Gulf residents outraged by BP CEO's yacht outing

Steinhauer said:
The oil needs to stop leaking .... and needs to be cleaned up.


Who is ultimately in charge of doing that?

BP?

When they f*** it up, who is responsible then?


BTW - BP has been f***ing it up for 3 months now. Not trying to argue or make a political **point** here, but Obama really needs to use his authority right about now.

God forbid, pending anyone cleaning up the oil spill who would "insult" him in a Rolling Stones magazine, Obama might need to move his butt a little quicker and with more purpose.
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but if Obama uses his authority.... you'd accuse him of being a socialist or dictator for taking over oil company and dictating what it should be doing.
 
Jiro said:
but if Obama uses his authority.... you'd accuse him of being a socialist or dictator for taking over oil company and dictating what it should be doing.
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Can't win. No matter what he does, some will consider it wrong. Even if they were calling for exactly that to be done.:roll:
 
saywhatkid said:
I agree! Way to go! Now if he can influence some of the hot airbags that proliferate the Internet to consider this, the world might be a better place.

It appears that this topic, like so many others, turns into the same tired battle, with the same tired warriors, fighting for the same sides. Any current event topic MUST end up as a Liberal vs Conservative mudfight. With that in mind...

You want to talk numbers? A couple suicidal fishermen compared to the Iraq War casualties? A war started by your personal object of lust, GW Bush; you know, the guy you have framed pictures of all over your house. Here is a recent update from Antiwar.com


American Military Casualties in Iraq:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4408
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03) (the list) 4269
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3947
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3549
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 180
Total Wounded: 31865

They did not find any WMD, but they sure found a way to eliminate a lot of good men, women, and Iraqi citizens. Imagine the impact this has had on so many families that must go on without a father or mother. This was not a case of an environmental mistake being made offshore, but a colossal error in judgment by your hero. I imagine you are quite pleased we went there. Guess what? We are STILL there; no end in sight. Two mentally unstable fishermen vs 4,408 (and counting) soldiers fighting for our freedom to post here. Which matters more?
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Hmm...Obama appears to be carrying and continuing that same "lust," too? Figures.
 
Jiro said:
but if Obama uses his authority.... you'd accuse him of being a socialist or dictator for taking over oil company and dictating what it should be doing.
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If Obama would clean up the oil spill, I will vote for him in 2012.

How's that?
 
kokonut said:
Hmm...Obama appears to be carrying and continuing that same "lust," too? Figures.
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You have missed the boat here. The lust reference it for the right wing crusader I was replying to. I don't care for the job either of these Presidents have done, but if we are talking about a head count, your man wins!

Way to keep beating the anti-Obama drums in this topic about "GULF RESIDENTS OUTRAGED BY BP CEO'S YACHT OUTING" because Obama is the root of all evil, no matter what. If you have a drought, it is Obama's fault. If you have a flood, look to the man in the WH. If some fisherman blows his brains out, blame Obama. If the economy becomes much better, give all credit to the Conservatives. Zzzzzzzzzzzz
 
saywhatkid said:
You have missed the boat here. The lust reference it for the right wing crusader I was replying to. I don't care for the job either of these Presidents have done, but if we are talking about a head count, your man wins!

Way to keep beating the anti-Obama drums in this topic about "GULF RESIDENTS OUTRAGED BY BP CEO'S YACHT OUTING" because Obama is the root of all evil, no matter what. If you have a drought, it is Obama's fault. If you have a flood, look to the man in the WH. If some fisherman blows his brains out, blame Obama. If the economy becomes much better, give all credit to the Conservatives. Zzzzzzzzzzzz
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I saw that. Obama is carrying out that "lust." Compared to liberating France, Poland, etc, the number of soldiers killed were astonishingly high during WWII. Even D-Day in France on the Normandy beaches saw the number of soldiers killed was roughly the same as the number killed in Iraq. The differences was a few days versus several years cummulatively. Kind of put things into perspective here when on average 2 soldiers were killed each day in Iraq. Still, Obama is carrying that same burden as well.
 
