IRS targeted Tea Party and others--scandal grows

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IRS scrutiny went beyond Tea Party, targeting of conservative groups broader than thought
Published May 13, 2013

An IRS campaign to apply additional scrutiny to conservative groups went beyond targeting "Tea Party" and "patriot" groups to include those focused on government spending, the Constitution and several other broad areas.

The additional guidelines created by the agency were part of a timeline, obtained by Fox News, from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, which is looking into the controversial IRS practice. IRS officials apologized Friday for the scrutiny, but new information suggests senior leaders were apprised of the effort as early as 2011 despite public denials from the top.

Republican lawmakers have vowed to investigate and hold hearings, calling the revelations deeply troubling.

"The conclusion that the IRS came to is that they did have agents who were engaged in intimidation of political groups," Michigan Rep. Mike Rogers told "Fox News Sunday." "I don't care if you're a conservative, a liberal, a Democrat or a Republican, this should send a chill up your spine. It needs to have a full investigation."

The internal IG timeline shows a unit in the agency was looking at Tea Party and "patriot" groups dating back to early 2010. But it shows that list of criteria drastically expanding by the time a June 2011 briefing was held. It then included groups focused on government spending, government debt, taxes, and education on ways to "make America a better place to live." It even flagged groups whose file included criticism of "how the country is being run."

By early 2012, the criteria were updated to include organizations involved in "limiting/expanding government," education on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and social economic reform.

Taken together, the findings of the IG and the initial admissions by the IRS Friday are fueling complaints from Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Evidence that the IRS was flagging such groups in 2011 was included in a draft inspector general's report obtained Saturday by Fox News and other news organizations and expected to be released in full later this week.

That information seemingly contradicts public statements by IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman, who told congressional investigators in March 2011 that specific groups were not being targeted.

Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins on Sunday also called the IRS activities chilling and said she was disappointed that President Obama had not condemned the actions.

"This is truly outrageous and it contributes to the profound distrust that the American people have in government," Collins told CNN's "State of the Union." "It is absolutely chilling that the IRS was singling out conservative groups for extra review. And I think that it's very disappointing that the president hasn't personally condemned this."

At about the same time, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney released a statement saying: "If the inspector general finds that there were any rules broken or that conduct of government officials did not meet the standards required of them, the president expects that swift and appropriate steps will be taken to address any misconduct."

Michigan Republican Rep. Dave Camp, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, said Friday his committee will hold a hearing on the issue.
The IRS said Friday that it was sorry for what it called the "inappropriate" targeting of the conservative groups during the 2012 elections.

Lois G. Lerner, who heads the IRS division that oversees tax-exempt organizations, said the practice was initiated by low-level workers in Cincinnati and was not motivated by political bias.

But on June 29, 2011, Lerner found out that such groups were being targeted, according to the inspector general's report.

She was told at a meeting that groups with "Tea Party," "Patriot" or "9/12 Project" in their names were being flagged for additional and often burdensome scrutiny, the report states.

The 9/12 Project is a group started by conservative TV personality Glenn Beck.

Collins also said she does not believe the activity was limited to "a couple of rogue IRS employees."

"After all," she added, "groups with `progressive' in their names were not targeted similarly."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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IRS scrutiny went beyond Tea Party, targeting of conservative groups broader than thought | Fox News
 
This is just back and forth between the parties, it goes on every time one party has power.

Our system of checks and balance at work..
 
Kind of political, don't ya think? I notice nearly all the political posts that are created, then quickly getting locked, are bashing Dems. Is this a sly workaround way of continuing to bash Liberals?

BTW, this might be a prime example of the squeaky wheel getting greased. Conservatives are generally the folks that complain about paying taxes. Liberals don't. The results? See the OP.

It does not mean I advocate this. It is biased and illegal.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
This is just back and forth between the parties, it goes on every time one party has power.

Our system of checks and balance at work..
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What organizations were audited by the other party? That is, what keywords were being flagged under the prior administration?
 
I'm now confused, is IRS under the command of administration, or independently?

I think IRS is independent and can do whatever what they want, much like FBI. I know a guy who works at IRS, maybe I should ask him (if he still work for them)
 
Lukin said:
I'm now confused, is IRS under the command of administration, or independently?

