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This guy had warrants for his arrest last year for not showing up court.. He also was told on about a month ago that he was one of the guys that made Crystal Meth lab at a hotel where there was a drug bust. He ran from the police and hid for a month. This morning he got beatened with a 20 pound hammer that put a hole between his eyes and 32 stitches all over his head.. he was left for dead. Someone found him and tried to call 911. He told the person not to call 911. so he gave the number to call his cousin.. so the person calls his cousin and tells her what happened. the person said he was losing alot of blood and going in and out of consciousness. so 15 minutes passed, his pulse was getting slower.. so his cousin decided to call the ambulance. EMT worked with him and took him to the hospital. As soon as they got his name.. they called the cops. The cops come and waited for 8 hours for him to get all cleaned up. The dr said that he has a concusion and can barely walk, his face was soo swollen and he couldn't see either. The cops said that's too bad, he's going to jail. His family went into a rage saying he needed to be admitted to the hospital. The cops said there is an infirmary at the jail house. So the cops took him to jail without bond.

His family don't know how he's doing, he's not able to talk on the phone cuz he's in so much pain.

What do you think of all this? Is it normal to treat a patient like that? Did the cops make the wrong move by taking him to jail when he's in a bad shape? Or did the cops have a right to drag him like that to jail? There's also someone in jail that wants him dead too.



The reason he got beatened was because he owed that man money.

I'd like to know what you guys think..

I know Taylor can probably answer that for me... It would be great to know what is right and wrong.
 
My opinion is that they should have left him in the hospital where he can receive a more proper care. A policeman could stand by his room door to make sure he doesn't escape. After he is all better and discharged from the hospital then the police can take him to the jail.
 
A warrant means he can't be let go once the police find him. It is like a piece of authorized paper that says " We take prisoners and we let nobody go !!!! "

I agree there are times when medical attention is much more important than jail. They can have police guards at the hospital until he gets better then goes to jail but as for him owning money and ending up in jail, he will have to fight for his life hand to hand combat, to survive and see another day of sunlight.

Taylor might be able to answer your question much better than I can.
 
ButterflyGirl said:
My opinion is that they should have left him in the hospital where he can receive a more proper care. A policeman could stand by his room door to make sure he doesn't escape. After he is all better and discharged from the hospital then the police can take him to the jail.
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That's what I was thinking.. but it didn't happen that way. I wondered if there was any way they can get him back to the hospital.... He's still in alot of pain and not walking.
 
Damn! If he require medical assistance, Then he should be in the hospital. The police could stood by the door make sure he doesn't leave the hospital, because he needs full evacuation before he can leave the hospital. I've seen that happened before. Why can't they do that with this guy? If something bad happened to this guy while in jail, Families are gotta be seeking justice, against the police department. :whistle:
 
ButterflyGirl said:
My opinion is that they should have left him in the hospital where he can receive a more proper care. A policeman could stand by his room door to make sure he doesn't escape. After he is all better and discharged from the hospital then the police can take him to the jail.
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I agreed with ya :) the policeman should have be in hopstial and stand in the room to make sure till he get better then send it to jail
 
Heath said:
A warrant means he can't be let go once the police find him. It is like a piece of paper that says " We take prisoners and we let nobody go !!!! "

I agree there are times when medical attention is much more important than jail. They can have police guards at the hospital until he gets better then goes to jail but as for him owning money and ending up in jail, he will have to fight for his life hand to hand combat, to survive and see another day of sunlight.

Taylor might be able to answer your question much better than I can.
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I understand that and I truely believe he need to be in jail for what he did but wait at least til he gets better??? I'm pretty offended by what happened.. in that kind of situation, that is.
 
Cheri said:
Damn! If he require medical assistance, Then he should be in the hospital. The police could stood by the door make sure he doesn't leave the hospital, because he needs full evacuation before he can leave the hospital. I've seen that happened before. Why can't they do that with this guy? If something bad happened to this guy while in jail, Families are gotta be seeking justice, against the police department. :whistle:
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or is it because he doesn't have medical insurance? but by law, they have to be treated as equal regardless they have ins. or not.

If something happens to him in jail.. yes.. there's gonna be some fighting with the family, hospital, police, and prison. Like I said recently.. there's someone in jail that wants him dead.
 
ButterflyGirl said:
My opinion is that they should have left him in the hospital where he can receive a more proper care. A policeman could stand by his room door to make sure he doesn't escape. After he is all better and discharged from the hospital then the police can take him to the jail.
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I agree and second that!
 
