Forgive and Forget about the Past?

[The*Empress]

would you forgive someone who tried to kill you and left you alone to die after shooting you 4 times?

 

[Tousi]

would you forgive someone who tried to kill you and left you alone to die after shooting you 4 times?

I'll let you know when that happens to me, ok?

 

[Opal]

^Angel^!!! You're absolutely right about that - that's the point Tam was trying to make. I just think it's a shame that AD has become a wrestling ring of some sorts...you know? If it's between two members, it has nothing to do with friendship or one backing another. The other thread didn't have anything to do with what Tam is talking about, it had to do with opinion. If I remember correctly, though, friends manage to disagree on things just as commonly as they agree.

Yes your absoultely right, it is what I am trying to explain, thank you for speaking on my behalf.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

It is not just one thing what this person did it to me in the past. There are more than one thing what this person did and continually backstabbed until today.. I have forgiven her twice then this person is not gonna to receieve my forgiveness again. I feel it s ONE forgiven is enough. However this person who is a mother of the children and a Special Education teacher for the deaf.. Thats tells me something what kind of person she is while she work with d/Deaf chidren that scared me. That is no excuse for someone who acts like evil or nasty childish. Tough luck for this person I dont feel sorry for this person at all even some of you people who have no respect my own freedom of speech with respect. I FOUND IT S TOO MANY CONFLICT ISSUES that gives me the impression and confusion too much.

Other person with this person who is harrassing me all along and suspect that same person who threatened me and say I WILL KILL YOU on the forum. How do u expect me to forgive them?

All I m seeing that I am not allowed to say anything while it s okay for you to do this while you dont give a hoot about all that nasty sexual harrassement and harrassment from this person or anybody else who doesnt have any respect others and their own moral value especially our Deaf school that doesnt have to do with open or closed mind.. IF YOU MIND, What is that supposed to be and what do u expect me to think of this BS going on here? in a real life?

I have not speak to her for many years because this person is not worthwhile to hang around with or talk to because she kept saying my nickname and trying to make me look bad with my own innocent reputation in everywhere on the internet that I saw in my own eyes until now.. she asked for it.

This person does not have any respect for me , my childhood, my daughters son who joined the forums or deafies s childhood that I know that reminds me what people with audist attitude did it to us in our childhood and if you mind. For god s sake my daughter is hearing and had told her off. Guess what people dont give me full support while this and that person did this on purpose. Ahem! what s the heck going on~

Simply that she doesnt like my courage to open many coffins after deafies and I struggled for many years. Truth hurts but I am so happy it comes out the truth for what they did to me and many other deafies who is NOT NOT NOT functionally hearing that people with audist attitude who lies to many innocent parents. or help parents who have been fooled by Dr Professional for the dirty money. What makes you think dr or professional care about you while they are making a big $$$$$$$$ while they cannot respect for who or what we are legally deaf.


I am not blamed on the parent who got screwed up and damaged their child by mistaken. I have someone who come to me after they read my comment. We ended up the conversation together.. I have helped this parent that makes me feel good and knowing he is not alone. I care about his son or anybody s d/Deaf children. NO MORE LIES ABOUT OR CONFORM the child for your sakes

How can I forget people have not changed their attitude or accept our deafness yet? SCOFFS!!

In other hands it s good to tell the truth because hearing ppl with a good attitude and many deafies who doesnt realized what they did to them, dont want to end up like audist attitude people because they want to understand learn from us deafies like me. That helps them to see that we deafies have the right and respect them all the way. You dont want me around so TOUGH LUCK I am gonna be around until I DIE.

I dont think it s obbession at all since you destroy us badly all those years without having ASL. ASL is our Deaf rights that u dont want to hear it.. TOUGH LUCK. It is not for you personally it s for their needs when they are babies. Sighs! Thats Deaf babies rights. I wont let you stop me what I strongly believe in. Thank you!

