How you treat waiters can predict character

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I saw this before I got the 'net hooked back up at home. I treat waiters better than some supervisors and managers have treated me.

CEOs say how you treat a waiter can predict a lot about character
By Del Jones, USA TODAY
Fri Apr 14, 7:57 AM ET

Office Depot CEO Steve Odland remembers like it was yesterday working in an upscale French restaurant in Denver.

The purple sorbet in cut glass he was serving tumbled onto the expensive white gown of an obviously rich and important woman. "I watched in slow motion ruining her dress for the evening," Odland says. "I thought I would be shot on sight."

Thirty years have passed, but Odland can't get the stain out of his mind, nor the woman's kind reaction. She was startled, regained composure and, in a reassuring voice, told the teenage Odland, "It's OK. It wasn't your fault."

When she left the restaurant, she also left the future Fortune 500 CEO with a life lesson: You can tell a lot about a person by the way he or she treats the waiter.

Odland isn't the only CEO to have made this discovery. Rather, it seems to be one of those rare laws of the land that every CEO learns on the way up. It's hard to get a dozen CEOs to agree about anything, but all interviewed agree with the Waiter Rule.

They acknowledge that CEOs live in a Lake Wobegon world where every dinner or lunch partner is above average in their deference. How others treat the CEO says nothing, they say. But how others treat the waiter is like a magical window into the soul.

And beware of anyone who pulls out the power card to say something like, "I could buy this place and fire you," or "I know the owner and I could have you fired." Those who say such things have revealed more about their character than about their wealth and power.

Whoever came up with the waiter observation "is bang spot on," says BMW North America President Tom Purves, a native of Scotland, a citizen of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland, who lives in New York City with his Norwegian wife, Hilde, and works for a German company. That makes him qualified to speak on different cultures, and he says the waiter theory is true everywhere.

The CEO who came up with it, or at least first wrote it down, is Raytheon CEO Bill Swanson. He wrote a booklet of 33 short leadership observations called Swanson's Unwritten Rules of Management. Raytheon has given away 250,000 of the books.

Among those 33 rules is only one that Swanson says never fails: "A person who is nice to you but rude to the waiter, or to others, is not a nice person."

Swanson says he first noticed this in the 1970s when he was eating with a man who became "absolutely obnoxious" to a waiter because the restaurant did not stock a particular wine.

"Watch out for people who have a situational value system, who can turn the charm on and off depending on the status of the person they are interacting with," Swanson writes. "Be especially wary of those who are rude to people perceived to be in subordinate roles."

The Waiter Rule also applies to the way people treat hotel maids, mailroom clerks, bellmen and security guards. Au Bon Pain co-founder Ron Shaich, now CEO of Panera Bread, says he was interviewing a candidate for general counsel in St. Louis. She was "sweet" to Shaich but turned "amazingly rude" to someone cleaning the tables, Shaich says. She didn't get the job.

Shaich says any time candidates are being considered for executive positions at Panera Bread, he asks his assistant, Laura Parisi, how they treated her, because some applicants are "pushy, self-absorbed and rude" to her before she transfers the call to him.

Just about every CEO has a waiter story to tell. Dave Gould, CEO of Witness Systems, experienced the rule firsthand when a waitress dumped a full glass of red wine on the expensive suit of another CEO during a contract negotiation. The victim CEO put her at ease with a joke about not having had time to shower that morning. A few days later, when there was an apparent impasse during negotiations, Gould trusted that CEO to have the character to work out any differences.

CEOs who blow up at waiters have an ego out of control, Gould says. "They're saying, 'I'm better. I'm smarter.' Those people tend not to be collaborative."

"To some people, speaking in a condescending manner makes them feel important, which to me is a total turnoff," says Seymour Holtzman, chairman of Casual Male Retail Group, which operates big-and-tall men's clothing stores including Casual Male XL.

How people were raised

Such behavior is an accurate predictor of character because it isn't easily learned or unlearned but rather speaks to how people were raised, says Siki Giunta, CEO of U.S. technology company Managed Objects, a native of Rome who once worked as a London bartender.

More recently, she had a boss who would not speak directly to the waiter but would tell his assistant what he wanted to eat, and the assistant would tell the waiter in a comical three-way display of pomposity. What did Giunta learn about his character? "That he was demanding and could not function well without a lot of hand-holding from his support system," she said.

It's somewhat telling, Giunta says, that the more elegant the restaurant, the more distant and invisible the wait staff is. As if the more important the customer, the less the wait staff matters. People view waiters as their temporary personal employees. Therefore, how executives treat waiters probably demonstrates how they treat their actual employees, says Sara Lee CEO Brenda Barnes, a former waitress and postal clerk, who says she is a demanding boss but never shouts at or demeans an employee.

