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kokonut said:
Yet they'll insist it is a baby, "my baby," while patting her tummy and certainly not say, "my fetus." And to them, they do have a baby. Try and tell them differently they don't and not something they'll have once it pass thru that magical barrier and become a baby.
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I know that all parents-to-be say it like that. That's ok.

Now you try to ask a pregnant woman "how is your baby?". She would respond, "I don't know because my baby has not been born yet".
 
CrazyPaul said:
I know that all parents-to-be say it like that. That's ok.

Now you try to ask a pregnant woman "how is your baby?". She would respond, "I don't know because my baby has not been born yet".
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No. They'd say that my baby is doing fine. Or my baby is quiet today. Or that my baby is kicking or active today. And then ask you, "you want to feel my baby kicking?" By the way, are you a parent?
 
kokonut said:
No. They'd say that my baby is doing fine. Or my baby is quiet today. Or that my baby is kicking or active today. And then ask you, "you want to feel my baby kicking?" By the way, are you a parent?
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Those things they say are customary which is fine.

Yes, I have one 23 yrs old son and one 18 yrs old daughter.

Abortion don't kill babies. It aborts fetuses within 4-5 months. That's why it's legal.
 
Jiro said:
simple - we follow the law. the law allows spouse or parent to decide on their loved one's fate when it comes to pulling a plug or not.


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I'm not talking end-of-life decisions. Some people need feeding tubes and/or oxygen for a temporary period of time. You're saying that a someone could pull the plug on their spouse or child even though they know that the spouse/child will be fine w/o the life-support in a few days, weeks, months? :cool2:
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Jiro said:
I don't think telling parents what to do is right. Right now.... it's legal so it's not technically "killing".
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Right now it is legal.....but still killing
 
CrazyPaul said:
Yes, I have one 23 yrs old son and one 18 yrs old daughter. Those things they say are customary which is fine.

Abortion don't kill babies. It aborts fetuses within 4-5 months. That's why it's legal.
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Not just customary but they believe, correctly, that it is a baby they're carrying.

Oh, abortion kill babies alright. Babies are human beings with a beating heart, brain, fingers and toes. Not much different being in a womb.
 
CrazyPaul said:
Those things they say are customary which is fine.

Yes, I have one 23 yrs old son and one 18 yrs old daughter.

Abortion don't kill babies. It aborts fetuses within 4-5 months. That's why it's legal.
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A heartbeat stops......therefore killing
 
kokonut said:
Not just customary but they believe, correctly, that it is a baby they're carrying.

Oh, abortion kill babies alright. Babies are human beings with a beating heart, brain, fingers and toes. Not much different being in a womb.
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And the feel pain...
 
Jiro said:
I'm sorry you feel that way although medical community and Supreme Court disagree.
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The medical community disagrees that a unborn child can not feel pain!
That is a new one to me and I don't think so.
 
rolling7 said:
The medical community disagrees that a unborn child can not feel pain!
That is a new one to me and I don't think so.
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incorrect. unborn child? that sounds like third trimester.... which is illegal to have an abortion.
 
rolling7 said:
We will see if these bills pass. If so, they are going to make a lot of people (pro-abortion) upset.
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nah don't need to. 40+ years and counting. so yea not happening anytime soon.
 
Jiro said:
incorrect. unborn child? that sounds like third trimester.... which is illegal to have an abortion.
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You just made my point for me:ty:
Call this "fetus" or "unborn child" or _____ but this_____ has a beating heart and can feel pain after that heart starts beating. Which ____
is doing when it is aborted at the legal limit of abortion.
 
Jiro said:
I'm sorry you feel that way although medical community and Supreme Court disagree.
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They don't disagree that it is killing. They disagree that it is murder. So.....wrong.
 
rolling7 said:
You just made my point for me:ty:
Call this "fetus" or "unborn child" or _____ but this_____ has a beating heart and can feel pain after that heart starts beating. Which ____
is doing when it is aborted at the legal limit of abortion.
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depends on what trimester. but FYI - it's illegal to perform an abortion after third trimester.
 
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