I dont care what you think of me because I am getting used to it and I do really appreciate for some hearing and deaf orallst came up to me and talked about deaf issues.. I do really enjoy and listen to them.. They learned from me and I learned from them. I KNow who i am and proud of myself a Deaf person and my hands to speak. I am not invisible because oral method only doesnt fit in my life and deafies s life shouldnt be invisible at all

OF COURSE I AM OBESSED ABOUT ASL because I didnt have a normal conversation with my own families or hearing friends or people out there that they dont sign. I am not blamed my family for it however I BLAMED ORAL METHOD ONLY and AUDIST ATTITUDE people who dont give a hoot about us deafies like me. I dont need HA device that you expected me and all deafies to hear everything .. Thats full of it with CI as well.

ASL does everything for both sides and Animals that works so well for everybody to communicate with that is very important. Oral Method destroy our ASL for many many years that it s proven that has been covered up inside the coffins. I am not gonna to let you to hide/ destroy good things for deafies gift. There is a reason for ASL/native sign language in our life.

I have enough of BS here because two faced and dishonest that I am seeing in few people in this topic.. How interesting!

Have a good evening!!!!

Sweetmind

There is only one solution for you. Let it go, and forget about that person. It's the only way you'll have any peace. From the looks of it, this happened years ago, and I'm almost positive that other person has already gone on with her life. Isn't time for you to do the same? The bitterness and anger that you feel towards her will only serve to eat you alive.

 

[Cheri]

Why doesn't anyone ever care about the other members here only what it's being said in another thread?....This should not implying to only about the two members here, It seem people do not care about what others are going thru too in this forum, and yet someone decide to create a thread related to what's happening in another thread but don't look at it from all views, where others members are stuggle and going thru the same sort of thing too here in Alldeaf..

*nods* I noticed that too.

 

[Opal]

Why doesn't anyone ever care about the other members here only what it's being said in another thread?....This should not implying to only about the two members here, It seem people do not care about what others are going thru too in this forum, and yet someone decide to create a thread related to what's happening in another thread but don't look at it from all views, where others members are stuggle and going thru the same sort of thing too here in Alldeaf....

I guess it will always be about their friends no one else....I'm not going to say anymore to this thread cause some peope just don't simple care about others only their friends....All I'm going to say to ALL members is to keep their personal beef out of Alldeaf where it's doesn't belong....

Right, I think the Mods should deleted their history problems posts whereas its don't belongs to AllDeaf members in first place.

 

[Sweetmind]

If there is soemthing tiny silly thing happen. I can forget it but when someone hurts me and did alot of harm in it , no way in hell I would ever forget or forgive someone.

I cant believe to some people in the forum saying forget the past where it s hard and something traumatic happens to d/Deaf children 's childhood after all you dont care. You are kissing their arses while they are controlling you and making money on you as they are rich and have no respect for d/Deaf children and adults. How interesting!


I can understand how people cant forget or cant forgive.. I have gotten the same kind attitude of people who did trying to destroy me, Sweetmind and Chief monitor of Deafchat, is the volunteer worker to make sure to keep it clean and fun chatroom, Deaf school , ASL , Deafchat and Deafnotes forum, MR. Matthew Moore who is Deaf Leader of Deaf Community. Meanwhile we both are trying to serve Hearing and Deaf community to get together and give each other a chance to understand each other better. You dont give a damn that we are trying to make the difference between Hearing and Deaf people in this society. That 's what you turned me off in a big time.


I cant forget what people with audist attitude has done and I would never ever forgive them....They dont admitted their wrongdoing. I wouldnt accept it that they could have thought of it at the first place and wouldnt do it at the first time. No one cant expect if people can or cant forgive or forget. It s all up to them if they wanted to forgive or forget...

I dont forget this kind of behaviors that people are doing it to d/Deaf children and adults. TRUTH must be told that U want me to hush up.. HEck with you people with negative audist attitude.

Thats my intention to STOP being so cruel and self centered people with negative cruel audist attitude.

I will not take any excuses from you people since you are an adult and should take the responsiblity in your own action. So I am taking my action to stop Harrassement / Cruel / Threaten and etc.