"Sitting in the chair of CEO makes me no better of a person than the forklift operator in our plant," she says. "If you treat the waiter, or a subordinate, like garbage, guess what? Are they going to give it their all? I don't think so."

CEOs aren't the only ones who have discovered the Waiter Rule. A November survey of 2,500 by It's Just Lunch, a dating service for professionals, found that being rude to waiters ranks No. 1 as the worst in dining etiquette, at 52%, way ahead of blowing your nose at the table, at 35%.

Waiters say that early in a relationship, women will pull them aside to see how much their dates tipped, to get a read on their frugality and other tendencies. They are increasingly discussing boorish behavior by important customers at www.waiterrant.net and other blogs. They don't seem to mind the demanding customer, such as those who want meals prepared differently because of high blood pressure. But they have contempt for the arrogant customer.

Rule works with celebrities, too

The Waiter Rule also applies to celebrities, says Jimmy Rosemond, CEO of agency Czar Entertainment, who has brokered deals for Mike Tyson, Mario Winans and Guerilla Black. Rosemond declines to name names, but he remembers one dinner episode in Houston a few years back with a rude divisional president of a major music company.

When dinner was over, Rosemond felt compelled to apologize to the waiter on the way out. "I said, 'Please forgive my friend for acting like that.' It's embarrassing. They go into rages for simple mistakes like forgetting an order."

Rosemond says that particular music executive also treated his assistants and interns poorly - and was eventually fired.

Odland says he saw all types of people 30 years ago as a busboy. "People treated me wonderfully and others treated me like dirt. There were a lot of ugly people. I didn't have the money or the CEO title at the time, but I had the same intelligence and raw ability as I have today.

"Why would people treat me differently? Your value system and ethics need to be constant at all times regardless of who you are dealing with."

Holtzman grew up in the coal-mining town of Wilkes-Barre, Pa., and in the 1950s saw opportunity as a waiter 90 miles away in the Catskill Mountains, where customers did not tip until the end of the week. When they tipped poorly, he would say: "Sir, will you and your wife be tipping separately?"

"I saw a lot of character, or the lack thereof," says Holtzman, who says he can still carry three dishes in his right hand and two in his left.

"But for some twist of fate in life, they're the waiter and you're the one being waited on," Barnes says.


Copyright © 2006 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc.
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This is interesting . . . I would not be surprised if future employers here on alldeaf.com do this to determine if a candidate is worthy of hire. I think I would do it.

In addition, taking a potential employee to lunch would test him/her: What dollar amount is the food (always go below your potential boss), beverage (same applies . . . never alcohol, regardless), if they eat with elbows on the table, chew with mouth closed or do they chomp?? Do they eat or take a sip of a beverage before the potential boss does? What does the potential employee talk about/do when the potential boss steps away? When leaving, does potential employee wait with potential boss at the cash register to pay the bill or leave? Did they thank the potential boss for the lunch or beverage, as well as a hand-written thank you note for such? These are all things to think about.
 
Not only waiters/Waitresses... it applies to any place that allow people tip. at work, I always know who tip or who never tip. I could tell by their face expressions and personalities. It is rarely that I get tip with 5.00, and one time I got tipped $2.00 during early am before my shift ended after overnight shift.... Sometimes people just tip me with whole of change little over $1 like $1,50, even $1.75. My boss said that I get tipped more than him because he said that people like me.

I am sure it goes same as for Cabbies, Corinage (?) services, anything that let people tip.
 
Wow that is very interesting. I have experience of being a waitress and bartended to people and head cook at the bar for 11 yrs. some of people were rude and didnt tip well. once i got tipped for 20 dollars for doing a great job on cooking steaks. whoo do de.. lol

but most of the people who come to the bar nightly are the regular middle class so they are cool.. as for the daytime especially during lunch hours- i noticed most are well off people who dressed nicely and demand their foods to be good and not too done or whatever you know? I wish they would RELAX and let us do our job! jeez. it can be nerve-wracking to do this .. i am so glad i dont work in this field again ... whew! ha..
 
racheleggert said:
Not only waiters/Waitresses... it applies to any place that allow people tip. at work, I always know who tip or who never tip. I could tell by their face expressions and personalities. It is rarely that I get tip with 5.00, and one time I got tipped $2.00 during early am before my shift ended after overnight shift.... Sometimes people just tip me with whole of change little over $1 like $1,50, even $1.75. My boss said that I get tipped more than him because he said that people like me.

I am sure it goes same as for Cabbies, Corinage (?) services, anything that let people tip.