kokonut said:
I saw that. Obama is carrying out that "lust." Compared to liberating France, Poland, etc, the number of soldiers killed were astonishingly high during WWII. Even D-Day in France on the Normandy beaches saw the number of soldiers killed was roughly the same as the number killed in Iraq. The differences was a few days versus several years cummulatively. Kind of put things into perspective here when on average 2 soldiers were killed each day in Iraq. Still, Obama is carrying that same burden as well.
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poor bastard's carrying the burden of illegal war from previous Administration
 
saywhatkid said:
You have missed the boat here. The lust reference it for the right wing crusader I was replying to. I don't care for the job either of these Presidents have done, but if we are talking about a head count, your man wins!

Way to keep beating the anti-Obama drums in this topic about "GULF RESIDENTS OUTRAGED BY BP CEO'S YACHT OUTING" because Obama is the root of all evil, no matter what. If you have a drought, it is Obama's fault. If you have a flood, look to the man in the WH. If some fisherman blows his brains out, blame Obama. If the economy becomes much better, give all credit to the Conservatives. Zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Drought? No. That's mother nature doing. Right? Flood? Nope, same thing. Fisherman committing suicide? He did that to himself. Obama is not accountable to no one, nothing. Remember, he said the "bucks stop with me." And that makes him a walking conundrum.
 
kokonut said:
Drought? No. That's mother nature doing. Right? Flood? Nope, same thing. Fisherman committing suicide? He did that to himself. Obama is not accountable to no one, nothing. Remember, he said the "bucks stop with me." And that makes him a walking conundrum.
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Gulf Oil Spill. what is it? mother nature's doing?

Hayward. Should he be held accountable for Deepwater Horizon mess?
 
saywhatkid said:
You have missed the boat here. The lust reference it for the right wing crusader I was replying to. I don't care for the job either of these Presidents have done, but if we are talking about a head count, your man wins!

Way to keep beating the anti-Obama drums in this topic about "GULF RESIDENTS OUTRAGED BY BP CEO'S YACHT OUTING" because Obama is the root of all evil, no matter what. If you have a drought, it is Obama's fault. If you have a flood, look to the man in the WH. If some fisherman blows his brains out, blame Obama. If the economy becomes much better, give all credit to the Conservatives. Zzzzzzzzzzzz
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So .... think you can put up with 8 years of this shit? Get used to it, Bush supporters did.

Unfortunately, Obama is going to be a one term president ;)


Unless he gets his butt in gear and actually does something for the American People.
 
Jiro said:
Gulf Oil Spill. what is it? mother nature's doing?

Hayward. Should he be held accountable for Deepwater Horizon mess?
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Who gave permission?

Which administration gave a pass on the FEDERAL safety inspections?


So all of a sudden Obama changes the way oil rigs are inspected AFTER, why not BEFORE?

Why not change that "corrupt" policy before he gave permission? You know .... inspectors receiving bribes and all that ..... politicians being in bed with oil tycoons?


Nah ..... it wouldn't at all be mere chance and coincidence that the timing of the worst oil spill and ecological disaster ever recorded happened to take place when Obama was trying to push his "green energy".

http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/energy-and-environment/

no link at all .....

http://www.greenchipstocks.com/articles/obama-renewable-energy/301
 
Steinhauer said:
Who gave permission?
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not Obama.

Steinhauer said:
Which administration gave a pass on the FEDERAL safety inspections?
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Obama.

Steinhauer said:
So all of a sudden Obama changes the way oil rigs are inspected AFTER, why not BEFORE?
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Actually, Obama appointed Salazar to make a change in Mineral Management Service because of conflict of interest but unfortunately Salazar didn't follow thru. Now he is. It is unrealistic to make change to every single thing where you "FEEL" it needs change. It is simply not feasible for President to micromanage entire agencies in just 4 years.

