than two dozen other terror plots, according to sections of government transcripts released Monday.

"I make up stories," Mohammed said at one point in his 2007 hearing at Guantanamo Bay."

So how does anyone know when this guy is telling the truth? He could be lying again now.
 
"Another detainee, Abd al-Rahim Hussein Mohammed al-Nashiri, complained that interrogators used to "drown me in water", in an apparent reference to the interrogation technique known as waterboarding."

Obviously he didn't really drown or he would be dead.

American pilots and special military operations team members also undergo waterboarding as part of their training.
 
In America, anyone can file suit about just about anything. Winning a suit is another matter. Just because someone files a suit doesn't mean it is justified.
 
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