Racheleggert,

Regarding cabbies, did you know that the ones that sit down at the airport are not paid until they get a fare? That means that they are sitting out there all day on their own time. I talked to a few of them a few weeks ago and this is what they told me. Dang, I don't recall while growing up that cab companies did that to their employees, they were regular paid workers.
 
SmileyGin said:
Wow that is very interesting. I have experience of being a waitress and bartended to people and head cook at the bar for 11 yrs. some of people were rude and didnt tip well. once i got tipped for 20 dollars for doing a great job on cooking steaks. whoo do de.. lol

but most of the people who come to the bar nightly are the regular middle class so they are cool.. as for the daytime especially during lunch hours- i noticed most are well off people who dressed nicely and demand their foods to be good and not too done or whatever you know? I wish they would RELAX and let us do our job! jeez. it can be nerve-wracking to do this .. i am so glad i dont work in this field again ... whew! ha..


When my great aunt was alive, if you wanted to leave a tip, you left it after she left the table, otherwise, she'd take it and put it in her pocket. She was a farmers wife, but money was an object to her. I have another aunt that doesn't believe in tipping at all.

I've been a waiter and preferred the smoking section because the people tipped there. Another thing, I preferred that section, especially Sunday nights, due to the "church people" because they didn't tip. I hated waiting tables Sunday mornings and afternoons, because the self-righteous church people came in and hardly any of them tipped and were quite demanding. One Wednesday night, one church person was seated and then plopped his Bible on the table (as if I was supposed to tremble or something). It was a major turn-off to me and still is.
 
pek1 said:
...I've been a waiter and preferred the smoking section because the people tipped there. Another thing, I preferred that section, especially Sunday nights, due to the "church people" because they didn't tip. I hated waiting tables Sunday mornings and afternoons, because the self-righteous church people came in and hardly any of them tipped and were quite demanding. One Wednesday night, one church person was seated and then plopped his Bible on the table (as if I was supposed to tremble or something). It was a major turn-off to me and still is.
Our Pastor frequently reminds us that we must be good tippers. He tells us that it is very bad testimony for Christians to leave a cheap tip.

I've always been a generous tipper because I've worked at jobs in the past that were very low wages, so I know how important tips are for workers.
 
Reba said:
Our Pastor frequently reminds us that we must be good tippers. He tells us that it is very bad testimony for Christians to leave a cheap tip.

I've always been a generous tipper because I've worked at jobs in the past that were very low wages, so I know how important tips are for workers.

:thumb: :thumb: One for you, the other for your pastor!
 
It's part of their pay

What some people still don't accept or realize is that anyone who gets tips is probably working for half of minimum wage ($2.50/hr?). This is a HUGE loophole in labor law and is exploited by companies big and small. Tips are usually more than the waiter or waitress' actual paycheck. They are NOT 'a little extra' on top of $5.25/hr.

Even these folks have bills to pay. How many of us would like to deal with the public for 40-50 hours a week and be lucky to bring home $250-300?
 
I have known about this for a number of years, but it does not tell the whole story because some people are smooth manipulators which requires another way to find out if he or she is really good for the job.
 
ITPjohn said:
How many of us would like to deal with the public for 40-50 hours a week and be lucky to bring home $250-300?

Like this . . . :rifle:
 
Heath said:
I have known about this for a number of years, but it does not tell the whole story because some people are smooth manipulators which requires another way to find out if he or she is really good for the job.

Huh what? Sounds to me, Heath, you know nothing about serving in a restaurant. :rifle:
 
that is right.. usually waitresses dont have the federal minmum wage starting at 5.25 but starting at 4.25 in some restaurants here in town.. so they have to earn their tips to make up for what they dont get in paychecks.

in some fancy restaurants like in big city.. usually they included the tips with your check when u ordered foods.. graduity fees are included if some people doesnt know this? but that is tips for people who work at the restaurant.. so not many people know this .. thinking they said no tips haha at waitresses but really they do get tipped due to gradutity fees.. (forgot to add this... but not all restaurants do have gradutity fees add to the bills .. so keep that in mind, ok?)

when i saw that they do have gradutity fees.. i do tip them too? if they did a wonderful service no matter what cuz i was told be polite to tip them as they worked hard?? :)
 
pek1 said:
Huh what? Sounds to me, Heath, you know nothing about serving in a restaurant. :rifle:

I have not been a waiter, never have been one and never will be a waiter. :smoking:

but I do know that just looking at someone for a job does not always tell the whole story. Sometimes they are smooth manipulators which means you have to find another way of finding out what he or she will do in a situation to test the character of that person but even nothing is 100 % accurate.

You have to look at the whole individual which many employers fail to do because they are too stuck on..... " the rule of the thumb " or a yardstick for hiring new workers. shakes my head, it is always funny to see how rich people think.
 
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