I think IRS is independent and can do whatever what they want, much like FBI. I know a guy who works at IRS, maybe I should ask him (if he still work for them)
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IRS is independent agency but they HAVE to FOLLOW the rules that set by the congress.
 
Lukin said:
I'm now confused, is IRS under the command of administration, or independently?

I think IRS is independent and can do whatever what they want, much like FBI. I know a guy who works at IRS, maybe I should ask him (if he still work for them)
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absolutely not. FBI does not operate whatever and however they want. that's illegal. and FBI Director is appointed by the President and can be fired by the President.

same - the IRS Commissioner is appointed by the President.
 
Jiro said:
absolutely not. FBI does not operate whatever and however they want. that's illegal. and FBI Director is appointed by the President and can be fired by the President.

same - the IRS Commissioner is appointed by the President.
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I was thinking of Watergate Scandal... I guess it's possible for some FBI henchmen to defect, but now that I think about how Harding/Coolidge/Roosevelt used the FBI, makes sense.

Did Obama just used IRS to catch conservatives group recently? I'm somewhat confused about what whether IRS' agenda was appointed by higher directive. I thought it was the other way around, Obama getting mad at IRS or something, thats why I brought this topic up I guess!
 
Lukin said:
I was thinking of Watergate Scandal... I guess it's possible for some FBI henchmen to defect, but now that I think about how Harding/Coolidge/Roosevelt used the FBI, makes sense.

Did Obama just used IRS to catch conservatives group recently? I'm somewhat confused about what whether IRS' agenda was appointed by higher directive. I thought it was the other way around, Obama getting mad at IRS or something, thats why I brought this topic up I guess!
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well the question is - does it matter? :lol:

"Plausible Deniability". it's easy. it's convenient.
 
Jiro said:
absolutely not. FBI does not operate whatever and however they want. that's illegal. and FBI Director is appointed by the President and can be fired by the President.

same - the IRS Commissioner is appointed by the President.
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Also require majority approval (confirmation) from senate too.
 
Foxrac said:
Also require majority approval (confirmation) from senate too.
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right. but I don't see any need to mention it because it's pretty much a common knowledge. just about anybody except his own staff that the President appointed requires an approval by Senate.
 
Lukin said:
I was thinking of Watergate Scandal... I guess it's possible for some FBI henchmen to defect, but now that I think about how Harding/Coolidge/Roosevelt used the FBI, makes sense.

Did Obama just used IRS to catch conservatives group recently? I'm somewhat confused about what whether IRS' agenda was appointed by higher directive. I thought it was the other way around, Obama getting mad at IRS or something, thats why I brought this topic up I guess!
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IRS isn't political - IRS is just enforce Internal Revenue Code and tax laws that set by the congress, also they investigate on tax frauds or other problems.
 
Foxrac said:
IRS isn't political - IRS is just enforce Internal Revenue Code and tax laws that set by the congress, also they investigate on tax frauds or other problems.
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don't be naive :lol:
 
Jiro said:
right. but I don't see any need to mention it because it's pretty much a common knowledge. just about anybody except his own staff that the President appointed requires an approval by Senate.
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I got it now - ok. :cool2:
 
Foxrac said:
IRS isn't political - IRS is just enforce Internal Revenue Code and tax laws that set by the congress, also they investigate on tax frauds or other problems.
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taxes are political... But yeah, I do get your point, IRS just conduct their errands otuside the political circles. oh wait, isn't that just like senate?

Umm i'm now slgihtly confused

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Jiro said:
everything is political. period.
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That's not what I was talking.

IRS is supposed to not side with liberal or conservative, or Democratic Party or Republican Party. The role of IRS to enforce Internal Revenue Code and tax laws, also they are responsible to process the tax exempt.

That why I said IRS supposed to be not politically charged. :roll:
 
Foxrac said:
That's not what I was talking.

IRS is supposed to not side with liberal or conservative, or Democratic Party or Republican Party. The role of IRS to enforce Internal Revenue Code and tax laws, also they are responsible to process the tax exempt.

That why I said IRS supposed to be not politically charged. :roll:
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see Post #14. looks like we'll have to move on.
 
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