I dont find this is really funny at all. I know somebody laughed.. Well that s fine with me because it will comes around and goes around. They asked for it.

I can see some of you have no heart but you are too busy to destroy d/Deaf Children's rights and lies about your own functionally hearing. I have no respect and I dont have to forget it or forgive you because it s repeat misbehaviors of yours and audist attitude are still doing it nowadays that is where u are learning from...

FREEDOM OF SPEECH with RESPONSIBILITY that we adults all should do that. You are making a big mistake to mess with me at first place. You got what you deserve that people need to see the truth. You need to grow up and respect my and d/Deaf people with ASL's own freedom of speech with respect.


Have a nice weekend!
Sweetmind

 

[Opal]

The past is dead, gone and finished. No point in dwelling on it. The future is unborn and full of surprise.

No point in worrying about it. The present is a gift.

 

[Cheri]

The past is dead, gone and finished. No point in dwelling on it. The future is unborn and full of surprise.

No point in worrying about it. The present is a gift.

Really? How come Deaf-freedom talks about Sweetmind too much. Sounds like dwelling onto the past.

 

[Nuty]

I'll let you know when that happens to me, ok?

 

[Sweetmind]

Sorry, I have to agree with this **hearing** guy Harlen Lane completely because I have see it myself a lot. Here is the fact. So Here is the quote from him.

The quote by Harlan Lane, in his book, The Mask of Benevolence, p. 17 is as follows:

"Deaf identity itself is highly valued; deaf people seem to agree that a hearing person can never fully acquire that identity and become a full-fledged member of the deaf community. The hearing person will have missed the experience of growing up deaf, including attending a deaf school, and is likely to have divided allegiances. Speech and thinking like a hearing person are negatively valued in deaf culture. Deaf people who adopt hearing values and look down on other deaf people are regarded as traitors."

Harlen is totally correct and doesnt lie about audist attitude as well. You lied to yourself and think you have the right to destroy Harlen Lane's truth. Blamed Deaf community for nothing.

Thank goodness I have been honest to myself and to many people that I care very much with all my heart all along. I m thankful for who I am and have nothing to be ashamed of what I have tried to make the difference. I dont hate between Deaf and Hearing but I hate Audist attitude people in this society.

Thank you Cheri for your honesty. I appreciated. I dont want to say it because it gives me creepy to think about three forums that destroy our image of our Deaf community and d/Deaf children 's right and true identity.

What a relief!!!!! Truth comes out!

Sweetmind ;-)


"Tell the mothers I said, "Don't try to change your child; you are the adult, you bear the burden of change" - Harlan Lane

 

[Angel]

Right, I think the Mods should deleted their history problems posts whereas its don't belongs to AllDeaf members in first place.

What I personally think is, this thread should be deleted as well too, we do not need to keep bringing this up about these two members here, when we could have press the bad report button or PM one of the moderators or Alex about a post or two that happened in another thread, when I first saw this thread, I knew we don't need anymore problems when we already have some going on for the last couple of days.....It's time for people to start ignoring it and move on, and let the moderators and Alex take care of it themselves....And it's wasn't smart on your part for bringing those posts in this thread when the other thread is already locked.... :-/

 

[Malfoyish]

It is not just one thing what this person did it to me in the past. There are more than one thing what this person did and continually backstabbed until today.. I have forgiven her twice then this person is not gonna to receieve my forgiveness again. I feel it s ONE forgiven is enough. However this person who is a mother of the children and a Special Education teacher for the deaf.. Thats tells me something what kind of person she is while she work with d/Deaf chidren that scared me. That is no excuse for someone who acts like evil or nasty childish. Tough luck for this person I dont feel sorry for this person at all even some of you people who have no respect my own freedom of speech with respect. I FOUND IT S TOO MANY CONFLICT ISSUES that gives me the impression and confusion too much.

