How can we all get along?

[Liebling:-)))]

I create a new thread here to split from my thread "Does Religion really matter?" to aviod :topic:

Dear ADers,

Please don´t make my thread into drama but vent out how you feeling and share your POV normal. Please make NORMAL debate instead of take posts personal.

No insult and bash but use your common sense.



I am going to paste some posts from my other thread over here to response.

Originally Posted by Liebling))
I don't have any religion myself but neutral to any religions.

Angel´s post
If you are neutral to ANY religion then why you show more respect to others but not toward the Christian's beliefs?

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I am glad that you ask me on this.

I respect Christians´ belief, not their manner behavior itself.

Let me to share the list what and how some Christians response most of their posts toward me like this. I know it´s not just me but other ADers as well.

List of Christians´ comments.

1. *cough* Satan *cough*
2. you are wrong
3. You go hell if you do not accept God
4. false religions
5. you are not saved.
6. so keep your crazy theories to yourself, because you're only misleading people...
7. mocked God and Jesus
8. unsaved people butchering the Word of God, even murders, even liars
9. Don't you have a heart for God?
10. you say that are so hurtful, so mean, so cold
11. Most unbelievers had made assumptions, lies about God
12. It's their own fault
13. People can be very sincere in what they believe, but they can also be sincerely wrong.
14. cruel and heartless, selfish
15. choose eternity in Hell
16. either invite Him in your life or reject Him
17. *cough* truth??
18. People only care about themselves
19. Don't you dare come on this thread and assume much of a lie
20. I hate liars and I can't stand liars, so you better watch out!
21. *cough immature*
22. You're more an Atheism than Catholic, because of the absence of belief in the existence of God.
23. they are not saved and go to hell
24. "You are silly" is an opinion.
    whiner. I'm sorry to say, they complain about everything (toward ADer´s venting)
25. The truth is you don't know the real truth.
26. Spreading lies helps people understand about God and Jesus
    
    
    

Should I respect those list? Have you see me say those list like this toward Christians? Nope... I keep myself quiet and tried to positive their posts but I sometimes could lost my mind.

Those list like this put me off totally. No wonder, why Christianity´s behavior put many people off and turn into different beliefs. I noticed many ADers saw the fact but their fact and logic are being denied by some Christians.

I use my own judgment on theory to determine what and what not to follow in the Bible. Different religion beleivers respect my belief as the same as I respect their belief as well but some Christians? Where´s their respect on my belief? I have no problem to have them to disagree with me and against my POV but disrespectful (see list above)? Have you see me say like this to Christians?

I can´t tell others what to believe and what not to believe in or they are wrong or right. I decide myself what I want and feel comfortable with. Nobody can change me but myself. I respect the people´s choice. It doesn´t mean that they goes hell because they do not follow Christianity´s belief when they choose different belief than Christianity´s belief. I would not say to them to go hell because they decide for other religion belief than Christianity but respect what they are. If a person strongly firm that he/she beleive in God´s existence and don´t believe in God in Heaven but as man. I respect that. If a person doubt God´s existence and questions to help him/her to understand. I have good patience if she/he repeat their questions. I noticed that my question annoy some Christians because my questions are annoy to them. They have to face sometimes if there´re positive and negative about God and Jesus. Why should I positive God all the time then?

Christians are annoyed that I disrespect their God and claimed that I mocked God. I only focus the fact and logic. God is for everyone, not for their God. It doesn´t mean that their religion are false when they decide different religion than Christianity what they feel comfortable with and agree with their Bible against Christianity´s bible.

I am here to listen any religion believers what they firm beleive in and debate disagree to agree with them - question them... They don´t see red like Christianity. They see red when I use my judgement and theory because I disagree with them. They force me to see their view as truth but they don´t want to see that I DISAGREE with them. They see red when I said God is a murder or killer because I offend their God. Sorry, they have to face sometimes when there´re positive and negative about God and Jesus history in the Bible. They can´t expect positive ALL THE TIME about God and Jesus´s history in the Bible.

Why can´t some people accept that God can be cruel with good reasons.

I want to get along well with some Christians like I did with different religion beleivers. Hard...

Is it hard to accept each other when we have different beliefs?



I agree with PuyoPiyo´s post totally.
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[Liebling:-)))]

Originally Posted by Liebling))
No, some Christians are the one who show lack of respect toward different religion beliefs and accuse their beleif as false .... worship false god, gods, God, etc..... Have you see me to say anything against Christian as false relgion, etc... ? No.

Cheri´s post
Our bible says it, and we were just sharing that information out. It's not us. If we did not share you that information, somebody would be mad at us. Either way we lose.

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Cheri, I see nothing wrong when you want to share that information over your belief. It´s up to us.

*Talk general* It´s up to us to agree to disagree with those information without get force from you, tell us what to do with our beliefs, tell us our information are wrong...

Why should we be mad with you because we were being taught by school and parents about beliefs. We can learn and change our beliefs thru influence from the people, websites or Forums. It´s up to us. I do not like anyone push us to turn into Christianity belief when I firm decide with my choice what I beleive in.

