General Deaf Audience

[Reba]

the one who issues certification. not monitored but recorded.

I hate to break it to you but the issuer, such as RID or NAD, doesn't "monitor" interpreter performance. They can act on complaints, and they can keep track of CEU's but they have no idea what the terps are doing on a daily basis.

 

[Jiro]

I hate to break it to you but the issuer, such as RID or NAD, doesn't "monitor" interpreter performance. They can act on complaints, and they can keep track of CEU's but they have no idea what the terps are doing on a daily basis.

that's what I'm saying. There's no "monitoring" but there will be record (complaints) in the file. the oversight.

 

[Tousi]

the one who issues certification. not monitored but recorded.

I don't see how that give you a leg-up, legally. Certification in this field is pretty much limited to expertise in sign systems, to interpret in court and things of that nature. IMHO< anyway....unless there's an angle I haven't thought about.

 

[Reba]

...however - when you're certified, you will be monitored and recorded. any complaints filed against a certified person is recorded. A reputable agency or business would most likely not hire anybody with shaky record. ...

Hearing people who hire terps don't check with RID or NAD to find out if a terp has complaints on file. I've never heard of that happening. Most of them don't even know there is such a thing that can be checked. They want to know how much it will cost them, and are you available. Some will ask if the terp is certified, and even fewer will verify the certification. If the deaf consumer specifically requests certification and ASL fluency, then the hearing client is more likely to ask for the terp's qualifications. Other than that, they either don't know or don't care about the difference.

 

[Tousi]

Good post at #16, Reba!

 

[Reba]

I don't see how that give you a leg-up, legally. Certification in this field is pretty much limited to expertise in sign systems, to interpret in court and things of that nature. IMHO< anyway....unless there's an angle I haven't thought about.

Terps get tested two ways. First, the written test for knowledge. Then, the performance test for skills and how to resolve ethical scenarios. So, we do get tested on how to apply interpreter ethics. But knowing the ethics is not a guarantee that one will always follow them in real life.

However, a terp who isn't ethical will be soon found out. Word gets around.

 

[Reba]

Good post at #16, Reba!

 

[Jiro]

I don't see how that give you a leg-up, legally. Certification in this field is pretty much limited to expertise in sign systems, to interpret in court and things of that nature. IMHO< anyway....unless there's an angle I haven't thought about.

well that's why you should be well-informed about such thing and know what kind of certification is there and how good it is. I wouldn't walk in any place and simply ask - "ok so can you do this? how much?" after all..... remember a gaffe that probably cost deaf contestant a title for Ms. France.

know what to ask and what to look for.

 

[Jiro]

Terps get tested two ways. First, the written test for knowledge. Then, the performance test for skills and how to resolve ethical scenarios. So, we do get tested on how to apply interpreter ethics. But knowing the ethics is not a guarantee that one will always follow them in real life.

However, a terp who isn't ethical will be soon found out. Word gets around.

right. but then.... what's the whole point of license/certification program if they cannot be trusted? obviously it's not a guarantee but the chance of one committing unethical practice is lower.

 

[Jiro]

Hearing people who hire terps don't check with RID or NAD to find out if a terp has complaints on file. I've never heard of that happening. Most of them don't even know there is such a thing that can be checked. They want to know how much it will cost them, and are you available. Some will ask if the terp is certified, and even fewer will verify the certification. If the deaf consumer specifically requests certification and ASL fluency, then the hearing client is more likely to ask for the terp's qualifications. Other than that, they either don't know or don't care about the difference.

sad, right? too bad they neglect to hold it to highest standard to deliver quality service for deafies.... like an interpreter for deaf contestant for Ms. France

 

[posts from hell]

Well...

Sorenson is hiring non-certified interpreters, and sometimes fresh outta the door signers. They're knowingly doing this.

They also care only about quantity over quality. They don't give two shits about interpreters, nor their clients.

They have 80% of the market share - which pretty much means 4 in 5 deafies are using Sorenson.

Just letting yall know.

 

[posts from hell]

Just to clarify:

1. All interpreters, whether certified or not, are supposed to keep interpreting assignment information confidential.

2. Certification is not a guarantee that the parties involved will not use information they are exposed to in an unethical manner. This includes anyone who has access to SSN's, credit cards, medical records, financial statements, etc. How many store clerks and restaurant servers handle your charge card? How many receptionists have access to your financial and medical files? How many government bureaucrats have access to your SSN?

3. In most interpreting situations, it's information in the ears, thru the brain, and out the hands, without "remembering" the details.