Fine, fine, fine. :roll: No one is ordering you to forgive and make nice-nice with the "offender." However, there's a time and a place for everything. Your time for it was six years ago - it's OVER now, Sweetmind. Leave it BE. Yes, you're hurt, and yes, you're EVIDENTLY still angry about it. It doesn't solve anything to continue holding a grudge. As a matter of fact, you have EVERY RIGHT to feel the way you do. I harbor my own hostile feelings towards a select few people that I've had the displeasure of crossing paths with, but you do not see me whining about it in every other post of mine. If I feel the need to solicit a friend's opinion, I'll do it in IM's. I certainly won't make it public. It's just childish.

Other person with this person who is harrassing me all along and suspect that same person who threatened me and say I WILL KILL YOU on the forum. How do u expect me to forgive them?

This is another person - not the same one you're referring to above, correct? If you are being harassed by someone in a forum, especially one who claims that he or she will kill you, the best thing to do is to go to the forum's administrator and discuss the situation privately. Again, no one's asking you to forgive anything - but you SHOULD take action of you in any way feel your life is at risk. Go to the forum administrator and retain any and all proof of this member's threats against you. If the police need to get involved, they will. The forum members have nothing to do with it, so why draw attention to it? If "I will kill you" was said publicly, then it's already been noticed. Why jeopardize the forum's atmosphere by waving around dirty laundry?

All I m seeing that I am not allowed to say anything while it s okay for you to do this while you dont give a hoot about all that nasty sexual harrassement and harrassment from this person or anybody else who doesnt have any respect others and their own moral value especially our Deaf school that doesnt have to do with open or closed mind.. IF YOU MIND, What is that supposed to be and what do u expect me to think of this BS going on here? in a real life?

You're allowed to say something. But do it privately. But yanno what, Sweetmind? I don't even know what the issue is about anymore. Is it about forgiving and forgetting, or is it about open/closed mindedness??? Deaf schools???

I have not speak to her for many years because this person is not worthwhile to hang around with or talk to because she kept saying my nickname and trying to make me look bad with my own innocent reputation in everywhere on the internet that I saw in my own eyes until now.. she asked for it.

I think you make yourself look bad without anyone's help. Look - take my example with a grain of salt, if you want to. You have two people who are obviously at odds with one another. Person A is willing to shrug it off and say, "Well, that was a long time ago...I did hurt Person B, but I'll not discuss it anymore...what's in the past is in the past." Then you have Person B posting childish things on a public message board...you have this person constantly dredging up the past, making it quite evident that a grudge is being held...who looks to be the more mature person, here???

This person does not have any respect for me , my childhood, my daughters son who joined the forums or deafies s childhood that I know that reminds me what people with audist attitude did it to us in our childhood and if you mind. For god s sake my daughter is hearing and had told her off. Guess what people dont give me full support while this and that person did this on purpose. Ahem! what s the heck going on~

Not for nothin', but I don't think you have much respect for this person, either. But that's OKAY. You aren't going to solicit EVERYONE'S respect...it's earned, and people have to truly KNOW you in order to respect you. If you hate this person so much, why do you want this person's respect in the first place?

Simply that she doesnt like my courage to open many coffins after deafies and I struggled for many years. Truth hurts but I am so happy it comes out the truth for what they did to me and many other deafies who is NOT NOT NOT functionally hearing that people with audist attitude who lies to many innocent parents. or help parents who have been fooled by Dr Professional for the dirty money. What makes you think dr or professional care about you while they are making a big $$$$$$$$ while they cannot respect for who or what we are legally deaf.

Lemme ask you a question regarding this "audist attitude" term of yours. Because your childhood wasn't a good one, does this mean that anyone you would refer to as an audist is automatically labeled disrespectful? If she doesn't like what you attempt to preach, then you know what, she has her reasons for it. I'll be honest with you - I don't like your approach, either. Sweetmind, we've all grown up with different expectations - you don't see me bashing you for your choices. In fact, I support them if they're YOUR choices. I have my own, as do the rest of the "audists" around here. Again, this has nothing to do with the thread's topic.

