I would like your opinion on something.

TXgolfer said:
:lol: the point is not difficult for a parent to understand. Good parents love their kids no matter what. Doesn't mean they approve of what they do or what they think.
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If this is the case why do we have preachers shouting from pulpits across America that homosexuality is a sin and will get you hell, fire, and brimstone?

They preach it like it's evil of society aside from murder and adultery. It's bothersome really. They teach their own kids to make snide remarks about homosexuals.

Once I read this kid's status on FB, his parents go to my church, it went something like this: "I just saw two girls kiss, I think I just lost my appetite and wasted $7 at McDonald's." This kid was 17 at the time and very very very cocky and sure of himself. He's been taught all of his life that this is disgusting abhorrent behavior and that it should be avoided and condemned at all cost.

I thought very seriously of posting back "I just saw a man and a woman kiss on TV, I think I just lost my appetite and will be found in the bathroom purging." or something like that.
 
Meh, a question was asked. I answered without going into religion since that is frowned upon here. I also made no commentary on the lifestyle.

People love people all the time without approving of their actions,feeling or emotions
 
Dixie said:
If this is the case why do we have preachers shouting from pulpits across America that homosexuality is a sin and will get you hell, fire, and brimstone?

They preach it like it's evil of society aside from murder and adultery. It's bothersome really. They teach their own kids to make snide remarks about
I thought very seriously of posting back "I just saw a man and a woman kiss on TV, I think I just lost my appetite and will be found in the bathroom purging." or something like that.
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sorry but I am going to choose to follow the AD rules and not answer this as it is about religion.

FYI I deleted part of your quote because the phone won't let me scroll that far to reply...
 
You don't have to answer if you don't feel like it or we can take it to PM land, whichever you're comfortable with. Just saying the reason behind a lot of the hate or bashings against LBGT is religion. Those who aren't religious or don't regularly attend church generally support gays, or at least it has been in my experience.
 
Put it in reverse!:lol:

The religious reference didn't seem to be a problem in responding to the initial question, lol.
 
Dixie said:
You don't have to answer if you don't feel like it or we can take it to PM land, whichever you're comfortable with. Just saying the reason behind a lot of the hate or bashings against LBGT is religion. Those who aren't religious or don't regularly attend church generally support gays, or at least it has been in my experience.
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Like I said....I have no opinion either way really. Merely pointing out it's possible to love without approving.
 
But deep down everyone is seeking approval whether it is from their parents, peers, co-workers, bosses, preacher, etc.
 
Dixie said:
But deep down everyone is seeking approval whether it is from their parents, peers, co-workers, bosses, preacher, etc.
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At least acceptance.

And you are absolutely correct. Everyone seeks approval (validation) from someone. The problems arise when that approval becomes conditional.
 
Dixie said:
But deep down everyone is seeking approval whether it is from their parents, peers, co-workers, bosses, preacher, etc.
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*shrug* I invited you to LGBT night at the sharks game. :lol: J/k

the beanie sucked though. Just a black beanie with a shark and "LGBT Night" in block letters. Boring!
 
jillio said:
At least acceptance.

And you are absolutely correct. Everyone seeks approval (validation) from someone. The problems arise when that approval becomes conditional.
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Exactly. Either you will fall into the norm for your community/society or you will go out on your own and find another group or person that will accept you the way you are. They say Jesus loves you the way you are, but...... then they name off some sort of sin or 'habit' you may or may not have. For example:
Come to the cross/altar/whateveritistheycallit, Jesus is here to accept you. You have to throw away your sin, throw away your homosexuality. You can't be used for the kingdom of God with sin in your life, you've got to remove it! Let Jesus cleanse you and free you from your sexual life! :shock:

And yes I know I am going painfully close here with the rules, but just saying what generally happens without knocking believers (I'm a believer as well - my name can be found in the rolls at FBC-D-ville, AR. and I attend regularly). Just stating what happens when the invitation is commenced.
 