4. Whether or not certified, if any interpreter is discovered to unlawfully or unethically use information acquired from an interpreting assignment, it must be reported and acted upon. I can't imagine any interpreter being caught doing such things that would be able to continue in the profession.

5. Certification is a wonderful tool for recognizing which interpreters meet specific requirements. However, no one should become too trusting or dependent on that certification by itself. Certification is not the same as a background check or guarantee of integrity.

6. Certified terps aren't necessarily "monitored", especially private practice (freelance) terps. Who would do the monitoring?

1.) If they are not certified, they are more likely to have a small knowledge of the CPC.


Now, you tell me, a huge huge huge huge interpreting agency hiring all sorts of interpreters that are not certified... Would you trust them? Would you do business with them?

I, for one, WILL NOT do business with them. So hence the post.

 

[Mrs Bucket]

Unfortunately Sorenson, the corporation, does not have to abide by the Code of Ethics like the RID interpreters does. It is the interpreters themselves that have to abide by the AVLIC Code of Ethics.

This is where some certified interpreters in the Deaf community make the jump to Sorenson; some feel this is a betrayal whereas some do understand because of the economy.

It goes both ways. This is where I practised safety with personal information when I used Sorenson when it was made available at the time.

 

[posts from hell]

Unfortunately Sorenson, the corporation, does not have to abide by the Code of Ethics like the RID interpreters does. It is the interpreters themselves that have to abide by the AVLIC Code of Ethics.

This is where some certified interpreters in the Deaf community make the jump to Sorenson; some feel this is a betrayal whereas some do understand because of the economy.

It goes both ways. This is where I practised safety with personal information when I used Sorenson when it was made available at the time.

So you're fine with sorenson's business practices?

The reason I am saying this is - I have more than enough certified interpreters getting out of Sorenson as fast as they can. They're telling me quite a few things about Sorenson.

 

[Mrs Bucket]

1.) If they are not certified, they are more likely to have a small knowledge of the CPC.


Now, you tell me, a huge huge huge huge interpreting agency hiring all sorts of interpreters that are not certified... Would you trust them? Would you do business with them?

I, for one, WILL NOT do business with them. So hence the post.

This is where you need to attack the corporation, not the interpreters themselves.

The interpreters are just suffering as much as we all are. They are made scapegoats in this whole thing because they choose to make the jump to Sorenson for reasons they prefer not to divulge.

Certified in other aspects, but not certified in other aspects.. it's a broad generalisation that even I would not make a statement.

Interpreting is a hard job; PFL, please look into their position and they do have a lot to take on. Stance, transliteration, classifiers, facial expressions and so forth.

 

[posts from hell]

This is where you need to attack the corporation, not the interpreters themselves.

The interpreters are just suffering as much as we all are. They are made scapegoats in this whole thing because they choose to make the jump to Sorenson for reasons they prefer not to divulge.

Certified in other aspects, but not certified in other aspects.. it's a broad generalisation that even I would not make a statement.

Interpreting is a hard job; PFL, please look into their position and they do have a lot to take on. Stance, transliteration, classifiers, facial expressions and so forth.

I am attacking the corporation.

I am an interpreter myself, I know their work. I almost got a job in the VRS industry as well.

 

[Mrs Bucket]

So you're fine with sorenson's business practices?

The reason I am saying this is - I have more than enough certified interpreters getting out of Sorenson as fast as they can. They're telling me quite a few things about Sorenson.

Who said I was fine with Sorenson?

Putting words in my mouth based on hearsay from "they" - a few certified interpreters, who should be keeping information confidential in the very first place hence confidentiality.

If it is them the certified interpreters telling you this, I wouldn't take their words with a grain of salt, period.

 

[Mrs Bucket]

I am attacking the corporation.

I am an interpreter myself, I know their work. I almost got a job in the VRS industry as well.

Clarify something for me.

You are attacking the corporation - personally.

You are Deaf or hearing?

How did you NOT get a job in the VRS industry?

 

[posts from hell]

Who said I was fine with Sorenson?

Putting words in my mouth based on hearsay from "they" - a few certified interpreters, who should be keeping information confidential in the very first place hence confidentiality.

If it is them the certified interpreters telling you this, I wouldn't take their words with a grain of salt, period.

Nobody said you were fine with them, I'm just asking you.

So you are telling me that I should doubt my own personal friends that moved from one job to the other and explaining in full detail about how the company worked. And I see the same pattern from other friends as well?

Yeah, I will take their word.

 

[posts from hell]

Clarify something for me.

You are attacking the corporation - personally.

You are Deaf or hearing?

How did you NOT get a job in the VRS industry?

I am Deaf.

I was one of the final two in the interview process, and the other candidate for the job had prior experience from another VRS company.