I am not blamed on the parent who got screwed up and damaged their child by mistaken. I have someone who come to me after they read my comment. We ended up the conversation together.. I have helped this parent that makes me feel good and knowing he is not alone. I care about his son or anybody s d/Deaf children. NO MORE LIES ABOUT OR CONFORM the child for your sakes

How can I forget people have not changed their attitude or accept our deafness yet? SCOFFS!!

If you're helpful to someone, then I think that's wonderful. But your idea of damage control is horrifying. Let me just add that anyone who has any say in how a deaf baby or child is raised should be considering ALL options. As far as acceptance goes - well...all ya really gotta ask is - is the deaf person happy??? Some are quite content with how we are, me included. I am sure you're satisfied with your life as well...good for you.

Oh, my GOODNESS. I'm off-topic AGAIN!!!

In other hands it s good to tell the truth because hearing ppl with a good attitude and many deafies who doesnt realized what they did to them, dont want to end up like audist attitude people because they want to understand learn from us deafies like me. That helps them to see that we deafies have the right and respect them all the way. You dont want me around so TOUGH LUCK I am gonna be around until I DIE.

Tough luck indeed. And until you die, you'll maintain the mentality you've displayed here. I truly pity you, Sweetmind...with this type of mindset, you can't possibly be as happy as you claim you are. Why not stop trying to drag all of us down with ya?

I dont think it s obbession at all since you destroy us badly all those years without having ASL. ASL is our Deaf rights that u dont want to hear it.. TOUGH LUCK. It is not for you personally it s for their needs when they are babies. Sighs! Thats Deaf babies rights. I wont let you stop me what I strongly believe in. Thank you!

You're entitled to believe in something, Sweetmind. That's your right. However, deaf babies cannot make a choice for themselves. This is where their parents have to make decisions FOR them. If later on in life, the deaf child would like to modify his or her means of communication and/or perspective, then that's another choice that would need to be respected. In all honesty, my own mother wanted me to speak and I grew up doing so. Then when I got to college, I CHOSE to take ASL as an elective. I LOVED it, okay? Even so, I feel much more comfortable communicating using oral means. It's just the best way for me, and it works for me and for those around me. It's my choice. I have one just like you do, and just like anyone else who's actually reading these posts.

I dont care what you think of me because I am getting used to it and I do really appreciate for some hearing and deaf orallst came up to me and talked about deaf issues.. I do really enjoy and listen to them.. They learned from me and I learned from them. I KNow who i am and proud of myself a Deaf person and my hands to speak. I am not invisible because oral method only doesnt fit in my life and deafies s life shouldnt be invisible at all

Get used to it, then. Getting used to something INCLUDES accepting other people's viewpoints. You're not god's gift to all of those who are "Deaf." You make it quite clear yourself in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR POSTS, that there's a difference between deaf and Deaf. I can only guess as to your reasoning because to me they mean the same thing. Perhaps this is your way of insulting those who don't agree with you, just the same way you throw the term "audist" around. And you're absolutely right, you're not invisible. You have your OWN thoughts and opinion on these matters. But guess what??? Others do as well, and this does not deem the rest of us to harbor an audist attitude or preference. If there's one thing that I've learned about my deaf peers, it's that we ALL have trouble fitting in at one point or another. It doesn't make us/them invisible either. Now my question to you is - if we're just more satisfied with the oral method, does this mean WE'RE the ones with a poor outlook??

OF COURSE I AM OBESSED ABOUT ASL because I didnt have a normal conversation with my own families or hearing friends or people out there that they dont sign. I am not blamed my family for it however I BLAMED ORAL METHOD ONLY and AUDIST ATTITUDE people who dont give a hoot about us deafies like me. I dont need HA device that you expected me and all deafies to hear everything .. Thats full of it with CI as well.

HATE to break it to you, but this is not ALL about you. To imply so is just plain selfish. If those around you didn't choose to learn ASL or to make it easier to communicate with you, then I'm very sorry to hear it. It's something you had to deal with as a child and NO child should ever feel left out. Maybe you should be angry with them instead of at people who play practical jokes. The bottom line is - from all of this, I can see what you're truly and genuinely angry at...and it's not another member.