Dixie said:
Exactly. Either you will fall into the norm for your community/society or you will go out on your own and find another group or person that will accept you the way you are. They say Jesus loves you the way you are, but...... then they name off some sort of sin or 'habit' you may or may not have. For example:
Come to the cross/altar/whateveritistheycallit, Jesus is here to accept you. You have to throw away your sin, throw away your homosexuality. You can't be used for the kingdom of God with sin in your life, you've got to remove it! Let Jesus cleanse you and free you from your sexual life! :shock:

And yes I know I am going painfully close here with the rules, but just saying what generally happens without knocking believers (I'm a believer as well - my name can be found in the rolls at FBC-D-ville, AR. and I attend regularly). Just stating what happens when the invitation is commenced.
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I agree with you completely. The hypocrisy is blatant. It is nothing more than a way to justify judging someone else, and judgement is nothing more than a fear of what is different.
 
some people who HAPPEN to be gay may "look different" depending on what is the general situation of the community. Some people who are straight may ALSO "look different". One topic I see here for myself is that - the other is, IF the guest is gay and not out, then that person was outed.
But many people "look different", depends on what the person saying it considers "different".
If someone said that to me, I think my kind of responses would be:
I'm wondering why you said that? what do you mean by that? is that really true, and if it is, do you think that the individual we're discussing wants everyone to know?
why does it matter to you? <this part of my theoretical conversation>
 
dogmom said:
some people who HAPPEN to be gay may "look different" depending on what is the general situation of the community. Some people who are straight may ALSO "look different". One topic I see here for myself is that - the other is, IF the guest is gay and not out, then that person was outed.
But many people "look different", depends on what the person saying it considers "different".
If someone said that to me, I think my kind of responses would be:
I'm wondering why you said that? what do you mean by that? is that really true, and if it is, do you think that the individual we're discussing wants everyone to know?
why does it matter to you? <this part of my theoretical conversation>
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Exactly. That is the million dollar question. Why does it matter?
 
ok, well i don't see how this is even responding to the OP anymore, however ill give my two cents for anyone who cares..

background: i was christened catholic, changed to a general christian.

1.now that religion crap is out of the way, god did not write the bible. If you are saying that it's Christians to teach the "people" to hate gay's well then your only half right. not everyone is like that nor do they preach/believe that such as myself. If god made MEN capable of being gay, he wont condemn them..LEAVE RELIGION out, it's people, not GOD, doesnt matter which god(s) you believe in. the bible also says evolution isnt real btw...
2. If your parents love you they will ACCEPT you, its normal to be upset that you might not have a child, and scares them you might be judged. i think thats all he was saying
3. you should be able to tell if someone is gay, even without him being flamboyant, either way it shouldn't matter and you shouldnt be treated any better or worse i am sorry.
4.preceding, how you dress/wear has nothing to do with if your gay or not, Even if they dress in drag, it doesn't mean they are gay...just because you wear jeans and a plain t-shirt doesnt make you straight, thats ridiculous...
5.lastly, just like hearing people want their baby to be hearing sometimes it is not because someone told them hearing babies are awesome....it is because USUALLY people like when they have things in common with their children, like going to ur dads old HS/uni. This is the same concept, people react to as if your abnormal, just be glad they are not going to do surgery on you because your "Impaired" and all that bullshit. The more you hate the church/god the less you will make a difference and change people
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I was talking to my younger sister about her daughter graduation party and
asked my sister how many people would be there. My sister started to tell me that one of the guest is gay and I am thinking why is my sister telling me this. I told her that is not my business and and my sister when on to tell that I will be able to tell that the guest is gay as she "look difference!" WTF!! My sister said this woman is a good friend of her , I wonder if the woman realize what my sister is saying about her behind her back! I think my sister is a bigot to make a statement like this. There is going to be about 30 people at the party and my sister point out that one guest is gay!
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to TRY to keep this on track, it is kind of weird to me why calling someone gay is such an insult to you...she said shes friends with her, you wouldnt be mad if your sister told her friends "yeah come over, btw my brother is straight"..its a tad bit irrelevant but hardly offensive, if you make the term seem like a taboo your only making it worse!
 
Why bother to talk about your friends who are just like all the other friends you have?

Talk about the one who is different -- It's more fun.
 
Berry said:
Why bother to talk about your friends who are just like all the other friends you have?

Talk about the one who is different -- It's more fun.
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exactly :), my friends joke with me about being brown all the time, i don't consider them not my friend...if you cant laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at..
 
qawaearata said:
exactly :), my friends joke with me about being brown all the time, i don't consider them not my friend...if you cant laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at..
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My mother taught me when I was VERY young -- "A joke is no less funny just because it is on you."

AND ...

"If you can't laugh at yourself you have no right to laugh at others."
 
And - if you can laugh at yourself, you will have an endless source of amusement always available.
 
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