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Jim Crow Laws and chain gangs I did know about but Dixiecrats is a new one. Is it legal to force prisoners to work against their will? It was my understanding they have the right to choose where they want to work. So, if they don't want to work in the fields, they have to work somewhere else.
 
DeafCaroline said:
Jim Crow Laws and chain gangs I did know about but Dixiecrats is a new one. Is it legal to force prisoners to work against their will? It was my understanding they have the right to choose where they want to work. So, if they don't want to work in the fields, they have to work somewhere else.
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Deafcaroline, if they can't do the time don't do the crime.

Here's Puerto Rico's example of using prisoners as pickers.

Coffee articles: Prisoners Help Harvest Puerto Rico's Coffee Beans

I think it's high time to use inmates on an extensive scale and use them as crop pickers if not enough jobs can filled by *legitimate* workers.
 
Inmates are not slaves. However, they should be given the option to work, but forcing them to is slavery.
 
DeafCaroline said:
Jim Crow Laws and chain gangs I did know about but Dixiecrats is a new one. Is it legal to force prisoners to work against their will? It was my understanding they have the right to choose where they want to work. So, if they don't want to work in the fields, they have to work somewhere else.
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It was my understanding that there were times that a judge could sentence a criminal to a certain number of years of "hard labor". This could have been a job clearing trees, irrigation, harvesting, road crews, etc. etc.

There were also other times that a prisoner could volunteer for a job that would be considered "hard labor" to lessen their sentence.

However, the chain gangs have pretty much been non-existent and I often wondered why I don't see them as much as I did years ago. It was the ACLU claiming it to be commercial slavery and the lawsuits they filed.

I think it is pretty simple ... if you don't want to be sentenced to hard labor, do not commit a felony. The choice to commit a felony was the choice to do hard labor.

I can see how this would benefit taxpayers, knowing their money would stay here and that a prisoner is finding out just how much crime pays. Making use of their time in prison to benefit law abiding citizens is a win-win situation. It is just a damn shame the ACLU had to screw everything and everyone over.

I am not saying that there were not abuses during the chain gang era, but the point of it was to benefit taxpayers while reforming hard core criminals.
 
Banjo said:
Inmates are not slaves. However, they should be given the option to work, but forcing them to is slavery.
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Especially forcing them into crop-picking. I cannot believe the idiots who think it is a walk in the park. :roll:
 
Beowulf said:
Especially forcing them into crop-picking. I cannot believe the idiots who think it is a walk in the park. :roll:
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Cotton-picking, anybody? I've seen the hands of people who picked a day worth of cotton. Not pretty.
 
Banjo said:
Cotton-picking, anybody? I've seen the hands of people who picked a day worth of cotton. Not pretty.
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Have you ever heard them sing to hide the pain? Sad.
 
Most of my favourite writers are from the South so I learned alot about how it was in the olden days including what it was like being a cotton/fruit/veggie picker. There used to be books written for young teens about a young girl during the Depression era writing about her life travelling with her family as migrant workers. I remember those books very well. Really brutal life being a migrant worker.
 
Beowulf said:
Especially forcing them into crop-picking. I cannot believe the idiots who think it is a walk in the park. :roll:
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Me and my little sister used to pick wild blackberries every summer in temperatures in 105 and above on some days. These were picked in wild briar patches that were higher than we were tall.

Wild Blackberries

We would walk for about 3 miles to where there were literally hundreds of acres of wild blackberry briar patches. I would carry two 5 gallon buckets and she carried one. We did this almost every day for about three summers - and sold the blackberries to local produce markets as well as gave them to family for different deserts.

We would get scratched, tired, thirsty and carried those buckets all the way home.

If a little girl can do it ..... :hmm:


That briar patch is now a mini mall ....
 
Steinhauer said:
There is also a very good movie depicting how things used to get down in these here parts called "Cool Hand Luke". The road crews and farm laborers from prisons I think is now illegal. I used to see them everywhere when I was growing up.
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We still have the prisoner road crews along I-26 outside of Charleston except they aren't shackled. They wear prisoner uniforms with orange safety vests. They don't have to go to the bathroom in the weeds like Luke did. They carry their own Porta-Potty in a truck with them.
 
Reba said:
We still have the prisoner road crews along I-26 outside of Charleston except they aren't shackled. They wear prisoner uniforms with orange safety vests. They don't have to go to the bathroom in the weeds like Luke did. They carry their own Porta-Potty in a truck with them.
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Ah, Cool Hand Luke. That was a great movie.
 
Reba said:
We still have the prisoner road crews along I-26 outside of Charleston except they aren't shackled. They wear prisoner uniforms with orange safety vests. They don't have to go to the bathroom in the weeds like Luke did. They carry their own Porta-Potty in a truck with them.
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Those kinds of crews used to be a very common sight here. Usually picking up trash in a straight line with 2 or 3 deputies carrying shotguns.
 
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