If you don't need HA's - FINE. Don't friggin' wear them! If you don't want a CI - FINE. don't go under the knife. It's SIMPLE, Sweetmind, it does NOT have to be as complicated as you make it.

ASL does everything for both sides and Animals that works so well for everybody to communicate with that is very important. Oral Method destroy our ASL for many many years that it s proven that has been covered up inside the coffins. I am not gonna to let you to hide/ destroy good things for deafies gift. There is a reason for ASL/native sign language in our life.

Yeah, there's a reason for everything, ASL included. But like I've told you SEVERAL times now, it's still a choice as to whether or not it's used as a primary means of communication. If it's needed, it's a wonderful tool to have. If one knows the language and there's a necessary means to use it, then it proves to be an advantage. Oral language, however, is not destroying anything at all. Just what do you WANT??? Do you want hearing people to communicate only via ASL so that you're accommodated? That's just NOT possible and something tells me that the smallest part of you KNOWS that. What I do think would be nice is for more deaf awareness to be adopted into today's society - but this is not at all to say that ASL is going to overrule oralism. Truth be told we LIVE in an oral society. You aren't of authority to change that, and NONE of us live in a Harry Potter world where you can wave a magic wand and manipulate things into your own favor. You can only hope that more people make use of ALL of their options.

I have enough of BS here

Wow!!!! What a coincidence. So have I!!!

two faced and dishonest that I am seeing in few people in this topic.. How interesting!

I've given you nothing BUT honesty. You'll choose to take it with a grain of salt, I expect. But that's your choice and I'm not going to resort to name-calling if you don't see it my way.

Have a good evening!!!!

Thank you, I will. You do the same. Take a couple of valium and call me in the morning.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Remember I am on nobody's side but open and honest with you what I think and what I feel.

I have seen 2 members's public posts in several threads here but I would not involve this issues between them but Admin. and Moderators, not us members. Admin. or Moderators have good reason to remove their posts if they feel their posts are not necassary.

I think it's not right for anyone to judge someone to forget and move on...

Remember that everyone are different.

I'm afraid yes, any forums doesn't leave Sweetmind alone... *sigh*

Have you see Sweetmind complaint against any forums? No she haven't but people.

I can see that people didn't leave her alone but pasted her posts to other forums and whine about her posts to dirt her image. It's immature... *shake my head* To me, who whine against her is the one who are immature.


Simple ignore if you don't like Sweetmind's posts...

 

[Malfoyish]

Remember I am on nobody's side but open and honest with you what I think and what I feel.

I have seen 2 members's public posts in several threads here but I would not involve this issues between them but Admin. and Moderators, not us members. Admin. or Moderators have good reason to remove their posts if they feel their posts are not necassary.

I think it's not right for anyone to judge someone to forget and move on...

Remember that everyone are different.

I'm afraid yes, any forums doesn't leave Sweetmind alone... *sigh*

Have you see Sweetmind complaint against any forums? No she haven't but people.

I can see that people didn't leave her alone but pasted her posts to other forums and whine about her posts to dirt her image. It's immature... *shake my head* To me, who whine against her is the one who are immature.


Simple ignore if you don't like Sweetmind's posts...

Liebling, I respect your opinion. I really do. Thank you for posting. I mean no offense to you or to anyone in my response.

The problem is - even if you're going to complain about people and not posts, THIS is not the place for it...I mean, think about it - if, say, I had a problem with you, would you rather I put it out in public for people whom it does NOT concern to see, or would you rather I keep it private between you and me, like in IM's or email?

I think we both know the answer to that.

The OTHER problem is - the person Sweetmind has an issue with is a member of this forum, and she's NAMED that person many times. People who have been following the drama know very well who she's referring to. So, my question is this - do you honestly think it's a good idea for Sweetmind to post past happenings here where that member can see it? In my book, that's no better than harassment. Defamation of character, even. It's illegal and there is NO need for further problems.