 

[shel90]

and I agree.

 

[Cheri]

:roll:

I see blaming only on the Christians? Where's the other side of the Unbelievers who bashed on us?

There are two sides to every story, and you choosen one-side? then I don't wish to answer this thread.

I don't see this thread is being Neutral.

 

[Roadrunner]

I reserve the 'right' to say this thread is somewhat 'bias', simply told, as much as you may claim that these Christians say this or that per your compilation (the list). However, it goes the same way also when perhaps you and others who have a different belief or way of seeing things also bluntly say such and such, therefore, a compilation can easily be drawn up and match word for word, idea for idea....etc.




~RR

 

[Angel]

:roll:

I see blaming only on the Christians? Where's the other side of the Unbelievers who bashed on us?

There are two sides to every story, and you choosen one-side? then I don't wish to answer this thread.

I don't see this thread is being Neutral.

...


:shaking my head and walking away from this thread:

 

[Cheri]

I reserve the 'right' to say this thread is somewhat 'bias', simply told, as much as you may claim that these Christians say this or that per your compilation (the list). However, it goes the same way also when perhaps you and others who have a different belief or way of seeing things also bluntly say such and such, therefore, a compilation can easily be drawn up and match word for word, idea for idea....etc.




~RR

!! I'm glad someone else see this thread as being "bias"

 

[Angel]

I reserve the 'right' to say this thread is somewhat 'bias', simply told, as much as you may claim that these Christians say this or that per your compilation (the list). However, it goes the same way also when perhaps you and others who have a different belief or way of seeing things also bluntly say such and such, therefore, a compilation can easily be drawn up and match word for word, idea for idea....etc.


~RR

Thank you Roadrunner!!!!!! unless she can pull up all my posts and prove that I stated all this

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Originally Posted by Liebling))
No, some Christians are the one who show lack of respect toward different religion beliefs and accuse their beleif as false .... worship false god, gods, God, etc..... Have you see me to say anything against Christian as false relgion, etc... ? No.

GarnetTigerMom´s post
Nope, so far I haven't seen you said anything against christian. I think it them whom have trouble accpeting other people view on religions issue and not respect their view on what type of religions people perfer to be. I know some people here have disagreement and some agree to certin type of religion. When it come to culture issue in religions some christian have to respect other people choice of religion. I hope that good answer I can come up with.

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for confirm your knowledge that I did not against Christians.

Yes, I noticed it but I guess the problem is I disrespect "their" God. Remember, God is for everywhere, not Christianity´s God. Yes I noticed that they have problem to accept non-beleiver, non-religion and different religion believer´s POV.

I tried to explain why they choose to different religions, not follow Christian´s religion only in my thread "Does religion really matter"? It depend on their cultural background in different countries where they were raised to beleive in.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

GarnetTigerMom´s post
oh please,, I am not pointing my fingers at you because you are "christian" I am sayin in general some christians don't always " see eyes to eyes" on religions issue who is right or wrong. I can understand some christians have feelings. But those who are not christians under different religions and beliefs have feelings too. But it seem to some people do have some trouble to accpet christians belief. I hve known many christians are not always " saints " as they say they are. I don't think anyone is 110% perfect saint. No one is. But I have heard people I known acting wayyyyy to christian to me by telling me you should not have kids before marriage! or You will go to hell for having sex before marriage,, those things do turns me off. I even know some christians I know in general telling me you are sinner ,, you are sinner for dating more than one man. That all really turn me off. I think a person should have the right to "choose" what religions they should be and if they are happy with it.

I see the same POV as you. Respect should be two-way street when we open debate with agree to disagree each other when we have different view.

I know you did not label Christians as Bible-beaters but those word is not nice. It could offensive some people who have different beliefs. IMO.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Cheri´s post

Anyone who is a someone that looks at both sides instead of one-side only, posts don't lie, it's there for everyone to see it's truth, and if one doesn't see the truth, doesn't tell the truth, the one who sees the truth tells the truth.

We look both sides between creatism and Evolution to the truth. You look one side only to creatism to the truth. It doesn´t mean that you are wrong but respect you for want to consider creatism only.

How do you know which is truth?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I will be back to response my posts here and other threads later.

 

[Cheri]

We look both sides between creatism and Evolution to the truth. You look one side only to creatism to the truth. It doesn´t mean that you are wrong but respect you for want to consider creatism only.

How do you know which is truth?

My post that you quoted had nothing to do with Creationism and Evolution. It has something to do with what members put down on their posts.

If you going to quote posts, quote every post that is related to our posts, because you are not being netural at all. You more finger-pointing onto the Christians.

Just a warning, You going to make people leave this forum with this thread like what you set up, That is breaking the rules of AD by bashing onto Christians only.

 

[Bear]

Mode Note; Im sorry I agree with Roadrunner and see that this is too biased against one side only. It is very easy to post agreement posts or anything else. So therefore THREAD CLOSED! And please do not create another thread like it. Thank you!