Cheri said:
Damn! If he require medical assistance, Then he should be in the hospital. The police could stood by the door make sure he doesn't leave the hospital, because he needs full evacuation before he can leave the hospital. I've seen that happened before. Why can't they do that with this guy? If something bad happened to this guy while in jail, Families are gotta be seeking justice, against the police department. :whistle:
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I agree with you hon...:whistle:
 
RebelGirl said:
or is it because he doesn't have medical insurance? but by law, they have to be treated as equal regardless they have ins. or not.
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Doesn't matter if he has no insurance coverage, You're correct by law no allowing to denied any person who seeks for medical attention, and patients should be able to receive quality care. Most hospital billed them by mail if they don't have no insurance coverage. :)
 
Cheri said:
Doesn't matter if he has no insurance coverage, You're correct by law no allowing to denied any person who seeks for medical attention, and patients should be able to receive quality care. Most hospital billed them by mail if they don't have no insurance coverage. :)
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Right...

*thinking*


It still bothers me... argh!
 
There are usually guidelines for releasing a patient into police custody. If they are stable enough to be transported to the jail infirmary or secured ward at another hospital, it's unpleasant, but it's probably entirely legal. His family has a good case for cruel and unusual punishment..especially if he hasn't been convicted of any crime yet.
 
What state did it happen ?

I don't think it is right for the police to drag him in jail without medical attention that he needs. I think it is totally wrong.

It's too bad that he deserves this because, of what happened in the first place. There's always " what goes around comes around " via " karma ". That's his consequence to pay.
 
MorriganTait said:
There are usually guidelines for releasing a patient into police custody. If they are stable enough to be transported to the jail infirmary or secured ward at another hospital, it's unpleasant, but it's probably entirely legal. His family has a good case for cruel and unusual punishment..especially if he hasn't been convicted of any crime yet.
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The only thing I know is he had a warrant for his arrest and they were looking for him when he ran from the law a month ago.
 
CyberRed said:
What state did it happen ?

I don't think it is right for the police to drag him in jail without medical attention that he needs. I think it is totally wrong.

It's too bad that he deserves this because, of what happened in the first place. There's always " what goes around comes around " via " karma ". That's his consequence to pay.
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Alabama

I know.. that's why I was asking AD members what they were thinking and give me their own opinions. I'm stunned about what happened but not sure if it was legal to do that.
 
MorriganTait is correct (at least from the way I'm reading it). They did not refuse him medical treatment as he did go to the hospital and the police waited until he was cleaned up and treated. Once stablized and ready to be released, he is turned back over to the police. He is no longer in a life threatening situation, and it would have been the doctor who releases him. In a normal situation (not meaning he is a wanted person), the doctor releases somebody and sends them home for bed rest, etc. In this case, instead of going home to recover, he will be getting that bed rest in the jail.
If he was not ready to be released from the hospital, then the police would not have taken him out....a doctor has to release him. The police won't take him from the hospital to his house and say "We'll pick you up in 4 to 5 days when you are feeling better". If the doctor released him, then the doctors opinion is that he was well enough to leave the hospital.
 
I know with us, anyone injured gets treatment at the hospital and then when the hospital is done, they are turned back over to us. I've spent many 12 hour shifts sitting in a hospital room with a prisoner waiting for them to be released. Once the doctor says they can go, we take them to jail. If we do not have charges on them, then we release them to the hospital and when the hospital is done with them, they are free to go. If they have a warrant or involved in a crime, then we stay with them until told otherwise.

It sounds to me from your story that he did receive medical treatment but the family feels he needs more. That decision is not up to the family..and it is not up to the police...it is strictly up to the doctors.
 
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I think if he owes money from those people then he should be in solitary confinement so he does not have to fight so many bad guys hand to hand combat in jail. He just got out of medical treatment. What do you think Taylor ?
 
*ahems* That's so bullshit.

That man should be stay in the hosptial until doctor gives the policeman approve to taking him to the jail. Policeman just could be there with him to making sure that he cant run away and such like that.

Because my ex boyfriend did get arrest warrant once, he got into fight with a guy and got his hand cut soo badly that would need stiches, that guy and my ex took to the hsotpail, doctor told the policemen that they cannot take my ex boyfriend because they had to make sure that everything is ok with him, it took doctors around 4 hours and finally gave the policemen approved to take my ex to in the jail. Which it is the laws in Michigan that I knew so far.
 
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