Now let's not get silly here, yes? because by your logic -
1. 9/11 happened on Bush's watch... Bush failed America. All of sudden, Bush changed the way our National Security was AFTER it happened? why not before?

2. Osama bin Laden was never found on Bush's watch... Bush failed us. All of sudden, Bush changed the way our war policy was AFTER we failed? why not before?

3. Hurricane Katrina disaster happened on Bush's watch... Bush failed New Orleans. All of sudden, Bush changed the way law is AFTER they confiscated law-abiding citizens' guns? why not before?

4. Bush regretted his military decision against Iraq because of faulty intelligence he was given.... Bush failed us. All of sudden, Bush created Department of Homeland Security AFTER 9/11 happened? why not before?

5. The government could not effectively protect America from terrorists which led to 9/11..... Bush failed us. All of sudden, Bush signed the Patriot Acts AFTER 9/11 happened? why not before?
 
The Hegelian dialectic is the means by which that game plan is implemented — creation of a crisis to condition the minds of the people that an undesired change is necessary, creation of their own controlled opposition to the crisis, finally the introduction of their pre-determined solution.

http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/res_agenda21_17.shtml


http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2009/0...for-law-of-the-sea-ratification-as-89174.html


and of course, a poll:

http://www.newswithviewsstore.com/poll-drilling.html
 
Steinhauer said:
So .... think you can put up with 8 years of this shit? Get used to it, Bush supporters did.

Unfortunately, Obama is going to be a one term president ;)


Unless he gets his butt in gear and actually does something for the American People.
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1. Creation of Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (the end of oil corporations' control)

2. Credit Card Reform (the end of creditors/credit card corporations' control on us)

3. Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act

4. Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act (the end of aloofness and frivolity. it's time we step up the plate and do the civil duty!)

5. Executive Order - Stem Cell Research (the end of Bush's ban)

6. At last! the deadline date for withdrawal of US troops from Iraq & Afghanistan

7. Increased infrastructure spending to repair our bridges, roads, etc.... something that was grossly neglected under Bush Administration. Remember I-35W Mississippi River Bridge collapse and Minneapolis Bridge collapse?

8. Increased salaries and benefits for military personnel

9. and bunch more.....

10. and also bunch more that he failed.....
 
Just in case you didn't know - everyone who is/was responsible for cleaning this mess were conveniently occupied with something else:


While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "Work-Focused" Trip in Grand Canyon - Political Punch


Though his agency was charged with coordinating the federal response to the major oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Department of the Interior chief of staff Tom Strickland was in the Grand Canyon with his wife last week participating in activities that included white-water rafting, ABC News has learned.
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So, you got BP's guy on a yacht. You got the U.S. Federal Government guy on a kayak ...... :hmm:


Hey, the world is never going to be the same again, lets go for a canoe ride !!!
 
Steinhauer said:
The Hegelian dialectic is the means by which that game plan is implemented — creation of a crisis to condition the minds of the people that an undesired change is necessary, creation of their own controlled opposition to the crisis, finally the introduction of their pre-determined solution.
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Oh my! Oh my! Plagiarizing is a :nono:

Your paragraph above is from Darren Weeks -- Operation Gulf Grease

I don't know about you but that website (NewsWithViews.com -- Where Reality Shatters Illusion) should be taken with a very very tiny grain of salt. It reeks of paranoia, disillusion, and dissociation. I mean.... what? Coalition to Govern America | Govern America with Darren Weeks is accusing Bill Gates' billion dollars donation for worldwide vaccination plus Obamacare of a secret plot to kill billion people?

Steinhauer said:
DSD :: Resources - Publications - Core Publications


U.S. Pushes for Law of the Sea Ratification as New Arctic Mapping Project Begins - NYTimes.com


and of course, a poll:

Newswithviews poll
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Interesting but not that interesting. You don't think maybe BP purposely did this to kill off the federally-protected ecosystem so that they can drill more?
 
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