Jack Kevorkian a.k.a Dr Death has died.

KristinaB said:
My mother requested having a DNR since she has a terminal illness that is considered a communicable disease. She has a blood borne infection. She got Hep C through a transfusion done at a hospital after getting a massive infection due to hospital error. The CDC was called out in her case. She was given 7 units of blood. Seems that at least 1 of them had Hep C. She now has cirrhosis of the liver. Any time we have an open sore or anything, we have to double bag it and drop it off at the hospital or doctor's office. She's tired of the extra work for me. She has said that if it's anything that does not involve her liver or respiratory system, then we can take care of it, but once it moves to the respiratory system of liver, then just to let her go. I don't see it as assisted suicide. It's nature taking it's course. I do know that others feel differently about that. Heck, my own brothers do and they are totally against my mother's wishes. But then, the younger of my brothers was also the one who told her when my father died, "Well mom, now that dad's dead, we need to put you into a nursing home so we kids can have our freedom." After mom slapped him, I kicked him real hard and punched and broke his jaw. Mom was 52 when he died. That is not old. Mom feels that if we did not have the DNR, then too much would be done and she would be in more pain and be more and more dependent on me for her care.
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If it comes to that, I hope your mother will go peacefully and with little pain. :hug:
 
yizuman said:
He was alot more than just helping people kill themselves/ he aided in the murder by providing materials that enabled them to kill themselves. He's an enabler. Pure and simple.

So as you can see some glimpse of the mind of JK based from his paintings, it clearly shows his obsession with death and the reason why he used "assistant suicide" to mask his obsession because he wanted to watch people die up close and personal.

He's pretty demented.....

Yiz
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He might be obsessed with death but not in the way you are thinking. His parents were Armenian immigrants and they survived the 1915 - 1923 Armenian Massacre where the Turks killed Christians. You see some of the paintings about the Holocaust which was not so long after the Armenian Massacre.

Armenian National Institute
 
I did not see death in those photos. I saw suffering, pain, and agony.
 
In an event of a terminal illness or being in a vegative state. I would want someone to assist me to the end of life. I would want my trip to end with out the pain. We do it all the time for animals.. why not do it for humans?
 
jillio said:
Yeah, and I really don't think that Yiz is qualifed to interpret the mindset behind the paintings.:roll:
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None of us are; except for, perhaps, yourself. I admit to them being a bit macabre for my liking, but as for any interpretation on them; none of us are qualified to make a judgement on his mindset at the time the paintings were done.
 
Babyblue said:
In an event of a terminal illness or being in a vegative state. I would want someone to assist me to the end of life. I would want my trip to end with out the pain. We do it all the time for animals.. why not do it for humans?
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It is being done all over the country. Most of the time, it's done quietly and no one knows about it. That's the intention of hospice. People at the end of their life can receive care and comfort, and have a peaceful end to their suffering.
 
jillio said:
He was force fed.
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Beach girl said:
You sure about that? Michigan changed its law regarding force-feeding on the very day he was convicted. News stories at the time all said that he threatened to starve himself, and he "knew" he would be force-fed. But when the time came, Michigan's law no longer allowed force-feeding. Prisoners who refused food and drink for 72 hours had to sign a waiver that said they knew what they were doing. But they would not be force-fed.

Kevorkian Won't Be Force-Fed - CBS News
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Goes to show that research pays off....

Yiz
 
Buffalo said:
He might be obsessed with death but not in the way you are thinking. His parents were Armenian immigrants and they survived the 1915 - 1923 Armenian Massacre where the Turks killed Christians. You see some of the paintings about the Holocaust which was not so long after the Armenian Massacre.

Armenian National Institute
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Yes I read that and JK also mentioned on the fact that he hears about those stories as a child. Now think about that, how hearing these stories, on top of the fact he reads about the Holocaust years later. How this sort of thing effected his life and his way of thinking.

His painting speaks volumes on that.

Here's something else....

Opinions on capital punishment, executions and med... [Med Law. 1985] - PubMed result (scroll down)

Capital punishment and organ retrieval. [CMAJ. 1987] - PubMed result

As it stands, on capital punishment, the ruling on harvesting organs from inmates who have been executed cannot be harvested. They policy is that they wait for a certain number of hours before releasing the body to the funeral director for transport to the funeral home. Reason for that, if an organ isn't harvest within a certain amount of time, the organ no longer becomes viable for transplant. Same reason to prevent any attempts to revive the inmate after execution.

JK wants the ban on harvesting to be lifted. No writings mentioned that JK is against the death penalty. Interesting.....

Let's not forget that JK murdered 130 people in his so called "assistant suicide", that's right, 130 people. If that number doesn't bother you, it should.

