Jobs That Americans Won't Do.....

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With fewer jobs for Americans these days, are there fewer jobs that Americans won't do?

The answer will influence whether Congress decides to grant amnesty to some 11 million illegal immigrants in the US, perhaps by next year.

Most illegal workers in the US are Mexicans who mow lawns, clean motel sheets, butcher hogs, pick strawberries, and otherwise toil away at tasks that, as George W. Bush once said, "Americans won't do." And they often are paid less than the minimum wage.

A widely held assumption in Washington's debate about immigration is that native-born Americans avoid menial and dirty work. Laid-off autoworkers wouldn't really wash dishes at a Denny's or milk cows on a dairy farm, would they? Such a notion has long helped justify a flow of foreign workers into the US – or possibly an amnesty for those hiding from the law.

Recent recessions have been short enough that jobless Americans who rely on government benefits waited for a "good job" to return. But this "Great Recession" has been long and deep. The unemployment rate has doubled from 4.7 to 9.4 percent, and it may keep rising into next year. Many layoffs appear permanent as whole industries have collapsed and new fields, such as clean energy, are slow to emerge. The percentage of Americans "mal-employed" – working below their skill or education – is higher than in recent recessions.

With people desperate for income, downward mobility may be on the way up. News reports show long lines of applicants for a janitor's job or for work at a factory after a federal raid clears out the illegal workers.

Maybe it's a myth that Americans won't take certain jobs. In fact, a study by the Center for Immigration Studies used 2005-07 data to look at 465 occupations. Only four had a majority of immigrants in them: plasterers and stucco masons, agricultural graders and sorters, personal appliance workers, and tailors and dressmakers.

In every other occupation, such as janitors, maids, and groundskeepers, a large majority were filled by native-born Americans. The report's conclusion: "The often-made argument that immigrants only take jobs Americans don't want is simply wrong."

The US job market is too dynamic to be easily segmented. Americans move too often for new jobs – more than a third live outside the state in which they were born. This recession can help bust the myth that native-born workers are too snooty to get their boots dirty in farm fields and back shops.

Maybe then a key plank for an amnesty will be removed.

'Jobs that Americans won't do' - Yahoo! News
 
Amnesty shouldn't be done. You do not reward people for breaking the law. Of all the immigrants that entered the U.S. legally, followed the law, paid their taxes, and eventually became a U.S. citizen. You work your way to become an American citizen by earning it the old fashioned way....not amnesty. Sorry. Not gonna fly with me.
 
Imagine all the howls of protest if chicken prices rise by 10¢ a pound, because they had to pay minimum wages to American citizens to take these jobs. That is the reason those jobs go to illegals; because the employer wants to pay illegal wages.
 
Imagine all the howls of protest if chicken prices rise by 10¢ a pound, because they had to pay minimum wages to American citizens to take these jobs. That is the reason those jobs go to illegals; because the employer wants to pay illegal wages.
The Perdue chicken processors in South Carolina employ local Americans, including deaf people. I don't know how much they pay their employees but they provide generous family leave time and medical benefits to workers who process the chickens.

Perdue is one of only a few businesses in the country – to offer associates and their dependents access to low-cost primary care through fully equipped onsite Wellness Centers staffed by health care providers from the local community. The Wellness Centers are part of the company's comprehensive benefits program, which includes medical, dental, vision and health benefits; life and disability insurance; and a 401(k) savings plan with company-funded matching contributions.

Our company-wide Perdue Health Improvement Program (HIP) is helping our associates get "HIP" by eliminating lifestyle risk factors and managing controllable diseases, and by creating an environment of health in the workplace. This innovative program received national recognition as a C. Everett Koop Health Award winner and was honored by the U.S. Depratment of Health and Human Services in with a Secretary's Innovation in Presentation Award.
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The Perdue chicken processors in South Carolina employ local Americans, including deaf people. I don't know how much they pay their employees but they provide generous family leave time and medical benefits to workers who process the chickens.


Our Employees
Yes, they are a good company to work for. In my location, there are quite a few companies that hire illegals for chicken processing, along with other products. Hormel has not done this, and they are a good place to work. The larger companies seem to be less inclined to hire illegals. Not sure what these smaller, illegal operations are producing from the chicken. Might be anything....
 
It's up to employers who would hire illegal immigrants and I wouldn't want work in place if make less than $8 per hour.
 
I've never liked the implication that americans won't do certain jobs. They are not lazy...just not gonna do it for peanuts. Employers can pay small wages.
Migrant farm laborers and food processing workers help keep food prices down. Jobs outside of that sector should be for americans. Pay decent wages. Fat cats can pay it.
 
$8 an hour for illegals/aliens stopoverers is like $50 an hour for us, like their costs of living in homeland is CHEAP compared , no then again where the hell do they live? ah , i recall Jiro comments on mexicans squashing up as many as 10 or 12 in a 3 brm apartment - cheaters, but then again they are eligable (rightly so) for medical treatment in US (and too expensive for them)....

my idea of solution to the lack of work for americans (and elsewhere especially the developed world) is to abolish outsourcing and fuck corporates greed, its time for them to start looking after people who work for them as does who represents their country. blah
 
my idea of solution to the lack of work for americans (and elsewhere especially the developed world) is to abolish outsourcing and fuck corporates greed, its time for them to start looking after people who work for them as does who represents their country. blah

I don't disagree with outsourcing if it's cheaper to assemble products (for example cars in Canada.) However I do disagree with wage slavery. Stop outsourcing to countries like Bangladesh just because people are willing to work for $2 a day.

Corporates should abide by their state's minimum wage laws, if it is lower than the corporates' state or province, if they choose to outsource.
 
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