Tamara's right, people...it's about the present, not the past.

As for Sweetmind's posts - this IS a message board, we are here to agree to disagree. People aren't going to like it, but they'll do so respectfully because that is what the rules state.

 

[Momoftwo]

Malyofish,

Sorry that this is way off the point. Are you deaf? Were you born deaf? Did you learn sign language when you were baby if you were born deaf? I asked you few questions about yourself because your language is very good. Speaking of myself, I was born deaf and my deaf school was not allowed to use sign language. This school was an oral school. I never lived at the school. I was a day student. The school told my parents that my parents were not allowed to learn sign language at all. But then when I was 12 years old, the school realized that they made a mistake and this was when they started to allow the students and teachers to use sign language. So, that's why my language is not like yours.

I'm very impressed with your language skill ifffff you were born deaf. It is SO important for all deaf children to learn sign language and speaking at the same time. Of course, it is very important to practice on your speech skills, too.

Anyway, I just want to know about yourself. I know one deaf man around 28 yrs old and he is on the way to get a Ph.D in doctor. His language is excellent because his parents and siblings talked with him in sign language all the times. That's really huge help!! I'm 41 years old so old times are not like today. Oh well!

Keep it up!

Momoftwo

 

[Eve]

*sighs* I really wasn’t going to comment in this topic, as I feel it will only add fuel to the fire. However, this doesn’t seem to be dying down on it’s own, so I will just say this: I do not expect this individual to forgive or forget. I don’t deserve it. What I did six years ago isn’t forgivable, regardless of how many times I have apologized, and despite the fact that I have not repeated the offense. That being said, I’m done with the matter and have moved on. I only feel sorry for the bitterness that I caused, because it is obvious that this individual is unable to move on and let go and the past haunts her to this day. This must be a very pitiful existence to live with so much hate in one’s heart all the time.

 

[Liza]

Momoftwo, Malfoyish has a real gift for writing. I know, having read some of her works.. WOW. She owns the language. T'care

 

[Tousi]

MomofTwo, whille we are waiting for Malfy, I know she's deaf, has a CI but don't know if she was born deaf.

 

[Malfoyish]

Malyofish,

Sorry that this is way off the point. Are you deaf? Were you born deaf? Did you learn sign language when you were baby if you were born deaf? I asked you few questions about yourself because your language is very good. Speaking of myself, I was born deaf and my deaf school was not allowed to use sign language. This school was an oral school. I never lived at the school. I was a day student. The school told my parents that my parents were not allowed to learn sign language at all. But then when I was 12 years old, the school realized that they made a mistake and this was when they started to allow the students and teachers to use sign language. So, that's why my language is not like yours.

I'm very impressed with your language skill ifffff you were born deaf. It is SO important for all deaf children to learn sign language and speaking at the same time. Of course, it is very important to practice on your speech skills, too.

Anyway, I just want to know about yourself. I know one deaf man around 28 yrs old and he is on the way to get a Ph.D in doctor. His language is excellent because his parents and siblings talked with him in sign language all the times. That's really huge help!! I'm 41 years old so old times are not like today. Oh well!

Keep it up!

Momoftwo

Momoftwo...

It is my pleasure to give you a little bit of my background. All ya need to do is ask.

Yes, I was born with a severe hearing impairment that had progressed into a profound loss by the time I was a few months old. At the time that my deafness was detected I was four months old and I was fitted with my first pair of hearing aids at six months old. I started immediately with speech therapy, and like yours, my upbringing was strictly oral. My parents had it mapped out from the very beginning - I was going to speak and signing would throw off my extensive training. That was their reasoning for it. It does not mean that now that I'm an adult, I agree with their choices. I am all for learning BOTH if it's possible. I am all for a deaf/oral person choosing to learn sign so that they are not in any way ostracized from the deaf community or for other personal reasons. I'm actually very GLAD that deaf schools have changed their rules, too.

Thanks for your compliments, Momoftwo.