Jacob "Jack" Kevorkian (play /kɨˈvɔrkiən/;[2] May 26, 1928 – June 3, 2011[3]) was an Armenian American pathologist, assisted suicide activist, painter, composer and instrumentalist. He is best known for publicly championing a terminal patient's right to die via physician-assisted suicide, which earned him the nickname "Dr. Death"; he said he assisted at least 130 patients to that end. He famously said "dying is not a crime".[4]

Jack Kevorkian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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In the 1980s, JK published numerous articles in the obscure German journal Medicine and Law outlining his ideas on euthanasia and ethics. I find that interesting because Germany is well known for their stance on euthanasia, especially during the times of Hitler when he was in power. They made a propaganda film encouraging citizens with varying terminal illnesses as well as physical disabilities to commit suicide.

Works such as Jost's Das Recht auf den Tod (The Right to Death) and Binding and Hoche's Die Freigabe der Vernichtung Lebensunwerten Lebens (The Permission to Destroy Life Unworthy of Life) greatly influenced the German medical profession of the 1920s and 30s. In his book, The Nazi Doctors, historian Robert Lifton describes the latter work as "crucial" in creating acceptance among medical professionals for euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide. Published 13 years before Hitler took power, The Permission to Destroy Life Unworthy of Life proposed that "sterbehilfe," the German word for "dying help," be offered to the "incurably ill" and "lives in a condition of total helplessness, requiring care by another."

Nazi Euthanasia Program
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Of course, they also created "racial laws" as well as "Laws against the disability"....

Das Erbe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As the old saying goes, "Those that forget the past are forever condemned to repeat it."

If we forget what happened in Germany, then we're repeating it now right here not only on American soil, but also abroad outside of German history and we're seeing it grow all over again like it was done in Germany.

Right now, Netherlands has already became the first nation since Nazi Germany to legalize euthanasia in the fall of 2000....

Critics charge the right to die could quickly become "the duty to die," pressuring on the terminally ill to take their own lives when they believe they have become a burden. They say the elderly will be afraid to enter hospitals for fear of being euthanized.

Euthanasia Legalized in The Netherlands — Infoplease.com
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I can't say I blame them...

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
Yes I read that and JK also mentioned on the fact that he hears about those stories as a child. Now think about that, how hearing these stories, on top of the fact he reads about the Holocaust years later. How this sort of thing effected his life and his way of thinking.

His painting speaks volumes on that.

Here's something else....

JK wants the ban on harvesting to be lifted. No writings mentioned that JK is against the death penalty. Interesting.....

Right now, Netherlands has already became the first nation since Nazi Germany to legalize euthanasia in the fall of 2000....

I can't say I blame them...

Yiz
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Why are you against harvesting of organs?

And in Netherlands, who decides to die? Only the patients who are terminally ill.
 
yizuman said:
Yes I read that and JK also mentioned on the fact that he hears about those stories as a child. Now think about that, how hearing these stories, on top of the fact he reads about the Holocaust years later. How this sort of thing effected his life and his way of thinking.

His painting speaks volumes on that.

Here's something else....

Opinions on capital punishment, executions and med... [Med Law. 1985] - PubMed result (scroll down)

Capital punishment and organ retrieval. [CMAJ. 1987] - PubMed result

As it stands, on capital punishment, the ruling on harvesting organs from inmates who have been executed cannot be harvested. They policy is that they wait for a certain number of hours before releasing the body to the funeral director for transport to the funeral home. Reason for that, if an organ isn't harvest within a certain amount of time, the organ no longer becomes viable for transplant. Same reason to prevent any attempts to revive the inmate after execution.

JK wants the ban on harvesting to be lifted. No writings mentioned that JK is against the death penalty. Interesting.....

Let's not forget that JK murdered 130 people in his so called "assistant suicide", that's right, 130 people. If that number doesn't bother you, it should.



In the 1980s, JK published numerous articles in the obscure German journal Medicine and Law outlining his ideas on euthanasia and ethics. I find that interesting because Germany is well known for their stance on euthanasia, especially during the times of Hitler when he was in power. They made a propaganda film encouraging citizens with varying terminal illnesses as well as physical disabilities to commit suicide.



Of course, they also created "racial laws" as well as "Laws against the disability"....

Das Erbe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As the old saying goes, "Those that forget the past are forever condemned to repeat it."

If we forget what happened in Germany, then we're repeating it now right here not only on American soil, but also abroad outside of German history and we're seeing it grow all over again like it was done in Germany.

Right now, Netherlands has already became the first nation since Nazi Germany to legalize euthanasia in the fall of 2000....



I can't say I blame them...

Yiz
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You are terribly confused regarding the differences between euthanasia and assisted suicide. You really need to start using your brain instead of your emotion to respond to these highly charged topics. You are also a bit confused regarding the articles you mentioned. Writing an article on the ethical implications and dilemas involved with assisted suicide is not support for the practices seen in ethnic cleansing.
 
netrox said:
Why are you against harvesting of organs?

And in Netherlands, who decides to die? Only the patients who are terminally ill.
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Right. The Netherlands allow for PAS, not euthansia. Yiz is just really confused about the two.
 
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