Gitmo Closing

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Can you give me a more specific reference to your question? It's too vague for me to answer. Also, the cases of foreign combatants and American military members are totally different situations, under different laws.

It was about a young man who refused to join the army that he did not believe the Iraq started it. His parents fought to get a lawyer to get their son back home from GITMO. I don't remember what happen to his son now.

It was probably on 20/20 news. There is a lot of junk information that are buried on the Google, and I don't feel like to go thru the spider-web lists of the old news. It is a beautiful day today. I would rather to do something instead of spending my time on the computer.
 
Thanks for catching a few of closed facilities Reba. I had no idea, seemed safe enough to believe the link since what harm could come out from some addresses, and took the risk of posting a Wiki link.

Back about the prisoners. It seems that a lot of us are very contradicted and confused in our opinions. See this:

We want more jails to hold for all the people who perform acts of misconduct.
But we fail to rationalize that creating more jails leads to public insecurity.

We want maximum detention for inmates and let them think about the penalties they've done in life.
What about killing them? Why are some of us against the death sentence?
What about innocent charged guilty? We can really contradict our original intentions.

A basic jail cell should consist of brick, mortar, metal bars, a toilet and a sink.
Some prisoners deserve a little better in life. What are they supposed to do, sit there and think all day until they go insane?
Medical Psychiatrist steps in with some findings. Say randomly, "study finds that inmates tend to not realize their mistakes if they are confined to themselves for long periods of time."

Officers are really harsh in jail! You see the footage of them beating on inmates with those batons!?
He deserved that. That's what he got for going to jail.

This list could go on.. and I've yet to observe much of this being taken seriously in the American public. Only the extremists on both sides have gotten their views solid. It's either maximum penalty for them or maximum freedom.
The rest of us shouldn't be so far as to incline towards one side for one specific inmate, and sway to another side for a statement for another person.

Like specific examples of people:
If say I went to jail for some reason, let's say account of first degree murder.
There will be a lot of people who see I ought to deserve this and spend my life in jail.
There will be people who know me and said despite what I did, I used to be a honest person with proof to back it up, and this act shouldn't reflect the outcome of my life.
There will be people wanting me in maximum confinement, especially those of immediate relation to the person I murdered.
There will be yet the others to see that group's opinion as too harsh and say I should be given more freedom.


All in all jail's a very flaky concept...
 
Thanks for catching a few of closed facilities Reba. I had no idea, seemed safe enough to believe the link since what harm could come out from some addresses, and took the risk of posting a Wiki link.

Back about the prisoners. It seems that a lot of us are very contradicted and confused in our opinions. See this:

We want more jails to hold for all the people who perform acts of misconduct.
But we fail to rationalize that creating more jails leads to public insecurity.

We want maximum detention for inmates and let them think about the penalties they've done in life.
What about killing them? Why are some of us against the death sentence?
What about innocent charged guilty? We can really contradict our original intentions.

A basic jail cell should consist of brick, mortar, metal bars, a toilet and a sink.
Some prisoners deserve a little better in life. What are they supposed to do, sit there and think all day until they go insane?
Medical Psychiatrist steps in with some findings. Say randomly, "study finds that inmates tend to not realize their mistakes if they are confined to themselves for long periods of time."

Officers are really harsh in jail! You see the footage of them beating on inmates with those batons!?
He deserved that. That's what he got for going to jail.

This list could go on.. and I've yet to observe much of this being taken seriously in the American public. Only the extremists on both sides have gotten their views solid. It's either maximum penalty for them or maximum freedom.
The rest of us shouldn't be so far as to incline towards one side for one specific inmate, and sway to another side for a statement for another person.

Like specific examples of people:
If say I went to jail for some reason, let's say account of first degree murder.
There will be a lot of people who see I ought to deserve this and spend my life in jail.
There will be people who know me and said despite what I did, I used to be a honest person with proof to back it up, and this act shouldn't reflect the outcome of my life.
There will be people wanting me in maximum confinement, especially those of immediate relation to the person I murdered.
There will be yet the others to see that group's opinion as too harsh and say I should be given more freedom.


All in all jail's a very flaky concept...

:hmm:
 
I recalled in the past that any of our lawyers cannot have the access to our U.S. Military for the interview with the American military prisoners. The prisoners who broke the laws such as AWOL or some who refuses to join the military. Federal lawyers can have the access, but the prices are impossible for anyone to pay to bring the prisoners back home. Am I correct?

It was about a young man who refused to join the army that he did not believe the Iraq started it. His parents fought to get a lawyer to get their son back home from GITMO. I don't remember what happen to his son now.

It was probably on 20/20 news. There is a lot of junk information that are buried on the Google, and I don't feel like to go thru the spider-web lists of the old news. It is a beautiful day today. I would rather to do something instead of spending my time on the computer.

You cannot put American soldiers in same category as enemy combatants. American soldiers are subjected to their military laws. Enemy combatants are subjected to Geneva Convention. Terrorists? they are not subjected to Geneva Convention thus they do not have any rights to see a lawyer. why? because they are not afflicted with any nation.
 
that's a good thought-provoking post there, naisho
 
It was about a young man who refused to join the army that he did not believe the Iraq started it. His parents fought to get a lawyer to get their son back home from GITMO. I don't remember what happen to his son now...
That's odd. There is no draft now, so no one is forced to join the Army. Also, if he didn't join the Army, he wouldn't be sent to GITMO. There is something missing from that story.
 
That's odd. There is no draft now, so no one is forced to join the Army. Also, if he didn't join the Army, he wouldn't be sent to GITMO. There is something missing from that story.

I have thought about it before I wrote it on my post.

Were there a law that requires young people to register a military draft? No?


I think that most prisoners at GITMO should be freed because I remember on CBS news, a reporter interviewed a young Afghan who was 14 years old was sent to GITMO for about five years. The military made a mistake because they were told what to do by the government without a question. He is freed and went back to his hometown in Afghanistan.

A small bad group of criminals should be stayed in a Federal prison for a very long time.
 
I think that most prisoners at GITMO should be freed because I remember on CBS news, a reporter interviewed a young Afghan who was 14 years old was sent to GITMO for about five years.

you want to free most prisoners at gitmo? are you serious? that's a recipe for disaster.
 
Why the distinction?

you don't see the difference, dreama? it's obvious. terrorists will stop at *nothing* to kill others for the sake of jihad. criminals at least (some of them anyways) show remorse over the crimes they've committed. i've never seen a terrorist feel bad about the lives they've ended or the chaos they've created, have you?
 
i'd like to know dreama's response to this question myself.

Well, you are the creator of the two words and Dreama asked you for the differences between the two wrds and your response above tells me, I guess, that they are interchangeable.
 
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